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1982 Different Iron Duke

Has anyone ever scene a 1982 Camaro Sport Coupe with a red body with a Silver and Gray interior, with the ERS sound system and a power hatch? That has an Iron Duke and the MM4. I just picked up one that is way different from what I have ever seen, no rust either that straight as an arrow. I bought it off the orignal owner for $600. Never seen rain or snow. I'll have pics up in a couple of days, when I pick it up. Just trying to figure out what I want to do throw some ideas out, restoration or resto-mod.
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Nice find for $600. Use a V6 POS for a restomod project. An Iron Duke 4 speed manual has to be a proper restoration because it's so rare. Especially in the condition you describe. Post pics ASAP.
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Restore it to stock!!!! awesome find and deal!!
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Re: 1982 Different Iron Duke

Sounds interesting, awaiting pics.

I would keep it as is, while not rare, certainly uncommon and would draw plenty of people over to it at a show, probably more than any IROC or RS.
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Awaiting pics!
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I would be far more interested in seeing that car at a show than even my own IROC, to be honest. You never see 4 bangers. Keep it stock. Its your car, so no one can stop you...but if modded is what you want I would sell it for a tidy profit and buy another one...

Plus, motor swapping when starting with a V8 car is a million times easier.
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I am picking the car up tomorrow night. I should have the pics up some time tomorrow. I plan on buffing out some of the imperfections hitting it with some touch up paint on the stone chips. The interior has no cracks or rips, but it needs a headliner which I can't find because of the color. It needs a clutch to which is not a big deal. I never really kept these cars stock so I don't really know what to expect for resale. The car that is my avatar was an '82 Iron Duke auto, non-A/C car, it also had the AM radio. Needless to say it was tubbed, full cage, and gutted.

If I do decide to take her apart, here is a list of what would be done. (Old drive train would be put into storage)
-358 (SHP 400 block with Bryant 3.20" stroke honda Rod Journal and Diamond pistons)
-Aluminum Bowtie Top End with Ti valives and retainers
-Tremec 5 speed
-Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft
-Mosier 9" with 3.73
-8pt roll bar and frame ties
-Sparco Evo 3 Seats
-SSR 17" or BBS 17" wheels
-5" Z28 spoiler
-Koni or Penske Shocks and 1 3/4" front sway 1 1/4" Rear
-Brembo or Wilwood Brakes

That about covers it. Haha I am getting out of dirt track racing, this is far cheaper.

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Re: 1982 Different Iron Duke

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Sounds interesting, awaiting pics.

I would keep it as is, while not rare, certainly uncommon and would draw plenty of people over to it at a show, probably more than any IROC or RS.

I agree 100%, I know the car is not fun to drive, but the cool factor is there over the stock V8 cars and it sounds super clean. Sounds like a good deal to me.
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I would imagine that an Iron Duke car like that, would have stolen the show at last week's ThirdGen Fest.
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I would mod the car. there is a reason they are rare, "no one wants to drive one".
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Re: 1982 Different Iron Duke

Originally Posted by jdracer13
I am picking the car up tomorrow night. I should have the pics up some time tomorrow. I plan on buffing out some of the imperfections hitting it with some touch up paint on the stone chips. The interior has no cracks or rips, but it needs a headliner which I can't find because of the color. It needs a clutch to which is not a big deal. I never really kept these cars stock so I don't really know what to expect for resale. The car that is my avatar was an '82 Iron Duke auto, non-A/C car, it also had the AM radio. Needless to say it was tubbed, full cage, and gutted.

If I do decide to take her apart, here is a list of what would be done. (Old drive train would be put into storage):
I would encourage you not to mod it. If you can post pix up and it is in as nice shape as you say, I'm sure someone on here would give you double what you paid, easily. Heck it might even be me. I know Charlie would be interested too. I'd sell the car, pocket more cash and start with something that is not so rare. Just my $.02
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Re: 1982 Different Iron Duke

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I would mod the car. there is a reason they are rare, "no one wants to drive one".
I feel the same way. If it was somebody else's, I'd hope for them to leave it original so that I could appreciate it for it's uniqueness. If it was mine, I'd use it for an LS swap, because unique doesn't interest me if I hate driving it.

