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Re: Original Decals location.

Originally Posted by CPC Norwood View Post
Trying to determine the correct color for the paper tag attached to the rear coil springs for 1987 this would be spring NNL. I think it was originally White or Beige??

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Originally Posted by scottmoyer View Post
They were white.
If I had to name the color, I'd call it yellow.
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Old 12-13-2016, 01:54 PM
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Re: Original Decals location.

Agreed. It's hard to get the exact color. Bright white is not the correct color, but more of a yellowish white is what mine look like now. Not sure if that's just aged, or if that's the actual color. Kind of like the tag found on the brake fluid reservoir shown above. Or like the master cylinder tag that was pictured in another thread.


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Re: Original Decals location.

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How about the "Customer Satisfaction System Certification"? . . . Or the green dot?



Any advice on what to use to "re-apply" the loose corner of my door jamb decal above?
As for the Green Dot.....It was probably a dot assigned to a team at the servicing Dealer. Our Bronco when new was assigned a Blue Dot...for the blue team.
Maybe...IDK
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Re: Original Decals location.

I have the reproduction for the rear springs ready.

For any one who is interested the NL is size 49 font in gill sands MT condensed. The 10018091 is size 15 font (bold) impact.

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Re: Original Decals location.

Nice! But the color is wrong.

Go on Ebay and search for NOS springs. Even newer GM cars still use yellow on the tags. I've literally got a pile of used springs out back, three or four sets worth. All the tags are consistently yellow.
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Re: Original Decals location.

Thanks...they can be done on any color now. More of an off white? , beige or a pale yellow?. Scott says more of an off white.
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Re: Original Decals location.

Pukey **** Yellow?

These are NOS 4th gen springs, but you get the idea. Do a Google image search for "GM nos coil springs" for more examples.



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Re: Original Decals location.

Here is the problem... Here is the originals still on the spring with no flash applied.

I am not seeing yellow?? Need opinions.. Thanks!
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Re: Original Decals location.

Another... Perhaps a very light yellow?
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One more.
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Re: Original Decals location.

I have a 20k mile set of springs, shocks and struts from a 92 formula 350 at home. Thinking the tags aren't yellow on those but I'll try to dig them out tonight for more examples for us to learn from.
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Re: Original Decals location.

I think we are all correct to a extent.
Here are some 92 FORMULA 350 springs
Fronts are yellow, rears are white/dirty off white


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Think this was a 89 formula 350, can barely see the yellow front spring tag and also the light blue swaybar tag

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Re: Original Decals location.

Here are some pics of my driver's side spring, looks like an off white.




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Re: Original Decals location.

Thanks to all! I think my gut was telling me it was a light beige/off white. That's what I am going with then!
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Re: Original Decals location.

One thing to keep in mind is that the rear springs (and their tags) are much more exposed than the fronts. By nature of their position, they catch all the water spray from the front tires. It's not too much of a stretch to imagine why they could be more discolored than the fronts that are considerably more shielded.

I'll have to take a closer look at my mountain of springs next time I'm out there, assuming it ever warms up! It's entirely possible that I've always assumed all four corners are the same color, due in part to dirt, undercoating overspray, fading, etc.
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Re: Original Decals location.

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One thing to keep in mind is that the rear springs (and their tags) are much more exposed than the fronts. By nature of their position, they catch all the water spray from the front tires. It's not too much of a stretch to imagine why they could be more discolored than the fronts that are considerably more shielded.

I'll have to take a closer look at my mountain of springs next time I'm out there, assuming it ever warms up! It's entirely possible that I've always assumed all four corners are the same color, due in part to dirt, undercoating overspray, fading, etc.
Here are some pics of my passenger side and it definitely looks like a faded yellow.







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That's kinda like newspaper that turns yellow from being in the light
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Re: Original Decals location.

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Nice! But the color is wrong.

Go on Ebay and search for NOS springs. Even newer GM cars still use yellow on the tags. I've literally got a pile of used springs out back, three or four sets worth. All the tags are consistently yellow.

I took Drew's advice and looked. I think I found our color.

Definite NOS and likely indicative of the color used: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-2003-PONTIAC-GRAND-PRIX-REAR-SUSPENSION-COIL-SPRING-GENUINE-GM-NOS-H-2-BF/122170933410?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3De21e6b0ecfe8498ba61bd5b25c09d1a7%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D121205736151
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Re: Original Decals location.

Has anyone noted a factory paper tag on the driveshaft of a late third gen?

I know they used tags on the prop shaft in 1993.

Thanks in advance!
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Never seen that, guessing you are talking about steel DS. The aluminum ones have a plastic like tag on them that has all kinds of info.
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Re: Original Decals location.

Yes Steel. The inspection marks, (1987 NOR) Dark green, Coral (pink) and Light green on the U Joints -were very close to what was used on my 1993 (St Therese) and it (93) had a paper date tag on it too.
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better spring pictures
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More pics from your **** collection Tony?
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As for the Green Dot.....It was probably a dot assigned to a team at the servicing Dealer. Our Bronco when new was assigned a Blue Dot...for the blue team.
Maybe...IDK
My Camaro also had this green dot on the back of the rear view mirror and next to the rear key hole . .
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Here's my NNL rear spring tag . . just under 17,000 miles . . . looks creamy white to me . .
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These are my installed reproductions-posting these here for illustrative purposes only. These are not original NOS springs these are restored.
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They look waaaay to nice, better tear the ends of them!
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I tore them off as the manufacturing plant did with a serrated edge!
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Looking for a good door decal measurement for decal placement on 87-90 formula 350. Any Original paint formulas get me a measurement from the bottom of the door to bottom of the decal?
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Re: Original Decals location.

