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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Hey okfoz, the stock springs on my car have a number on them, ill try and take a pic of the fronts since i painted the rears.
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Re: Original Decals location.

There is usually a sticker on each of the springs that has an RPO and a part number...
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Here is my 1985 IROC LB9 California emissions lable.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

hi everyone,i have a 84 camaro z28.the hood has black stickers where the louvers go.my question is,will the louvers from a 85 to 92 iroc fit on my hood? is there any differance in size?
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Old May 21, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Originally Posted by mr396
Here is my 1985 IROC LB9 California emissions lable.
On the first picture, where it says "UNJ" on the upper left hand sticker, I think that denotes what prom chip is in the ECM. Does anybody know if thats correct?
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Old May 24, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Originally Posted by okfoz
There is usually a sticker on each of the springs that has an RPO and a part number...
Here is the spring tag on the rear of my 85 IROC LB9 A4. it has NNN and the part number.
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Old May 24, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

thats what mine looked like! to bad i sanded and painted them before i got a pic
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Old May 25, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Originally Posted by jgordon
hi everyone,i have a 84 camaro z28.the hood has black stickers where the louvers go.my question is,will the louvers from a 85 to 92 iroc fit on my hood? is there any differance in size?
i posted this question awhile back ,guess nobody has a answer,i guess i'll have to go to a chevy dealer to get an answer.
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Old May 25, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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Re: Original Decals location.

The 82-84 hood is different than the louvered hoods. You cannot install the louvers on an 84 hood. You need to locate an 85-92 Z28 hood.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Re: Original Decals location.

To add to what scott said.. I want to think that the area on the 82-84 style hood was narrower than the 85-90 style hood... So as Scott stated you would need a different hood for them to work correctly...

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Old May 26, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Originally Posted by scottmoyer
The 82-84 hood is different than the louvered hoods. You cannot install the louvers on an 84 hood. You need to locate an 85-92 Z28 hood.
thanks for the info,I may just keep what i have.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Originally Posted by okfoz
To add to what scott said.. I want to think that the area on the 82-84 style hood was narrower than the 85-90 style hood... So as Scott stated you would need a different hood for them to work correctly...

John
thanks again,i have the car ready to get painted,so i'll just stay with what i have,thanks.
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Originally Posted by Kevin84Z28
On the first picture, where it says "UNJ" on the upper left hand sticker, I think that denotes what prom chip is in the ECM. Does anybody know if thats correct?

Kevin

The UNJ on that label is the "Label Code"
The second line is the "Engine Size"
The third line is the "Exhaust Emission Family"
The fourth line is the "Evaporative Emission Family"

The above is from the 1982 Camaro Service Manual, Fig 6E1-1 "Vehicle Emission Control Information Label"

The ECM prom type is on the ECM label. Below is the ECM from an 82 CFI car, with Engine Code 7.

The ASY in the upper left corner is the prom code in this ECM. I have a photo of the electronics on the inside, but you can barely make out the ASY on the prom due to flash washout. The Prom is the chip in teh top center of the photo.

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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

I have pics of small bird placements and wording placements on a 86 T/A

Rear Bumper
Right sail bird
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Right sail bird
Right fender writing
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Left fender
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Left Sail bird
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Front lettering
Center nose bird
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Re: Original Decals location.

bestracing,
thanks... I will be honest, there is no exact location, the factory had a rough placement for the decals and that was close enough. But what you have given is beneficial. Thanks.

It should also be noted that typically the Trans Am decals on the front and rear bumpers were typically lower without the stripe....

Thanks again.

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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

At least it will get people in the ball park

I have some OEM supension stuff on my 86 that still has the stickers. I just have to remember to get pics of it when I'm under there again to fix up the rear housing this winter. I won't forget....
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Bestracing....Do you still have the measurements of the decal locations for the sail and the nose stickers? I tried to see from your pictures but could not make some out. I just painted my 89 firebird and wanted to redecal it. Thanks for your help!
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Sticker on driver side rear shock of my 1985 IROC with NNN springs.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Originally Posted by mr396
Here is my 1985 IROC LB9 California emissions lable.
I notice the little sticker on my 85 says change spark plug gap to .35. When and why was it changed? Was it changed in all states or just california?
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/atta...n-sticker2.jpg here is a bigger pic. It says The spark plug gap has been changed to 0.035 inches per chevrolet campaign bulletin number 85-c-22
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

I think I found the answere in the Chevrolet Dealer service bulletin # 85-93 section 6. june 1985. High output ignition coil replacement.
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Re: Original Decals location.

Originally Posted by tman89
Bestracing....Do you still have the measurements of the decal locations for the sail and the nose stickers? I tried to see from your pictures but could not make some out. I just painted my 89 firebird and wanted to redecal it. Thanks for your help!
Sorry I haven't checked this out lately but yes I do have the numbers. Once I get home to my computer I'll post them up. The original pictures are huge so I had no problems seeing them but didn't look back at it after resizing them.
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Re: Original Decals location.