That said, since it's not mine, I vote that you keep it original.
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Re: 1982 Different Iron Duke

Originally Posted by jdracer13
, here is a list of what would be done. (Old drive train would be put into storage)
-358 (SHP 400 block with Bryant 3.20" stroke honda Rod Journal and Diamond pistons)
-Aluminum Bowtie Top End with Ti valives and retainers
-Tremec 5 speed
-Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft
-Mosier 9" with 3.73
-8pt roll bar and frame ties
-Sparco Evo 3 Seats
-SSR 17" or BBS 17" wheels
-5" Z28 spoiler
-Koni or Penske Shocks and 1 3/4" front sway 1 1/4" Rear
-Brembo or Wilwood Brakes

That about covers it. Haha I am getting out of dirt track racing, this is far cheaper.
Here's the thing. That sounds like an impressive list of parts that would yield a fun car to drive. It would also be just like every other tarted up Sport Coupe that has been running around getting beat up for the past 20 years. Do that, and the car will never be worth more than $5,000.

With a 4 banger, it will never be worth more than $5,000 either, but it didn't cost you $$ to mod it, and it will be a helluva lot more interesting. I would be far more interested in seeing an Iron Duke car than another ubiquitous carbed third gen someone is beating up...
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Re: 1982 Different Iron Duke

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I feel the same way. If it was somebody else's, I'd hope for them to leave it original so that I could appreciate it for it's uniqueness. If it was mine, I'd use it for an LS swap, because unique doesn't interest me if I hate driving it.

That said, since it's not mine, I vote that you keep it original.
Difficult to argue that, not really sure why I want to. Shame the Super Duty dukes are unobtanium, because a rear-turbo SD would make the car fun, while keeping the look. However, doubling the power would call for upgrades to the suspension and brakes, then you lose the character, the flavor. Look at it like this: How many '67 camaros are there now, which were built with the base 1-barrel 230 I6 engine, 3-speed manual trans, deluxe interior and catchy paint? None. They ALL have V8 swaps. Is anyone crying? Is anyone putting up cash? Get lots of excellent pics, then mod the car.
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This is the only pic that the board is letting me upload it is very annoying (I am going to keep trying). The car needs gone over to check everything, and a bath really bad. It just needs a good rubbing compound to take some of the oxidization out of the paint. It should shine up well. Oh one other thing I forgot to mention is the fact it is a non-tilt column. I plan on doing a turbo Iron Duke as something different maybe twin down the road. It is what it is.

I was so happy to check both of the doors and neither one of them have any sag or play

Does any one know where I can get a headliner for the Silver-gray interior?
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I have the two other rear sport wheels in my garage. and the pics make the car look way worse because it needs a good cleaning. Any who I am excited to finally have the car!!
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Re: 1982 Different Iron Duke

Mate, that car is ultra-cool as it sits. Please don't mod it. You absolutely stole that for $600.

Engine shots? That's what we all want to see.
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Difficult to argue that, not really sure why I want to. Shame the Super Duty dukes are unobtanium, because a rear-turbo SD would make the car fun, while keeping the look. However, doubling the power would call for upgrades to the suspension and brakes, then you lose the character, the flavor. Look at it like this: How many '67 camaros are there now, which were built with the base 1-barrel 230 I6 engine, 3-speed manual trans, deluxe interior and catchy paint? None. They ALL have V8 swaps. Is anyone crying? Is anyone putting up cash? Get lots of excellent pics, then mod the car.
I agree one hundred percent. The power I am looking for is something like 350 hp with a single 40mm turbo or 500 or so with twins. The 2.5L are cheap and easy to mod with them being literally a 302 cut in half. So this should be interesting. The Saginaw should hold up to about 250 if you are easy on it and not pushing it. If you push it you'll be pushing your car home. As many have found out the hard way. The 7.5 may live but I want rear disk and all tubular bars. I'll end putting a mosier ine inch into it if I do go the twin turbo route. It should like a lot of fun, but a lot of long hours.
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Mate, that car is ultra-cool as it sits. Please don't mod it. You absolutely stole that for $600.

