Hi everybody.
I have a camaro iroc-z convert 86 since 2023. But I don't know if it's real iroc-z. I think that the engine IS not correct because it's a LO3 but in the title says LG4. Maybe anyone swapped the engine in the past.
The VIN starts with code: 1G1FP87H0GL... I thought that the 10th letter said the year but I'm not sure.
Another problem IS that I don't have the RPO sticker.
Please, could help to know more about my camaro, if IS It a real iroc-z, engine, etc...?
Thanks
10th VIN digit is model year. G is 1986
8th VIN digit is engine. H is LG4
L03 is the throttle body fuel injection while the LG4 is a carb. L03 wasn't available in 1986.
It looks like you're out of the country, so it's possible your car was built for export. If you want to PM the full VIN I will see if there is a record.
Where you located? If in Canada you should be able to get all the are info , but if not email vehicleinvoice@gmmediaarchive.com. For like $80 you can get a copy of dealer invoice.
Where you located? If in Canada you should be able to get all the are info , but if not email vehicleinvoice@gmmediaarchive.com. For like $80 you can get a copy of dealer invoice.
Where you located? If in Canada you should be able to get all the are info , but if not email vehicleinvoice@gmmediaarchive.com. For like $80 you can get a copy of dealer invoice.
The factor is if the car was built as an export. Ones built for Canada market (Z49) have records and so do other built-as exports. This car does not appear to have been built as an export, and was simply exported at some point. Therefore, GM Media Archives is the only way to get some of the RPO codes via a copy of the factory invoice.
That does not look like an '86. More likely an '88 or '89. The decals are wrong for '86, which obviously can be changed. But in '86 the washer pump would have been on the wiper motor cover, not the solvent tank. Changing this is a serious undertaking and I doubt someone would do it for the hell of it. Also on an LG4 car the ac compressor is on the left side and the hoses run across the radiator hold down. On hardtops there is a VIN sticker on the inside of the quarter panels that you can get to by removing the trim, not sure on a convertible. I'd start by looking for them and seeing if they jive with the plate under the windshield.
A couple things I question about this car. The VIN denotes an '86, but that serpentine belt would not be correct for an '86. The decal on the door is in the wrong place for an '86, but is correct for 88-90. The ground effects emblem would say Z28 if it was an '86. The IROC-Z emblem was used in 88-90. The wheels are 85-87, but are easily swapped based on damage or preference. The gear shifter is not '86 either. That interior is '88-90 for seat design and door pull. Lastly, the 86 and '87 convertibles had spoiler extensions on the top of the door near the rear. This car is an '88-90 IROC-Z as there wasn't any other model with ground effects except the IROC-Z.
Look for VIN numbers in other places. If the car's an '88, there shoukld be stickers under the hood, under the rear hatch, inside the front fenders viewable from the engine, inside the spare wheel quarter panel and a few other places.
thank you everyone. I will try to find all VIN codes around the car. could you help me to know where are the codes? if the VIN's are on stickers, it's not a good idea, because a few years ago the car was painted in a restoration
They're white stickers, 5/8" (1.59 cm) x 2-7/8" (7.3 cm), with the full VIN on them. Passenger door jamb. Inside of each front fender near the side markers. Inside of each rear quarter panel near the side markers. Underside of the hatch. Underside of the hood. Basically, there's one on the inside or underside of each body panel. And the engine side of the firewall has a partial VIN stamped into it, viewable coming out from behind the right side of the AC box. Hopefully all match the VIN tag under the windshield.
Edit: Another one I forgot about, the partial VIN is stamped into the front of the engine block, where the water pump bolts on, passenger side, on top. It's probably covered with crud, so you'll have to wipe it off. If it matches everything else, then you'll know it's the car's original block.
Physically destroyed, as in, you can see the remains of them, or missing, as if they were never there? The inner fender locations are nearer the battery and smog canister than they are the side markers, as I said earlier. One might be hidden behind the horn.
I don't think those body stickers were used throughout the entire generation. I'm not exactly sure when they began, but I'm thinking 1987 might've been the first year for them. If so, and the car is a 1986, as you suspected, then it wouldn't have received the stickers.
Regardless, you should still be able to verify the VIN on the engine block. It might not be easy to see behind the pulley system, and it could be cruddy there above the water pump.
And there's the firewall location too. Very hard to see, but you might be able to make out some of the last 6 numbers near the right edge of the AC box. You'll need a flashlight.
I agree that this car seems to be an '88 or '89, despite what the VIN says. Too many telltale details that would have had to have been meticulously changed from the '86 to an '88/'89, and that's just very unlikely as there really is no good reason to do so. Other than the wheels, which are '85-'87, everything else about the car is '88-'89.
The VIN is suspect. The fact that the VIN on the cowl doesn't match what the car appears to be and all of the VIN stickers seem to have been removed, my guess is the cowl VIN was swapped. May have to do with getting the car overseas (had to be older than a certain age?), or maybe was a stolen car, swap the VIN and stick it on a boat to Spain? Who knows.
I bet there is a good chance the motor is original and the partial VIN of the original car will be there. From that partial VIN, you could recreate a VIN number for an '88 or '89 and run it through Carfax. Might get a hit.
GM used to tamp the vin# of a vehicle in several different locations. I know my 1972 Buicks GS had about 3 diff locations on the frame and I found them.
Does anyone know if GM did that to the F-body cars?
