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Old 07-23-2012, 10:10 PM
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HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

I have a 1990 Camaro with a 305 V8 rebuilt piece together engine... Just today I found out that I have a 4bbl carb from and 1978 3.8L Turbo Buick... See what I mean..... I need to identify the year and type of intake, heads, block....Its really hard to ask for parts when you dont know what make or model to ask for....I got numbers off of the Carb to find out what it was. I dont know where to look for other information....Could some one offer some help?

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Block--make and model numbers
Heads-- make and model numbers
Intake-- make and model numbers
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

block id numbers should be on a small flat part right behind the water pump, the heads should be right on the front, on the drivers side head iirc, and intake numbers should be on one of the actual tubes of the intake probably start with "GM" as there gm parts if they are anyways not sure on this just where i have seen some so goodluck, admins are a wealth of knowledge and can easily help you, try pm-ing some, i usually do when i need good info sofakingdom five7kid and jamesc all know good stuff really any guys with over 10k posts do
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

Thanks I will go look now... I just came in from looking. The intake, that i can see, has only limited numbers, cylinder numbers and firing order... gone to look at the block and heads.... Thanks for the reply
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

I just came in and found no numbers on block behind water pump. I did find what I believe to be a knock sensor on the passenger side down close to the oil pan...Not oil preasure guage or temp sender. the head was covered by the AC unit. but still could not see any numbers there as well. I did find the timing tab. You have to look between the water pump and the block....
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

I noticed your profile say 305HO.... the guy I bought said this was 305HO... what makes it HO.....?
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

It means he has a L69 305, which was the HO motor.

In 1990 there was no "HO" 305, it was either a TBI motor or TPI motor.
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

so it could be possible I have a HO engine being I dont know the year? The guy I got it from said it was.... but I was also told a lot of things that were not true...how would you identify a L69 engine..... give me some things to look for... It has an AC pump on it and it covers the passenger side head and block. cant see anything there.... Let me guess thats where the numbers are>>>LOL
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

Here is where the casting numbers are:

http://www.thedirtforum.com/gmcastin...rlocations.htm

However, to quote sofakingdom on the usefulness of finding the casting numbers:


Originally Posted by sofakingdom
That stamping code, and the casting number, tell you NOTHING about "the engine" you now have. All they tell you, is what BLOCK you've got.

NOBODY takes a 35-year-old motor in totally original unmolested untouched condition and jsut sticks it into an almost 30-year-old hot-rod car. While certainly "possible", I'd describe the odds of such a thing happening as "quantum mechanical": lots and lots of zeroes to the right of the decimal point before getting to the first non-zero digit.

More likely, that engine has been "rebuilt" somewhere along the line. That means, somebody tore it completely down, put the block in a giant pile of blocks, the rods in a giant pile of rods, the cam in the trash, the heads in a pile of heads, etc.; sent each of those piles of parts through the renewal process appropriate to it, in a mass-production sort of fashion; and at the end, reached into the pile of "renewed" blocks and picked up one, the pile of "renewed" cranks and picked up one, the pile of "renewed" rods and picked up 8, the pile of "renewed" heads and picked up 2, pulled a cam out of a box of probably 24 generic replacement ones, and 8 pistons out of a simialr crate; and assembled it. EVERY SINGLE PIECE could very easily, in fact more likely than not, have come from a different "engine".

I think you can safely de-assume that you're looking at whatever "engine" that "code" refers to, and instead, accept that you only have that BLOCK. You don't have the pistons, cam, heads, or any other parts of it, that actually determine what "engine" it is.

All you know, thus far, is that it's a 4" bore block; meaning, a 302, 327, or 350 (or 383 even), but NOT a 283, 305, 307, or 400 for example.

If you want to know what THE ENGINE is, you need to know what pistons are in it, which you have to VISUALLY INSPECT to get that info if y ou weren't the one that put them there; what cam is in it (see "pistons" for how to tell what it is); what heads are on it, which you can get the head casting number to tell you; and then of course what machine work was, or wasn't, done to it in the process.

None of the rest of those numbers is of the slightest value toward identifying the "engine".

Get that other info and we can tell you more about what you've got.

In the meantime, if all you're trying to do is buy parts for it, very little of any of that matters. You can make up whatever application you want people to think it is just picking from Chevy vehicels (car or truck) with a 350 from about 73 to 79, and tell em you want spark plugs, oil filter, etc. for it; and it won't make any difference to what you get, because they're all pretty much the same.
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

Wow that was a lot to read... but I guess that is true....I would like to what kind of spark plug to buy. Advanced auto told me with out knowing the year they could not sell me the correct plug....And they said without having the correct plug you could burn a hole in the piston... ouch!
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

Does it currently have spark plugs in it? If so, pull one and get the model number off of it. Do a search on google for that manufacturer and part number and find a car they came out of, then just lie to Advanced Auto so they can find the plug in their system.
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

thats good advice, hell bring it in and we can type in the number to cross reference it in the system, ad autozone anyway and that lines bs someone there would know what plug a 305-350 would take ac delcos should be an R-45 for copper iirc
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

I found the block casting numbers!

The first number which was on the front passenger side is....V1010SFD
The second set came from the back drivers side and it says.....GM5.0LO

I believe the block is 1987

I can understand the second set of numbers, its a 5.0 liter. I knew that.
The first set of numbers I have not yet figured out...the previous owner said the engine was HO> maybe this will confirm, who knows at this time

pulled the valve cover and seen roller rockers and that about it. Its dark and I cant read the numbers yet...Stand by till another day....
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

From the link I provided.

V - Flint engine plant
10 - October
10 - 10th day of the month

and from another source

SFD - 1987 305 LB9 F 190 TPI Firbd/Z-28/T/A/B

It's just a 87 305 TPI motor. Honestly, it being a L69 HO motor would mean NOTHING.
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

Thanks for that, thats good to know at least what I have....Now to do something with that v6 buick 4bbl carb that on it... The carb number said it was from a 3.8L turbocharged V6 Buick..... What to do with it? Change all the jets? I dont know.....Thanks again....What CFM carb would be good for this 87 model engine.... I like Quadrajet.
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well a q jet from an lg4 or l69 would be 650 cfm so i'd say 650 are good but you never really need that much cuz unless you race you dont need it, so 600 should be fine for daily driving hell even 550 would do
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

If thats the case, what cfm is the carb I have?
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Re: HELP ON YEAR AND TYPE......

Originally Posted by K4KAK
If thats the case, what cfm is the carb I have?
What is the part number of the carb you have?
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