Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
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Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
Hello Camaro lovers,
I have searched everywhere for an aftermarket gauge cluster for a 90-92 Camaro, and no luck. So I'm making my own. I will show step by step of what/how I'm doing this.
I am modifying an stock gauge cluster from a 90-92 camaro. I took all the gauges, lights, and circuitry out of the white back plastic part of the cluster.
I traced the black middle plastic part of the cluster onto cardboard. I then cut and trimmed the cutout to fit in the face of the black plastic part. (I will later transfer this the cardboard cutout to a piece of Acrylic Sheet [plastic glass])
Going back to kindergarten! I got dimensions of the Autometer Gauges from Autometer.com and used a compass to draw out the size of the gauges. I took those to layout the gauges in cutout above.
I have yet to order the gauges, but hopefully next week I will have them and get things going. I'll keep post my progress.
Thanks.
I have searched everywhere for an aftermarket gauge cluster for a 90-92 Camaro, and no luck. So I'm making my own. I will show step by step of what/how I'm doing this.
I am modifying an stock gauge cluster from a 90-92 camaro. I took all the gauges, lights, and circuitry out of the white back plastic part of the cluster.
I traced the black middle plastic part of the cluster onto cardboard. I then cut and trimmed the cutout to fit in the face of the black plastic part. (I will later transfer this the cardboard cutout to a piece of Acrylic Sheet [plastic glass])
Going back to kindergarten! I got dimensions of the Autometer Gauges from Autometer.com and used a compass to draw out the size of the gauges. I took those to layout the gauges in cutout above.
I have yet to order the gauges, but hopefully next week I will have them and get things going. I'll keep post my progress.
Thanks.
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
More pics.
The Gauges I'm going with are The Autometer ES. The speedo and tach are 3 3/8'' and the oil, fuel, volt, and temp are 2 1/16''.
With the gauge template cutouts the blue is the hole that would need to be cut into the cluster, and the white is the bezel that goes around gauges.
And with using the stock gauge cluster I can use the clear plastic cover over the gauges.
This is how I am laying out my gauges.
The Gauges I'm going with are The Autometer ES. The speedo and tach are 3 3/8'' and the oil, fuel, volt, and temp are 2 1/16''.
With the gauge template cutouts the blue is the hole that would need to be cut into the cluster, and the white is the bezel that goes around gauges.
And with using the stock gauge cluster I can use the clear plastic cover over the gauges.
This is how I am laying out my gauges.
Last edited by TwoBrakeTony; Sep 20, 2009 at 11:31 PM. Reason: forgot dimensions
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
On the back white plastic piece of the stock cluster, it will need to be cut to fit the depth of the gauges.
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
Something like this?
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...ry-gauges.html
Fitting the gauges in that space is tight,especially the bezels. The high beam indicator and directionals are from dennis kirk. They're for motorcycle dasboards. Not in the pic however are 2 red led's that I added for warning lights. One for low oil pressure and one for high engine temperature.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...ry-gauges.html
Fitting the gauges in that space is tight,especially the bezels. The high beam indicator and directionals are from dennis kirk. They're for motorcycle dasboards. Not in the pic however are 2 red led's that I added for warning lights. One for low oil pressure and one for high engine temperature.
Last edited by remltr; Sep 26, 2009 at 06:40 AM.
Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
Something like this?
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...ry-gauges.html
Fitting the gauges in that space is tight,especially the bezels. The high beam indicator and directionals are from dennis kirk. They're for motorcycle dasboards. Not in the pic however are 2 red led's that I added for warning lights. One for low oil pressure and one for high engine temperature.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...ry-gauges.html
Fitting the gauges in that space is tight,especially the bezels. The high beam indicator and directionals are from dennis kirk. They're for motorcycle dasboards. Not in the pic however are 2 red led's that I added for warning lights. One for low oil pressure and one for high engine temperature.
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
thanks for doing this. i plan to do it with 5 inchers, do you think they'd fit 1 5", 1 2-5/8" and another 5"?
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I'll make some cut outs and post the pics and let you know.
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
You can get instrument clusters from Hawks third gen for the Camaro.
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/gaugepanels.aspx
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/gaugepanels.aspx
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
You cant get anything that fits round gauges for 90-92 Camaros.
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
Hey everyone I just wanted to put some input in on the way I am doing mine. I bought a set of Cyberdyne digital gauges to put in it. What I did is removed the plastic trim around the gauges and put a piece of cardboard on the front and then fiberglassed behind it. I'm currently in the process of triming it down and when I get the chance I will lay a coat of fiberglass filler on it and sand it smooth then cut my wholes out and mount the gauges.
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I'm gonna try the same thing. I just ordered a used cluster to hack apart. Please post more pics and progress reports. Also, can i wire up the gauges to the connector where the cluster plugs in to. Does anyone have a schematic showing what feeds what gauge? Can i just wire up using an electronic speedo to where the stock one gets its feed? What about the fuel gauge? 0-90 ohm?