Nose is 1 7/8" from hood edge

Sail panel is 3 1/4" from the window edge and ~1 3/8" up from the body line to the line on the bird.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Here are some from 1991 Firehawk #003, 1,24x original miles at the time I took the pictures...
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More...
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and more...
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Re: Original Decals location.

and the last.

I have a TON more however they are of chalk marks, paint marks, all kinds of build marks, especially of the suspension, and aren't really decals so I won't post them here.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

and here are some from my 92 GTA...
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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more...
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more and more...
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Re: Original Decals location.

Still going...
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Re: Original Decals location.

and finally.

These were all taken about 10 years ago when she had 69K miles.
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Re: Original Decals location.

Can anybody tell me the correct decal for the rear bumber on a 89 GTA ? I've gotten different answers.

One answer was the "5.7 tune port injection" medalion in gold located on the drivers side.

Another was "Pontiac GTA" decal in gold located on the passenger side.

Or did they come off the assmbly line with any at all ?

So much aftermarket crap !!!


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What's a bumber?
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 01:19 AM
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Re: Original Decals location.

There was no "5.7 Tuned Port Injection" badge on the GTA. There also was no badges or emblems on the GTA's bumper. It's the Trans AMs that would come with "Trans AM" scripts written on the bumpers, and on the driver doors for the later Third Gen Trans Ams. It's also the Trans AMs that would (at times) advertise engine size on the fender. This wasn't on the GTA.

Pontiac should be embossed in the center of the rear bumper on your 1989. That's all that's on the rear bumper of the GTA.

For 1989, you should have two sail panel badges (one per sail panel):


You should have two GTA emblems on the fender (one per fender):


You should have one, metal, badge on the front bumper in the center:


You should also have one Pontiac, in gold lettering, script on the driver's side headlamp door:


Finally, you should have one emblem, in gold, in the center of the tail lamps :



Thanks to Frankie's GTA Source Page website for the images above.


Originally Posted by djmarch
Can anybody tell me the correct decal for the rear bumber on a 89 GTA ? I've gotten different answers.

One answer was the "5.7 tune port injection" medalion in gold located on the drivers side.

Another was "Pontiac GTA" decal in gold located on the passenger side.

Or did they come off the assmbly line with any at all ?

So much aftermarket crap !!!


Thanks in advance
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Excuse me members for not calling the rear bumper by the correct description.


Thanks for the info and the pics JT...I assumed such, just needed some verification from the board..I come to this site for advice from knowledgeable experts like you all on these cars, and I take that advice seriously..

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Old May 22, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Here's some pics off my stock & original '89 IrocZ convertible (Canadian model) . . .

Trunk caution decal


Trunk lid VIN tag


Trunk lid jacking instructions decal

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Old May 22, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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Left door Canadian weight/prod tag


AC compressor tag


Another AC related decal located on the top of the blower fan box
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Old May 22, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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Side of wiper motor


Front of brake fluid reservoir


Side of air intake box
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Tonneau cover roof latch warning decal


ID/VIN door tags


ASC driver's door decal
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Old May 22, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Door tire loading decal


Under hood near latch VIN decal


Under hood 5.0L TPI emission decal
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Old May 22, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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Car: 1989 IrocZ Convertible
Engine: 305 TPI
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Re: Original Decals location.

Emission routing decal (I believe it is on the under surface of the hood)


PASS-Key theft-deterrent system window decal


Of coarse we can't forget the SPID


I have a lot more but I'll need to locate the pics.
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 09:06 AM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Does anyone have measurements for the door and bumper FORMULA decals and the hood engine call-out ones? Thanks.
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 09:52 AM
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Re: Original Decals location.

If you have original decals, the paper properly locates the decal on the hood and doors.
The door decals are high/low depending on stripe/ no stripe and how the installer felt that day.
F/R bumpers were on the right side (as looking at them) I know on the rear bumper the end of the formula decal ends around about straight down from where the decklid/quarter gap is. I think the front bumper formula decal is about the same with the hood/fender gap.
Sail panel birds are also all over the place.
Front bumper bird has a locating paper backing.

I think the service manual may also have measurements of the correct location.

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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 11:35 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: Original Decals location.

I don't believe there is an exact measurement...

Tony is right about the doors... The non stripe cars seem to be lower, but my Formula 350 Convertible is definitely higher on the door than I prefer. I go by the rule of thirds... It is where they look the best, After I painted mine I took the decals and I taped them to the door... I moved them up.. and down, until they looked right...

I think have measurements written down somewhere, but I might not be able to find my book.

The front and rear bumpers, is true to what Tony said...

The front bird should be in the center of the facia

Edit 2:
IIRC The sail panel birds are something like 2.75 behind the window highlight line to the wing, and 2.75" above the quarter highlight line roll to the tail feathers

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