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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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85 IROC ordered without air conditioning??

Just curious on what you all might think about this. I have a line on a 1985 IROC, all original and a nice car, but which came from the factory without air conditioning. It does have T-tops, just no air. I would assume that this was an option delete by the original buyer. Would this have been done for some reason other than to save some dollars? I can't believe it would have meant much of anything in terms of horsepower difference, and the car also is carbed as opposed to fuel injection. Would this have been done as some sort of performance package, or done because of it? I don't have the RPO codes for the car just yet... And finally, how bad of a hit on value to the car would most see this as? Thoughts anyone??
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Probably done just because.

In Canada I've seen more thirdgens without air conditioning than I have with.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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And finally, how bad of a hit on value to the car would most see this as?
May depend more on where you live and how comfortable you are without air con.

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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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Going without A/C and with carb instead of TPI would have made the car considerably cheaper when it was new. A young buyer without a lot of money might not have been able to afford a better optioned car. A smart dealer would order in some cheaper equipped cars to snag this type of buyer.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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A/C was a option and not standard equipment. You could special order a car without A/C.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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And to think how much people are paying for non ac boxes these days
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Those are rare 1LE air boxes. :-)
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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This one is not anything rare, at least not that I consider. Its supposedly a very nice, all original 1985 IROC, LG4 V8 engine (the base, model, carbed, 155 horse, oh gee wow), with t-tops, all original and not screwed with at all, 42,000 miles, and asking price right off the bat is $8000. Now if it had AC and then something other than an engine so basic, I'd be getting pretty excited, but personally it doesn't do much for me. I think it was just ordered as the cheapest IROC that the buyer could get, or that the dealer could order in. Oh well, guess I'll have to keep searching for the "right" stock third gen...
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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Those were the days you could special order or delete any option you wanted on a car. I would order a new new car with the equipment I wanted and not what soneone thought you needed. Not like the present time where everything is a expensive package.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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Those are rare 1LE air boxes.
Not rare and not specific to the 1LE.

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Not rare and not specific to the 1LE.
i think it was a joke. you know how everyone selling ANYTHING on ebay for a camaro calls it an "IROC POWER WINDOW SWITH, LIMITED EDITION! RARE!!!"
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MWalsh
This one is not anything rare, at least not that I consider. Its supposedly a very nice, all original 1985 IROC, LG4 V8 engine (the base, model, carbed, 155 horse, oh gee wow)...,
The only carb engine you could get with the 85 IROC was the 190 horse L69. Nice combo with the T5. If it has an LG4 in their now then it was swapped in.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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The only carb engine you could get with the 85 IROC was the 190 horse L69. Nice combo with the T5. If it has an LG4 in their now then it was swapped in.
The LG4 was available in IROC's in 85.

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i think it was a joke.
You're right. My bad.

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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LG4 was the Base engine on the 1985 IROC-Z the L69 & LB9 were EXTRA cost options at $680.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Pulled out my 85 Camaro dealer brochure and there it was; LG4 is base. Sorry for the misinformation.
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Re: 85 IROC ordered without air conditioning??

Originally Posted by MWalsh
Just curious on what you all might think about this. I have a line on a 1985 IROC, all original and a nice car, but which came from the factory without air conditioning. It does have T-tops, just no air. I would assume that this was an option delete by the original buyer. Would this have been done for some reason other than to save some dollars? I can't believe it would have meant much of anything in terms of horsepower difference, and the car also is carbed as opposed to fuel injection. Would this have been done as some sort of performance package, or done because of it? I don't have the RPO codes for the car just yet... And finally, how bad of a hit on value to the car would most see this as? Thoughts anyone??
I know it’s been a while but we ordered a blue 1985 without air as we did not plan to drive the car much
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Re: 85 IROC ordered without air conditioning??

85 IROC, carburator, no AC.
L69 engine code car? 5 speed? Depending on codes maybe ni impact on value without AC.

If LG4, 70% normal value.

L69, maybe prior owner was into SCCA or similar.

I wanted that exact combo in 1985-1986!
Less weight etc for track & stoplight🚦heroics.

Per several dealers, they ordered all of their cars with AC. They said it was very hard to sell a new car without AC in North Carolina.

With $1,500 deposit (no refund) and at full MSRP, they were willing to order one without AC, so zero leverage negotiating. Delivery timeframe? Whenever it showed up, at least 12 weeks but up to 12 months

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Old Nov 26, 2021 | 06:49 PM
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Re: 85 IROC ordered without air conditioning??

Originally Posted by Arctic White 91 RS
85 IROC, carburator, no AC.
L69 engine code car? 5 speed? Depending on codes maybe ni impact on value without AC.

If LG4, 70% normal value.

L69, maybe prior owner was into SCCA or similar.

I wanted that exact combo in 1985-1986!
Less weight etc for track & stoplight🚦heroics.

Per several dealers, they ordered all of their cars with AC. They said it was very hard to sell a new car without AC in North Carolina.

With $1,500 deposit (no refund) and at full MSRP, they were willing to order one without AC, so zero leverage negotiating. Delivery timeframe? Whenever it showed up, at least 12 weeks but up to 12 months
I rember we had to put extra money down as dealer told us no one else would buy it. Ours was the tpi motor. Had car about 15 years and sold it with just under 600 miles on it.
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