Camarokid86

hey i was curious if they sell the same thing but in like a bright green? and how much did you pay for those? thanks!
chase.

Timmie

explain pls ?

dont get it

spoolingturbo6

1992 Camaro, T10 - 194 L.E.D.'s Size:: 22mm x 11mm
Qty 10 $5.00 built in resistor.

Got them off Ebay CHEAP from this seller
LINK

I took a screwdriver and pushed out the old lamp from the socket.
Then removed the remaining wire with a small straight screwdriver.
Pointed the leads straight out, and put the L.E.D. into the stock socket.
Next Folded the leads down onto the stock holder, And soldered them into place.
Getting the polarity figured out was fairly simple, ( small lead is the + side )
If you install them backwards, They will not emit light, (Simply remove and turn 90*)
Leave dash loose till you verify all are on, and turn the ones that don't.

Tyson R.

Chezoom

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thats where im at with half my lights out...

Chezoom

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has anyone done it in a 90-92 camaro yet???

Timmie

yups I did it.
they only have 4 light bulps to replace, but its the same principle.
( btw, I already said that I did it in a 1991 camaro.

Chezoom

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pics homes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Timmie

readthe topic again, I cant, afterwards I changed the dash for a nordskog digital dash

regal301

firebird dash takes 9 bulbs for the backlighting

TheFab

Thank you for replying!
I have already looked for myself, though. Also, I did install bright white LEDs. Originally I was planning on doing a nice red color by installing some kind of film but when I looked at the pure white, I got hooked.
I love how the different colors stand out. I mean with the stock orange you can't really tell they're there.
I only got a picture of when I was in the middle of installing them. Some didn't light up on first try, so there are some dark areas.




(also, they appear a lot brighter if seen in person)

regal301

looks good.

the stock bulbs suck.

i swapped mine for red 194's ,cost me $10. i was worried about the light pattern of the led's

Fyrstorm

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Hmm! I went back and I didn't see any interior pics anymore in the thread - maybe I was looking at your garage. Looks almost white and black in there, like a stormtrooper from Star Wars hehe!

Camaros4Life

Are the bulbs from the earlier years the same as the ones for 91-92?

Timmie

@Fyrstorm aa yes, that way.
yups, the details like door handles , shifter , E-brake, and some buttons are still in black

@camaros4life, yes the bulbs are the same

spoolingturbo6

Did You just see my Post Above. YES

Camaros4Life

ok i just got my led lights. they are yellow 194's. Ok so i installed them last night and went out for a drive, i can barely see the gauges. Now i have read to either paint the back white gloss/ metallic or put aluminum foil over the back of the metal faceplate that goes over the gauges.

how do you secure the aluminum foil? or is it easier to just spray paint it? also, my dimmer switch will not dim anything. it will either go all the way on, or completely off. I just replaced it because my old one was doing the same thing. Any ways to fix this?

I would really appreciate help with this because it was very discouraging last night when i turned the lights on and it barely lit the dash up.

thanks
scott

mrr_mobile

I really like the instrument cluster... How did you get that effect?

mrr_mobile

That looks awesome! I wonder what the blue version of that looks like?

BoomBoxx

Swweeet, I F-ing love this thread. Can't wait until I'm ready to do a mod of my own.

C_Sander

Wow I reay started something here... I had no idea this topic would be so popular

aviator84

The stock dimmer switch will not dim led bulbs.

edit: You will need a pulsewith dimmer to dim led bulbs.

TheFab

Not really true.
The bulbs posted by spoolingturbo6 (assuming, they are the same as mine. Mine are from a different brand but they look absolutely identical) do work with the dimmer.
I have them, installed them and the dimmer works just like it does with regular bulbs.

BoomBoxx

What brand did you buy? Where from please?!

itsMikey

just ordered 12 from brightleds.com(orwhatever) for my T/A
will post pics when installed..

TheFab

I bought them in one of their shops: http://www.atu.de/pages/shop/home.html
Unfortunately, I couldn't find them on their website. I'm sure they don't produce the bulbs themselves but they sell it under the ATU brand. I still have the box they came in. I'll see if it says something about who produces the bulbs.
If it doesn't I could ask directly. You should know that they're pretty expensive. It's about 12€ (about $15) for two bulbs. As my Firebird needs 9 bulbs for the gauges I had one to spare which I used to replace the one that lights the license plate. (love that look)

BoomBoxx

Yikes 12 euro? I might have to wait, or just forgo the dimmer idea. I think I'll need 9 too for the gauges as I have the stock 84 dash. Maybe I'll do the blacklight in the dash...oooooh! LOL

Which did you put in the dash, 1 diode or 4 diode leds?

Zepher

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I put LED bulbs in my cluster a few months ago and they all went out on me.
First they started to flash on and off on the oil press side and worked its way towards the speedo, eventually all of them going out or just flashing.

They looked great when they worked, just like TheFabs's car.

I must have gotten a bad batch or they didn't like the heat cycling since I had them in there over the winter and it got pretty cold here.

itsMikey

that sucks what brand were they??

Zepher

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They were cheap ones I got from a vendor on ebay.

KITT1983

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whos the ebay vendor that you used

try Vleds

aviator84

Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't realize some of the bulbs would work with the stock dimmer.

bluegizmo1983

So I just finished this LED Dash light mod in my 91 Camaro, thought I'd share my findings..