Engine shots? That's what we all want to see.
I know I did! Bought it off the original owner. He asked me when I get it done to bring it past his house every now and again to drive it. He always want it to go to some one who had the resources to make it a beautiful car. So he let me have it for $600. Hell you can't find this type of car normally for $2000 normally. It took me 2 1/2 years of checking Craigslist everyday and driving around on days that I was doing nothing to find this condition of car for this price. All I have to say is finally!
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Wow, that's a nice little car. It's a free country, but if it were me, I'd just keep it stock.
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Barf. Great deal for the money (think of all the great condition/rare parts it probably has), but you couldn't pay me to drive it. Still, I'm a stickler for keeping cars original, so I'd have to sell it to someone that was going to do so.
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yah if this were my car and I wanted one to build a hotrod out of. I'd sell this one for double or triple what he paid to the right guy and pocket the cash for a better project car. If I had somewhere to put it I'd already have PM'd him an offer for the car. I may still do so once I see more pix..
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Is the headliner the same color as the door panels? If so, hawks has a headliner kit. Sandstone Gray. Thats where I got mine
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Is the headliner the same color as the door panels? If so, hawks has a headliner kit. Sandstone Gray. Thats where I got mine
Thanks I will check into it. It is the same as the door panels.

I am going to keep the jewel stock. I am going to clean it and put it up on jack stands to go over it to see what exactly I am going to get into on keeping it original. Sorry 1MeanZ the car will not be for sale for a very long time because I told the original owner I would bring it up every summer when it is done. The guy I got the car from bought it new when he was 17. He is now 47. His wife wanted a Vette and she said it had to go because he had not worked on it in years. He was devastated to see it being loaded up.

I have also tested the toand see howit well itdon't would a little bit of the paint and in shines up quite nice.

Question: Leave the Louvers or not, and the Firebird spoiler?

Thanks guys for all the feed back.
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Thanks I will check into it. It is the same as the door panels.

I am going to keep the jewel stock. I am going to clean it and put it up on jack stands to go over it to see what exactly I am going to get into on keeping it original. Sorry 1MeanZ the car will not be for sale for a very long time because I told the original owner I would bring it up every summer when it is done. The guy I got the car from bought it new when he was 17. He is now 47. His wife wanted a Vette and she said it had to go because he had not worked on it in years. He was devastated to see it being loaded up.

I have also tested the toand see howit well itdon't would a little bit of the paint and in shines up quite nice.

Question: Leave the Louvers or not, and the Firebird spoiler?

Thanks guys for all the feed back.
Good to hear that you are saving it. JMHO, I'd get rid of the louvers and Firebird spoiler.
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I apologize for my typos in the previous comment stupid cellphone. Haha

I was definitely not in favor of the louvers or wing at all. I think they ruin the car.

Here are some pics down the sides to show how straight it is. I just wiped part of each side down to show what they looked like and what they are when they are some what clean, and hit if with the buffer and some wax and she will shine. It will need paint in the future, but it does not have to have it. And one is of the 2.5. From what I can tell without grabbing my bore camera I am going to need to pull the motor and do a rebuild. I will probably do some porting to the head or get one of the hi-po aluminum Pontiac heads. They even make race blocks which is pretty cool. I plan on eventually getting around to plumbing in a 40mm Turbo and intercooler. If I have done my calculations right it should be around 275@10 psi. These Iron dukes are actually pretty good candidates for turbos being that their stock compression is 8.2:1, we have actually built many of these motors so that is not a real big deal. Heck with a little machine work and ingenuity you can put a sbc head on it. The stock drive-train should not have an issue as long as it is not hammered on.
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Great save. That interior looks pristine. Is the dash pad cracked at all? It looks in pretty great shape and is the correct '82 style.
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There no cracks in the dash. The carpet is great and the seats have some wear not much. Everything just gone through and cleaned. I am pretty happy with I got.
If anyone wants the louvers just PM me an offer I don want them. They are in pretty good shape.
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Love it! Post more pics when you can.
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Oh, forgot to ask. Does it run?
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wow what a find! ill trade you one of my 3rdgens for it??? i have a few run of the mill rs's or an iroc im willing to trade for that car as it sits before you lay one wrench on it
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I think I am going to keep it for a while. Unless the deal is two sweet. I looked for two and half years for this type of car. Finally found one and bought withing four days of it being listed.

The add read "1982 camaro good body needs work to run $900 obo. "

There are still more out there in garages and barns.

