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last post to u read from the start went i told him i was going to re my interior second i already proof my point u didn't even know 3 point harness existed what does that say about ? that u don't know what ur talking about ur not well inform third i don't have to proof anything to u i think every one who reads the complete thread knows whos rite and whos the one making and a$$ of himself simple has that .
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last post to u read from the start went i told him i was going to re my interior second i already proof my point u didn't even know 3 point harness existed what does that say about ? that u don't know what ur talking about ur not well inform third i don't have to proof anything to u i think every one who reads the complete thread knows whos rite and whos the one making and a$$ of himself simple has that . 

Please learn English & how to spell. Your posts give me headaches trying to read & understand.
Big Deal? I didn't think about that style harness. Whoopie Doo! You can't stop pointing that out, can you?
I'm 110% positive yours are mounted wrong now & you won't post anything to prove it. You'd hate to show that you screwed up.
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no such thing as a 110% lmao its only a 100% lol there u go again with false info did u understand that? simple how can u install something like a 3 point harness if u didn't know they existed ? think about that since u posted a link for simpson with 5 or 6 point show us from a 3 point shut me up . so what crap u post next
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My amusement with you is wearing off. Can't even understand what 110% means. You attack my 11%, yet every single post of yours has bad spelling & grammar? Wow.
If yours IS a 3-pt and IS mounted correctly, you'd post a pic to prove it. But it isn't & you know it.
If yours IS a 3-pt and IS mounted correctly, you'd post a pic to prove it. But it isn't & you know it.
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hmm should i go take a picture of my car rite now uploaded to proof to a not know it all hes wrong ??? ... should i waste my time ? i already proof my point ... so take a guess lol
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Gentleman, gentleman, please, agree to disagree or something. Theres no reason for this non sense, this site is about third gen f body owners who love their cars....we dont come here to argue back and forth whos right and whos wrong and whatever other colorful language you want to use, settle it and move on...
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Personally, I'd be interested to see how the harness is mounted in case I decide to do the same thing.
Stephen - I appreciate you pointing out the safety aspects of the install.
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I've probably have seen them, but didn't care enough to bother to remember them. Member
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u dont care ??? so how u care about someones safety?? kinda backsfires ur hole point lmao in done with this wanabe safety clown .i get mad went clowns talk crap about my car that's all but im good now . like my dad said is better off to let a jack a$$ thinking hes rite
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u dont care ??? so how u care about someones safety?? kinda backsfires ur hole point lmao in done with this wanabe safety clown .i get mad went clowns talk crap about my car that's all but im good now . like my dad said is better off to let a jack a$$ thinking hes rite 

Trying to read your posts is starting to hurt......
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u dont care ??? so how u care about someones safety?? kinda backsfires ur hole point lmao in done with this wanabe safety clown .i get mad went clowns talk crap about my car that's all but im good now . like my dad said is better off to let a jack a$$ thinking hes rite 

I don't care about 3 POINT harnesses, because I like the 5-point ones. Real simple.
At least I can speak clear English!

Your not even making sense with half your words now.
Is that even your car? Or are you a 12 yr old posting pics of something you found on the 'net? Trying to make crap up, instead of just posting a pic?
You certainly coulda cleared this up hours ago, but you didn't, because you can't.
BTW, you do realize that once a Mod sees this thread, most of all this will get Deleted?
All been funny, how you won't show how your belt is mounted. I'm sure it isn't mounted correctly & that is why you won't post a pic. Maybe in a week or two, after you've had time to fix it. "See? It is mounted right!"
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if the delete the post oh well i don't care but answer this who was the one who got in my business plain and simple i dont to prove my self to u or my car who are u? third gen police lmao give a good reason and i will post it
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It is pretty funny that my whole point has been the correct & SAFE way to mount a harness, yet he suddenly wants to twist my words about not caring about that style shoulder belt, into saying that I don't care about people's safety.
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I didn't get into "your business". I merely pointed out that, according to the pic you posted, your belts aren't mounted safely.
If they are? And using your words, so that you'll understand.....Proof it!
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read title Racing seats he ask me about the seats and my harness and u came in saying blah blah my harness is mounted wrong before i even got the change to say it was a 3 point harness whos wrong me? be a man and admit it u where wrong simple
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back bar . lots of up grades from the time this shot was taken. forgive the faded back bar padn. that stuff fades if you look at it wrong
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BTW, it is askED, not ask. Again you can't spell, yet you point out my ONE misspelling! And what is "got the change to say" You change what? You meant CHANCE, didn't you? And you wonder why everybody is having a hard time reading your posts here & getting headaches.
Dude....Post your mount. We all already know its wrong. Now just man up, or in your case 'boy up' & admit it.
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i wont because of u simple . im done wasting my time i bet u don't even own a car lol
ignored list should of done like 30 post ago lol
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Your right. I've been here since the mid-90s (if you knew anything about TGO, you'd know it started before '99, and all the Join dates got reset after a server crash in '99) & don't even own a car, much less a 3rd gen. I just stick around here to cause trouble!

