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Old Apr 25, 2001 | 12:55 AM
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Formula with drums?????

I've been reading some of the threads in here and I think someone said that all formula's came with 4-wheel disc brk. It's got the hood of a frmla., but(shudder) DRUMS.
Is it maybe not a formula from the factory or what???

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Old Apr 25, 2001 | 07:14 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 88birdformula:
I've been reading some of the threads in here and I think someone said that all formula's came with 4-wheel disc brk. It's got the hood of a frmla., but(shudder) DRUMS.
Is it maybe not a formula from the factory or what???
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...I have seen many documented Formulas with drum brakes in the rear. The 4-wheel disc package in the '88-'89 Formulas was RPO J65, and it was a $179 option in the Formula. It was a required option with the TPI 5.0 and 5.7 liter engines (and it was not available with the TBI engine). It was standard in the GTA those years.

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Old Apr 28, 2001 | 07:48 PM
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it was available on all formulas reguardless of TBI/TPI and was NEVER mandatory.....

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Old Apr 28, 2001 | 11:09 PM
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yep. mine was originaly 305 tpi with drums
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Old May 4, 2001 | 02:40 PM
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My friend had a '91 Formula, 305 TBI, with rear drums.
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Old May 7, 2001 | 08:25 PM
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1990 formal 305 tbi rear drums.
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Old May 8, 2001 | 05:19 PM
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if it means anything I know of 2 1991 Z28's with FACTORY 350/autos and drum brakes out back. The one had 18K on it when bought in 1993 and the other one i currently own.
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Old May 8, 2001 | 08:01 PM
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So a 91 TA with WS6 and rear drums is no big deal? Not that I'm not throwing the drums in the trash first chance I get anyway.
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Old May 8, 2001 | 09:02 PM
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For most years, WS6 didnt mean disc brakes, the disc brakes were usually an option separate from it.
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Old May 9, 2001 | 12:31 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 91DropTopTA:
So a 91 TA with WS6 and rear drums is no big deal? Not that I'm not throwing the drums in the trash first chance I get anyway.</font>

Nope... I have one too.



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Old May 18, 2001 | 08:23 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by madmax:
For most years, WS6 didnt mean disc brakes, the disc brakes were usually an option separate from it.</font>
For 1982 at least, WS6 DOES mean 4-wheel disc brakes, at least on Trans Am; not sure about Camaro, but it's probably the same. Cars that had drums in the rear were marked "WS7".

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Old May 18, 2001 | 09:34 PM
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I bought an '88 Formula new way back when, 305 TBI. It had drum brakes out back.
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Old May 19, 2001 | 02:45 AM
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The deal with the 1991 cars having drum brakes that should have disc brakes is due to either a shortage of disc brakes, or a strike at the disc brake factory, I forget which. It happened sometime in Winter/Spring 1991, so those cars built in that time period got drum brakes instead. My details are sketchy but I hope you get the idea.

Also from what I have heard, all TBI cars have rear drum brakes, regardless of the car they are in.


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Old May 20, 2001 | 09:42 AM
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Kevin is on the right track about the late model 3rd Gen F-bodies. My GTA has rear Aluminum drums where ALL the documentation says it is suppose to have 4 wheel disk brakes STOCK.

When I enquired to GM back in 1991 they informed me they were switching over totally to 10 bolt from 9 bolt and they encountered problems with the new 10 bolt rear disk. So while they were re-engineering the design they used drum brakes. But if you car SHOULD have had disks, they gave you an Aluminum drum instead (though the Aluminum drum was available as an option on other cars).

As the majority of your braking is done by the front disks, you shouldn't fret over having rear drums. You can run 15" wheels with rear drums which is good for tire selection should you want to use slicks at the track. A 15" rear wheel won't fit over a rear disk to my knowledge. A better solution for braking is to go with an aftermarket larger front disk.
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