There was 20k manual Iron Dukes made in '82 however I don't believe many made it out of the 80's in one piece....
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Oh, forgot to ask. Does it run?
It does not run yet. It needed a battery it was leaking and the acid started to eat some the battery tray so I yanked the battery and I am going to try to get a battery in the next few days to see if the electronics work. I believe the shifter needs adjusted because it will not move side to side. It goes in and out of reverse all day long and problems. I think one of the pins is loose and its not letting it move properly. I am going to try to look at that when I get home today.
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Here's a link for the headliner kit I got. They call it sand gray
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/ca...sunvisors.aspx

I have t tops, but I would imagine the hardtop headliner is a great piece also. The only I did not like about the kit is the sail panels. The original ones had small clips to help hold them into the plastic the new ones use velcro instead. I had to redo the velcro once, but after that held on fine.
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I apologize for my typos in the previous comment stupid cellphone. Haha

I was definitely not in favor of the louvers or wing at all. I think they ruin the car.

Here are some pics down the sides to show how straight it is. I just wiped part of each side down to show what they looked like and what they are when they are some what clean, and hit if with the buffer and some wax and she will shine. It will need paint in the future, but it does not have to have it. And one is of the 2.5. From what I can tell without grabbing my bore camera I am going to need to pull the motor and do a rebuild. I will probably do some porting to the head or get one of the hi-po aluminum Pontiac heads. They even make race blocks which is pretty cool. I plan on eventually getting around to plumbing in a 40mm Turbo and intercooler. If I have done my calculations right it should be around 275@10 psi. These Iron dukes are actually pretty good candidates for turbos being that their stock compression is 8.2:1, we have actually built many of these motors so that is not a real big deal. Heck with a little machine work and ingenuity you can put a sbc head on it. The stock drive-train should not have an issue as long as it is not hammered on.
That engine is a beast!
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I got her buffed and waxed and she shunes quite well. I also removed the louvers.
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Lookin' good!
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That's one clean turd. I can't really talk though, I clay-barred and waxed my 91 last weekend for the first time (which still doesn't have an engine or transmission in it).
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There no cracks in the dash. The carpet is great and the seats have some wear not much. Everything just gone through and cleaned. I am pretty happy with I got.
If anyone wants the louvers just PM me an offer I don want them. They are in pretty good shape.
PM'd you....
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Don't mod that car. Buy my V8 GTA and do your mods to that.
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Wait? what? of all the thirdgenners to be in my backyard. I am also in Zelienople.

were those factory louvers or aftermarket? I might be interested. Care to show it off at some point? I've never seen a running duke F body.
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The louvers are after market and in good condition. It does need some of the clips because some were not on it when I took it off. The spoilers is also not orginal. I plan to have it running by the end of summer. All the modifications that I will be doing are completely reversable no questions asked all the original parts will be put into clean dry storage.
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Just a little update. I have gotten the shifter issue resolved the bolt had fallen out of the top of the assembly. I also replaced the stereo head with one I had lying around because it was not functioning. I should have the car out and on cruises in a couple of weeks. Any suggestion on what kind of plates I should get?
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M4 DUKE
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Just as an update the I have had the car out and about. It was running good until this afternoon it started smoking pretty bad and then the clutch went. So she is going under the nice for a new heart and lung transplant and maybe some body work too. Here is a pic of it a few days ago.
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i love it, i have an 87 sport coupe myself i wish mine was the iron duke i love those motors, not fast but indestructible and rare as hell in camaros
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Re: 1982 Different Iron Duke

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Has anyone ever scene a 1982 Camaro Sport Coupe with a red body with a Silver and Gray interior, with the ERS sound system and a power hatch? That has an Iron Duke and the MM4. I just picked up one that is way different from what I have ever seen, no rust either that straight as an arrow. I bought it off the orignal owner for $600. Never seen rain or snow. I'll have pics up in a couple of days, when I pick it up. Just trying to figure out what I want to do throw some ideas out, restoration or resto-mod.
I'm a little late in the converstation but I have not see a red body with sliver and gray interior, but I do have a green one that is a factory iron duke car that runs great (yes I rebuild the motor 2 years ago) no rust and it was my wife's high school car. Looks great for its age.
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I'm a little late in the converstation but I have not see a red body with sliver and gray interior, but I do have a green one that is a factory iron duke car that runs great (yes I rebuild the motor 2 years ago) no rust and it was my wife's high school car. Looks great for its age.


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The louvers are free for pick up. PM me for address. I don't want them. I have everything and they are made by Interpart. The car will be getting a total make over, mainly drive line over the next year or two. I was moving it around the yard and it just gave up. The motor is tired (needs rings) and the clutch disk shatered?? So all of it is coming out for a 358 Chevy and a Tremec T56 Magnum or GForce T5. Plus an 8.8" rear with 3.73's. Everything will be reversible, all original parts will be put into storage.
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