Firstly, I am unhappy with the results and will be redoing it again in the future. I used Blue 194 mini wedge bulbs from Superbrightleds.com (WLED-B4-32). The bulbs themselves are great, I just chose the wrong ones I guess.

My gauge cluster (assuming all 90-92 will be the same) only takes 4 bulbs to light all the gauges. I purchased the 30 degree bulbs (angle of light) which was a BAD choice... DEFINITELY go with the 90 degree bulbs if you are doing this mod. With the bulbs I purchased, the needles are really bright, but the digits on the gauges and the rest of the gauge in general and super dim and barely readable at night.

I should also note that I did not modify my cluster in any way. I did not paint or foil the inside of the cluster, it still has the stock gauge overlays, everything is completely stock except the 4 Blue LED bulbs to light the cluster.

DeltaElite121

I guess you could always try painting/foil and see what your results are before doing anything else? Give it a shot and see if that helps.. then again - if you're tearing things apart, maybe you should just try a different bulb AND paint/foil while you've got everything out again.

bluegizmo1983

Yeah I think thats what I'm going to do... I just placed another order with superbrightleds.com... This time I ordered 4 of the twist in sockets for the bulbs so I don't have to mod the original sockets again!

I also ordered 4 of the 5xLED bulbs with a 220 degree angle to see how those work, as well as 4 of the same bulbs I originally order but in 90 degree this time.

When I do the foil/painting, where and what exactly should I be foiling? Does anyone have some pictures? I'm assuming I just foil the entire inside of the cluster behind the gauges, basically where the bulbs will sit and emit light.

BoomBoxx

I am looking to install LEDs in my 84 TA 3rd Gen dash. I am counting 9 that I need (not including turn signals and brights). The back of my gauge housing is white, but kind of dingy so I'll probably paint it white. Also, the back of my bezel has been spray painted orange (I think by the factory) just like under the P N R O D 2 3 indicator. So both of those reflect orange. I tried covering the orange with foil pretty quickly and didn't cover all areas 100%. This really improved the brightness of the gauges at night although they did still have a slight orange glow. I would suggest the spray paint unless you do a really detailed job with the foil. My plan is the fill the gauges with purple (UV blacklight) LEDs to replace the stock. Does anyone have any advice on if this will work well or not? The UV is the dimmest of all the LED colors so I was planning on using all 4X LEDs. I figured that would blast enough light out no matter what color, but wanted to see if anyone had any advice on whether or not it will be enough. Anyone have any experience with these bulbs?!

Update: I am also just realizing that the back of the actual gauges are fluoro orange too! I'm suspecting that these need to be painted or covered as well in order to eliminate the orange completely as orange +purple = ugly brown. Anyone have any words of wisdom on this? Good idea? Bad idea?!

BoomBoxx

Which bulbs did you buy? How many diodes per LED? I doubt 1 will do it especially if you only have 4 sockets in the dash. I am going with 4 diodes per bulb and 9 bulbs so hopefully that will be bright enough! I'd say don't bother with single diod LEDs...

C_Sander

Like i said in post #11, you need to use 90 degrees to get a good spread, and always use 4 or more diodes. One diode is NOT enough. Especially in your case, where you only had 4 sockets.

bluegizmo1983

How do I tell how many diodes there are?? These are the bulbs I purchased http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...%2FWLED-x4.htm

BoomBoxx

If you look at the diagram, you will see the 4 mini LED bulbs (Diodes) sticking out of the top. If those are the ones you bought (WLED-4X) then you bought the ones with 4, not 1.

bluegizmo1983

Hey guys, a few more quick questions...

Do the gauges in a '91 have any sort of light filter that needs to be removed when changing to a colored LED bulb?

Also, I purchased 4 of these twist in sockets, T10S-TW, from superbrightleds.com to install my bulbs this time. Anyone ever used these sockets? Do they fit right into the cluster?

Timmie

those are the ones that are standard in the back of your cluster.
and to be honest I dont get why you bought them.
you just had to take out that socked, take the bulb out of the socket, and put the new led bulb into the socket.

bluegizmo1983

Maybe my bulbs are aftermarket or something then because the sockets that are in my cluster are a little bit different... They do not have the proper contact points for the bulbs.

When I replaced my bulbs the first time, I had to break the contact wires on the original bulbs in the sockets because they were soldiered to the contact points on the sockets, and when I inserted the bulbs from superbrightleds (mini wedge 194 bulbs) the wires on the bulbs did not touch the contacts on the sockets, so I had to bend the wires on the bulbs and then soldier them to the contacts on the socket...

I'm going to take extensive pictures when I swap the bulbs again in a few days. I'll post them when I've finished.

Firebirdstu

I just totally did away with my clocks and went for all led's

KITT1983

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now thats a awesoem dash

KN1GHT

go to mark's custome kits.....$1500 for digital guages for our car.

http://www.markscustomkits.com/Interior-Products.htm

KITT1983

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thanks for the llink mike

Firebirdstu

My set are from www.jupitere.com
theres also www.knight-f2k4.com that also supply 3/4 dash electrics

BoomBoxx

Haha...that's what I paid for the whole car!

itsMikey

Abandon

This is an awesome thread. Replacing all the interior lighting will probably be one of the first interior mods I do.