History / Originality Got a question about 1982-1992 Camaro or Firebird history? Have a question about original parts, options, RPO codes, when something was available, or how to document your car? Those questions, answers, and much more!

I found The partial VIN on the block, Now what does it mean?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 23, 2006 | 03:56 PM
  #1  
BigBoi4Lyph's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
From: Washington
Car: 89 Iroc
Engine: 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt Borg Warner Disk Brake Posi
I found The partial VIN on the block, Now what does it mean?

Its TBF512283 I know its not the origial engine or im pretty sure. But i know the last 6 digits are somthing about the number it was made. But whats the TBF thanks

Last edited by BigBoi4Lyph; Aug 23, 2006 at 03:57 PM. Reason: Mis-type
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2006 | 04:22 PM
  #2  
Randy82WS7's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,812
Likes: 0
From: 62656
Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
Engine: 4.3L Z TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08 7.625"
6 are the sequential production unit numbers

it will match the last six of the vin code of the vehicle it was installed in at the factory

this is numbers match engines to vehicles 101

real basic stuff here'

good luck
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2006 | 04:27 PM
  #3  
Randy82WS7's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,812
Likes: 0
From: 62656
Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
Engine: 4.3L Z TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08 7.625"
1970 TBF 350 conv/fwd cab , mil 255 C - 10 , 20 , 30

1979 TBF 350 convcab , alt , fed L LS9 165 K - 10 , 15 , 20


definitely not origianl engine lol


fwd is forward control, that is a chevy step van, see them running aorund delivering food and parts for companies often


conv is conventional cab, that is a pickup truck, normal cab

it is most likely the nice high nickel and tin content block, harder block, very common from '69-79

a real keeper, congrats
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2006 | 04:43 PM
  #4  
BigBoi4Lyph's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
From: Washington
Car: 89 Iroc
Engine: 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt Borg Warner Disk Brake Posi
Originally Posted by Fast68
1970 TBF 350 conv/fwd cab , mil 255 C - 10 , 20 , 30

1979 TBF 350 convcab , alt , fed L LS9 165 K - 10 , 15 , 20


definitely not origianl engine lol


fwd is forward control, that is a chevy step van, see them running aorund delivering food and parts for companies often


conv is conventional cab, that is a pickup truck, normal cab

it is most likely the nice high nickel and tin content block, harder block, very common from '69-79

a real keeper, congrats
Yea i found that too but the code on the back of the block by the bellhousing says its a 305 from 80-85 and the head code shows its a 1.84"/1.5" valves 53cc chambers for a 305 so im really confused.

Thansk the the replys tho they were quick and what i was lookin for but the numebers arnt all matchin up

code on back of block driver side by bellhousing is 14010201

Head codes are 14022601
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2006 | 05:00 PM
  #5  
Randy82WS7's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,812
Likes: 0
From: 62656
Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
Engine: 4.3L Z TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08 7.625"
thats odd, 80 up block if pass side oil stick

the stamping suffix code is not corect for 80-up



14010201 305 80-85 Pass, Malibu, Monte Carlo, Camaro, Nova

i cant explain the suffix stamping code problem

hmm
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2006 | 09:06 PM
  #6  
84L69TA's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 1,940
Likes: 2
From: Glendale, AZ
Car: 4 Mopars total
Engine: Pentastar power
Transmission: T/F and New Process
Axle/Gears: Three 8 3/4's & one 9 1/4
The 601 heads have 58cc chambers, not 53cc
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2006 | 09:13 PM
  #7  
tom3's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,322
Likes: 100
From: So. Ohio
Car: 88 Camaro
Engine: L98 350
Transmission: 700r4
I suspect the TBF is not an engine suffix code. Part of the VIN? T is a check digit, B is a year code, maybe 1981, and F is the factory where the car was made, maybe Flint? Then the sequence number for the car.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2006 | 09:46 PM
  #8  
Mark_ZZ3's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 1,466
Likes: 71
From: Alberta, Canada
Car: 1989 Camaro-1LE
Engine: TPI(s)
Transmission: 5 speed (MM5, MK6)
Axle/Gears: 3.45, 3.73
I've had a few sets of 601's and they measured 53 cc's when I did them. The other common 305 head with 1.84" intakes were 416's which had 58 cc heads.

Mark.