Tony,
That stupid decal can be almost anywhere below the center of the door

Honestly My Formula 350 Convertible is TOO HIGH, and that is how it came from the factory, it is almost in the center of the door top to bottom.

I used to have some measurements I just don't have them on hand.
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I know! On the solid color cars they just seem to be anywhere on the door. However, I have noticed, on the sliver bottom cars with the stripe, they seem to be more accurately located. That's what I'd like to get a measurement from.
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Has anyone reproduced the strut/shock 2 letter code sticky back paper tags yet?
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I did for my TTA ....
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Re: Original Decals location.

I'm sure everyone has their own way of doing these, but it might help each other out if we share what font and maybe even size matches best. It'd also be nice to know what materials people are using, like paper, inkjet vs laser jet vs hiring a pro printer. I'm hesitant to go too far into posting exact templates to be printed since A) they'll be hijacked and end up on Ebay and B) we'll start seeing them stuck all over the wrong cars.

So far I've taken the best photos I can find, then resize them in Photoshop, approximate the colors, then using a new blank layer, I paint a duplicate over the original to get rid of the artifacts, damage, and make for a sharper image. It just takes awhile to get the lettering sized right, then find the right font, etc.

I had a few ready to print on good paper, I backed them up to another drive, and then in typical fashion that drive failed. LOL Maybe I should have shared my work afterall. LOL
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I did a lot of research and people (TTA community) contributed with photos and dimensions needed .... had a guy do them and print (to order) for us ... so we could have these available and people could just go and order what they needed ... we got I would say 90% of everything on a TTA done and some ordered what they needed however at one point GM called the guy and asked for license fees to be paid upfront for future orders so needles to say something done for the hobbyist he could not afford so he stopped doing them ... myself and others spent a lot of time making them available however all that work is gone .... I do have all the information I collected and I even did other decals for my own use and professionally printed and die cut to correct size (so not a regular inkjet printer at home) one of them being the correct battery decal ... then someone bought a couple from me copied and printed them (you can tell as his is much fuzzier being a scan and not crisp design like my original) put them on ebay and sold a lot of them I would say he netted easily $1000 USD on my time and investment.

I'm all for sharing and contributing to the community if its a 2 way street and if people don't take advantage of it .... in the end its a hobby and if everyone do contribute we can get so much more out of it and everyone put their fair share into it.

This is what I would love to see done at some point:
http://fierostuff.com/fiero-stickers...rder-stickers/

But with pretty much anything you can imagine for our 3rd Gens.
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Just a few examples of what we had done .... there's another 20+












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Here are a few prop valve codes I have to add to your collection.


Lost a lot of my original code decal pix in the great hard drive crash of '15.. but I do need shock/strut an spring decal codes for a 92 formula (think all the formulas are the same)
I also need both 9bolt diff code decals. 8EQ(?) and 9EQ
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Re: Original Decals location.

Looking for the FX decal that is on the front of the master cylinder of a 87 GTA. Is anyone pe-poping those?

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Looking for the FX decal that is on the front of the master cylinder of a 87 GTA. Is anyone pe-poping those?
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You (or anyone) happen to have any info about whats on the white decal on the spoke do you? supplier part number decal like on the crosslace wheels maybe?
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You (or anyone) happen to have any info about whats on the white decal on the spoke do you? supplier part number decal like on the crosslace wheels maybe?
About the only thing I can think of is it is a part number or some identifier. Might be simply "Front" or "Rear" too bad the image is not clear enough...

What is really interesting is the white covering on the T-top, not all cars have it, but the white car behind the blue car almost looks like the T-top was painted... Matches the white almost exactly.
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Re: Original Decals location.

The TTops had a protective covering on them when shipped from the supplier to help prevent scratching.

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Old 01-29-2018, 06:51 AM
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Re: Original Decals location.

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The TTops had a protective covering on them when shipped from the supplier to help prevent scratching.
Thanks for the info. Is that a OEM spare?
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Nah, that's prob an Ebay or who knows where I got the pic through the yrs.
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Re: Original Decals location.

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Here are a few prop valve codes I have to add to your collection.


Lost a lot of my original code decal pix in the great hard drive crash of '15.. but I do need shock/strut an spring decal codes for a 92 formula (think all the formulas are the same)
I also need both 9bolt diff code decals. 8EQ(?) and 9EQ

LF on my 91 1LE Z28.

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Re: Original Decals location.

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LF on my 91 1LE Z28.


Any chance you can get a clear scan of that tag? Could use an example to make a repro for my Formula. Still have the LF stamped valve, but the label is long gone.

One of these days I need to sit down and repro all the vacuum line tags, and the tags for the throttle cables, etc. Most of that stuff was removed by me over the years as the paper and glue gave up and they started falling off. No decals look better than shredded decals.
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Think I have a few LFs floating around as well, just need to get to garage a bit more.
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