You won't post a pic because I'm right. Yours is mounted wrong & you don't proof coming out, that you mounted yours wrong even though
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okay server cash? and looking at my spelling lol yes i will send u a pick im nice to people who deserve being nice
except for that one guy that i already ignored
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I have a couple of questions about 4th gen seat brackets:
1) Do they weigh less than 3rd gen seat brackets? And if so, is that only for the non-power seats?
2) Do the 4th gen seat brackets sit higher or lower than 3rd gen seat brackets?
1) Do they weigh less than 3rd gen seat brackets? And if so, is that only for the non-power seats?
2) Do the 4th gen seat brackets sit higher or lower than 3rd gen seat brackets?
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1bad will you email me a pic of your mount clean92rs@gmail.com
And he's hoping you don't post it here & show that it isn't mounted correctly or safely. Member
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can yall please stop ranting, i just want to see pics of other peoples seats, if he doesnt have a pic he doesnt have a pic. relax.!!
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I will have to get some pictures. Using the 3rd gen/4th gen brackets I have not found a difference in height, but comparing the 4th gen bracket I used on the drivers side of this car to the solid mounted passenger side(as low as possible) there is not very much difference at all. I will get some updated pictures for you the next time I see the car at the body shop.
And yes, since the 4 holes in the seats are already there I drill 4 new holes in the brackets and bolt hem right up(centering the brackets as close to factory as possible) and bolt them in the car. It's much harder with a 10 point cage in there!
And yes, since the 4 holes in the seats are already there I drill 4 new holes in the brackets and bolt hem right up(centering the brackets as close to factory as possible) and bolt them in the car. It's much harder with a 10 point cage in there!
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He's just not gonna post it publicly to show its incorrect mounting! 
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1bad when you send me the pic of your mounting point can you also send me a picture of how you made your bracket for the seat. thanks
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did he bolt the top of the harnes to the bolt hole for the rear lower seat? that seams like a great place to bolt the one strap too. well in an accident your spine will be crushed.
did you use the bolt hole for the rear lower seat cushion yes or no.
did you use the bolt hole for the rear lower seat cushion yes or no.
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I know I came across "bad" in this thread, but it was out of concern for people's safety. Very simple....Harnesses not mounted correctly can do more harm than good.
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what about if you bolted it to the hump. like lay the back seat down and re enforce it there?
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Recommended specs is with no more than a 10 degree downward angle below the shoulder line. I suppose if your shoulders are low enough, that would work.
http://simpsonraceproducts.com/safet...ing-positions/
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...ml#post3521278
http://simpsonraceproducts.com/safet...ing-positions/
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...ml#post3521278
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again with that ur showing 5 point harness where the 3 point and yes its bolted to the back but not to the back seat and not to the lower of it im just fed up with this safety nut job . teach us how to bolt a 3 point harness correctly i see u posting a 5 point harness shows us the 3 point i don't see 3 point these people want to know i know how but, i want u to post it since u know it all and u are mr safety shows us them 30 post and still havent posted u keep posting the same crap from Simpson mines is corbeau and its a 3 points show us plain and simple
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again with that ur showing 5 point harness where the 3 point and yes its bolted to the back but not to the back seat and not to the lower of it im just fed up with this safety nut job . teach us how to bolt a 3 point harness correctly i see u posting a 5 point harness shows us the 3 point i don't see 3 point these people want to know i know how but, i want u to post it since u know it all and u are mr safety shows us them 30 post and still havent posted u keep posting the same crap from Simpson mines is corbeau and its a 3 points show us plain and simple
And actually on the Simpson page, the mounting points of shoulder straps is what I'm using to to show. Regardless of if the mount individually or as a Y-connection at 1 point, the mounting procedure is the same.
Call Corbeau yourself & ask them. Although, I know you won't report back & post on TGO that I'm right. You REALLY think that Simpson mounting specs are different than Corbeau specs? Regardless of who makes a harness, the mounting procedure is governed by NHRA/SCCA/whoever.
I thought you put me in your Ignore list? If so, how did you read my post?
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BTW....You keep harping on me showing 5-pt harnesses & not 3-pt harnesses. Not my fault the harness manufacturers don't show a 3-pt in the mounting diagrams. Shoulder straps are shoulder straps. ALL are supposed to be mounted the same way, regardless of how many other mounting points there are.
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ok so today i contacted corbeau and they told me you CAN mount the rear harness to where the factory rear seats mount. at no more than a 45 degree angle.
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BTW....You keep harping on me showing 5-pt harnesses & not 3-pt harnesses. Not my fault the harness manufacturers don't show a 3-pt in the mounting diagrams. Shoulder straps are shoulder straps. ALL are supposed to be mounted the same way, regardless of how many other mounting points there are.
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i dont have a pic bc i called them, will you send me a pic of your seat brackets so i have an idea of what i have to do when i get home.
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This thread makes me laugh. 1BADZ28SD, your'e an idiot. Period. I don't usually stir the pot but regardless of your car being a show car, that's NOT how you install a harness. What's the point in putting a harness in your car if it's not correct? Not having a cage is the first problem with having a harness, what's the point? I doubt your car would get any less points for not having it in the car so, why? Saying you want a harness, ok that's fine. It's your car. But installing it by bolting it to the floor? lol. The safety points Stephen pointed out in numerous posts are correct. The lack of caring by you shows you DON'T know what your doing. Being around cars all your life has certainly shown how ignorant you really are. Did you learn anything?
I'm sure this thread will get locked and frankly, I hope it does. Reading through your retarded mess you call English, hurts my brain. There are lots of people on this forum that have a problem with typing, english or both but that's what PM's are for. Getting back on topic...
Listen to Stephen. If you want a harness without a cage, I first ask...Why? Secondly, if you MUST have a harness in the car...then...well...
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dumb a$s defending another dumb a$s its a 3 point again lol but post watever u want . don't care anymore
pic means picture lol ignorant fool almost everybody knows that in here since cleanrs got is question answer im happy don't really care what u both tards say . Demon and stephen should get a room
both idiots went i give rat a$$ for ur opinion i will ask for it lol done with these fools
pic means picture lol ignorant fool almost everybody knows that in here since cleanrs got is question answer im happy don't really care what u both tards say . Demon and stephen should get a room
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Wow. Been here barely a month & already had this kind of attitude? You won't last long here.....
If you were SOOOO confident that your harness is mounted safely, you'd post the pic here to shut me up. I bet that isn't even your car. I bet your barely in even in High School! Stupid High School dropout, posting from home when you should be getting an education.
And before you ask.....I retired at 34 yrs old, so no, I don't work. Don't need to.
And we KNOW it is a 3-point. Big deal? Doesn't make mounting the shoulder straps any different. ALL harness shoulder straps are to be mounted the same way, regardless of 3, 4, or 5 point style. Your an idiot. I only spent time on it top save others from copying you & making the same mistake.
If you were SOOOO confident that your harness is mounted safely, you'd post the pic here to shut me up. I bet that isn't even your car. I bet your barely in even in High School! Stupid High School dropout, posting from home when you should be getting an education.
And before you ask.....I retired at 34 yrs old, so no, I don't work. Don't need to.