Originally Posted by 84L69TA
The 601 heads have 58cc chambers, not 53cc
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2006 | 11:31 PM
  #9  
Fast355's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 10,414
Likes: 493
From: Hurst, Texas
Car: 1983 G20 Chevy
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 14 bolt with 3.07 gears
Originally Posted by 84L69TA
The 601 heads have 58cc chambers, not 53cc
WRONG, they are most definatly 53cc. I cc'd mine right after I had them cleaned. 52-53cc in every chamber.

The block casting 201 is a common 305 casting, used in alot of cars, trucks, vans.

The picture is of a worked set of 601s, the chamber is 60 cc after un-shrouding.
Attached Thumbnails I found The partial VIN on the block, Now what does it mean?-fa_3.jpg   I found The partial VIN on the block, Now what does it mean?-11_3.jpg   I found The partial VIN on the block, Now what does it mean?-47_3.jpg  

Last edited by Fast355; Aug 24, 2006 at 12:01 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2006 | 11:58 PM
  #10  
Randy82WS7's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,812
Likes: 0
From: 62656
Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
Engine: 4.3L Z TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08 7.625"
youre right TBF is not the suffix

correct


suffix is ending not beginning i really dont know what the hell i was thinking there,

he told me on yahoo messenger earlier today that UAW is the suffix stamping code

i cant find it though

so i dunno

but we know for sure now that its an 80 to 85 305 anyways, so.,
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2006 | 12:06 AM
  #11  
Fast355's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 10,414
Likes: 493
From: Hurst, Texas
Car: 1983 G20 Chevy
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 14 bolt with 3.07 gears
Originally Posted by Fast68
youre right TBF is not the suffix

correct


suffix is ending not beginning i really dont know what the hell i was thinking there,

he told me on yahoo messenger earlier today that UAW is the suffix stamping code

i cant find it though

so i dunno

but we know for sure now that its an 80 to 85 305 anyways, so.,
TBF512283 is the partial VIN number. Look right above (closer to the head) this number on the pad. You should see another number with the suffix code at the end.

UAW is probably another Van engine from a 1981, I believe

1981 UAW 305 con. cab, a/t, A.I.R. H LE9

What are the rest of the numbers and what other parts are on it.

FWIW, since you are dealing with a similar engine to my stock engine, the original block out of my 1983 G20 had suffix code K1012UCK

1983 UCK 305 conv.cab H LE9

CD4102926 is also cast into it (partial VIN)

14010203- 4 bolt main- 1980-1986 305

3941182- Forged 3.48" stroke crank factory balanced for a 305

X-rod castings

Flattop pistons with 4 valve reliefs.

Large 8" 350 style harmonic balancer

14022601- 53 cc heads, 1.84/1.50" valves

14057056- cast-iron 4 bbl manifold with EGR

17083226- 4 bbl non CCC Q-Jet with electric choke, 1983 Chevy truck/van

Last edited by Fast355; Aug 24, 2006 at 12:31 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2006 | 08:53 AM
  #12  
tom3's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,322
Likes: 100
From: So. Ohio
Car: 88 Camaro
Engine: L98 350
Transmission: 700r4
Whoa, a four bolt main 305 with the big balancer, that's a new one on me. Never know what you'll find in a Chevy engine. Flat top pistons with very small chamber heads. Interesting.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2006 | 10:24 PM
  #13  
1991L98G92's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 355
Likes: 2
From: Central California Coast SM
Car: 91 Z28 24th Anniversary
Engine: L98
Transmission: Auto
Axle/Gears: Posi 3.23
Chevy Engine Codes

This is a site for engine code stamping. The code should have a letter designating engine build plant, 4 numbers designating month and day, and the 3 letter suffix code. Then, if a patial vin was stamped into the block, I've seen them just below this. It will look like this: T0412CKM (CKM being the suffix code). Check again, it may be real faint, or a picture of the block where the partial vin is. Give us all a look. Then when you find the suffix code you can use this site to find year and application.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2006 | 11:06 PM
  #14  
Randy82WS7's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,812
Likes: 0
From: 62656
Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
Engine: 4.3L Z TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08 7.625"
yeah the T is the foundry location digit
the two letters after that digit are supposed to be numbers.,

Last edited by Randy82WS7; Aug 26, 2006 at 12:51 AM.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gta90
TPI
40
Sep 15, 2015 04:00 PM
MoJoe
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
4
Sep 15, 2015 12:50 AM
ChaseDale3and8
Mid-West Region
12
Aug 25, 2015 06:34 PM
bjpotter
History / Originality
3
Aug 12, 2015 06:06 PM
antares57
History / Originality
4
Aug 6, 2015 07:47 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:24 PM.