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
most electric speedos from autometer can be connected to stock, you have to calibrate it by driving a certain known distance. fuel for most GM cars and for our camaro is 0-90 ohm. do you have a wiring diagram in your haynes, chilton, or autozone.com repair manual, i would think they'd have the cluster, if not search the board for the colors. you may want to run new sensors for water temp/oil pressure
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
lookin' good. very simliar to my second attempt at putting aftermarket gauges in this dash.
i hate to burst your bubble on one thing though: the thickness of the bezels on the autometers will not allow you to put the clear plastic back over them. you'll have to run without that part.
i hate to burst your bubble on one thing though: the thickness of the bezels on the autometers will not allow you to put the clear plastic back over them. you'll have to run without that part.
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
Greg from Covans classic dash is now in the process of finally making the custom panel for 90-92 Camaros to fit custom guages like Autometer after I begged him to and told him there was a market for it, call him @ 866-882-3525 he is making it in factory black matte, brushed aluminum, and Carbon Fiber. Spread the word please,
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i'm glad to hear that! i'd love a better looking panel that allows for a more finished look. don't get me wrong, some of these look great, and mine isn't bad either, but the end result still looks home made.
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
Just looked at Covan's Classic Dash he isn't advertising anything yet for a third gen, but the stuff he has already is really expensive. 200 bucks for an undrilled blank panel.
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he just started production, it will be about 6 weeks before they are finished.
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Does he have a website...if so can you post it?
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Lets keep this thread going cause I just started one of my own after not finding this very answer. How to install 5" autometer Tach and Speedo into the stock locations? Hope yours turns out well, and pics pics PICS!!. Here's my thread btw for people interested in the pre 90 cluster:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...u-install.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...u-install.html
Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
Lets keep this thread going cause I just started one of my own after not finding this very answer. How to install 5" autometer Tach and Speedo into the stock locations? Hope yours turns out well, and pics pics PICS!!. Here's my thread btw for people interested in the pre 90 cluster:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...u-install.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...u-install.html
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
no. and the ohm values for the gauges will likely not match your sending units for the factory gauges (except the fuel level gauge, get a 0-90ohm gauge and use the factory wiring).
most folks just run new wires, or better yet, get mechanical gauges with mechanical senders...much more accurate that way.
most folks just run new wires, or better yet, get mechanical gauges with mechanical senders...much more accurate that way.
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no. and the ohm values for the gauges will likely not match your sending units for the factory gauges (except the fuel level gauge, get a 0-90ohm gauge and use the factory wiring).
most folks just run new wires, or better yet, get mechanical gauges with mechanical senders...much more accurate that way.
most folks just run new wires, or better yet, get mechanical gauges with mechanical senders...much more accurate that way.
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does anyone know the status of the panel that greg was making in october? id really like to get one
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I am trying this too. I was thinking about fiberglassing around a stock one and mounting my dakota digital gauges. I am also toying with the idea of selling my digital tach and trying to see if magden would make me something
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Classic Industries has a gauge panel. here is the link. its on page 25.
http://downloads.classicindustries.c...df/C_SEC_D.pdf
http://downloads.classicindustries.c...df/C_SEC_D.pdf
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Classic Industries has a gauge panel. here is the link. its on page 25.
http://downloads.classicindustries.c...df/C_SEC_D.pdf
http://downloads.classicindustries.c...df/C_SEC_D.pdf
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
There are a few that are starting to be created, but the reason people are making their own is cause their isnt one. Im finishing mine as my spring break project. I have to get a dual guage pillar cause i can only fit 4 gauges on it
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covans classic dash is making it now, contact them to see if they are finished with it.
Search Google " Covans Classic Dash"
Search Google " Covans Classic Dash"
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
I did pretty much the same thing, only i didnt hack apart my stock cluster. I took a flat sheet, and made curved side panels and a top to mimic the clear plastic of the stocker and to fill in the gaps. and then just welded tabs for the stock mounting locations.
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here it is boys, thank Greg @ Covans classic dash, spread the word cause they have a lot of $ in R&D building this thing
http://www.classicdash.com/shopping/...-1992/Drilled/
http://www.classicdash.com/shopping/...-1992/Drilled/
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90-92 the only one made
http://www.classicdash.com/shopping/...-1992/Drilled/
http://www.classicdash.com/shopping/...-1992/Drilled/
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
Bringing this one back from the dead. TwoBrakeTony, what does your finished product look like? I'm getting ready to do mine with Autometer Cobalt digital gauges on my 92. I'm concerned that all 6 gauges won't fit in the cluster. Speedo and Tach are 3 3/8" and all the others are 2 1/16".
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
Bringing this one back from the dead. TwoBrakeTony, what does your finished product look like? I'm getting ready to do mine with Autometer Cobalt digital gauges on my 92. I'm concerned that all 6 gauges won't fit in the cluster. Speedo and Tach are 3 3/8" and all the others are 2 1/16".
If you are using theirs, check your sizes. The spedo and tach are 5", not 3-3/8.
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Re: Custom 1990 Dash For Autometer
pwdbychevy, what size are your holes you have cut?