And we KNOW it is a 3-point. Big deal? Doesn't make mounting the shoulder straps any different. ALL harness shoulder straps are to be mounted the same way, regardless of 3, 4, or 5 point style. Your an idiot. I only spent time on it top save others from copying you & making the same mistake.
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ur making me sleepy all i see is blah blah the person whos started it all was u i don't get y u still here keep running ur fingers ur 34 ? shows how mature u really are .
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yes yes i have a bicycle i don't have a car does that make u happy lmao like i posted before i dont need to prove anything to u y should y ? i dont see u posting a picture of u car u just talking about me mr retired show us what u got then
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I'm 39. Why? You interested? Sorry, I don't swing that way! 
I started what? Pointing out that your harness is mounted wrong? Of course....I bet that isn't even your car, which is why you can't go take a pic. It is just a pic you took at some car show, or you found it on the internet.
I'm mature before I care about others screwing up mounting their SAFETY harnesses like yours. Your not. You want others to mount theirs wrong & get injured or die because of their wrong mounting.

I started what? Pointing out that your harness is mounted wrong? Of course....I bet that isn't even your car, which is why you can't go take a pic. It is just a pic you took at some car show, or you found it on the internet.
I'm mature before I care about others screwing up mounting their SAFETY harnesses like yours. Your not. You want others to mount theirs wrong & get injured or die because of their wrong mounting.
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What is "y should y"? That mean 'why should why'? What is the second why about? I swear.....We need an age & intelligence requirement to be a Member here on TGO.
This pic make you happy?
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