ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
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ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
I have searched left and right through the forums with very little help. First off, the headliner was damaged while being shipped (no shipping insurance). So hopefully I can get some answers because Ive never dealt with a headliner. So here we go....
1. Is there any mounting clips on the inside? I ask because the headliner i got has none.
2. Could I cut out the section where the crease created a crack and fiberglass the cut out section?
3. Can I heat up the fold towards the front with a heat gun to form it back into shape?
Thanks guys.
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1. Is there any mounting clips on the inside? I ask because the headliner i got has none.
2. Could I cut out the section where the crease created a crack and fiberglass the cut out section?
3. Can I heat up the fold towards the front with a heat gun to form it back into shape?
Thanks guys.
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
Sorry someone tried to save a buck on shipping at your expense.
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
I know I read the pm's last night. Do you know who manufactures it ? Maybe they sell the install clips or even hawks. I think you should leave it on folded for a while and order the install clips and try to install it . With the oven you live in might help make the abs conform once its installed and retained.
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
It was a parts trade gone bad !
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
That looks like **** poor packaging, not shipping damage.
Was it folded up to ship?
Was it folded up to ship?
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
opps I didn't delete the guys name on the box
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
Wow that seriously sucks. So you have absolutely nothing to go by? It looks they deliberately folded it in there like that.
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
I left the liner outside today with 102* heat.. It got its shape back, but the damage is done. the section where the dome light is still creased and the fold up towards the front of the liner is permanently bent. So im gonna put my wifes hair dyer to work. Hopefully itll work.
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
Well my friend who made the deal for me had an extremely hard time to get the guy to send it from the East Coast. My buddy spent atleast 2 weeks to get the guy to send it. I was in no rush but my dude was persistant and desperate because he is a man of his word. So when the shipper stalled over and over agian, i think he just didnt care and sent it as he pleased. But hopefully ill get some good feedback on possible repair methods.
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Do you have permission to use her hair dryer ? lol
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
Funny.............Most aftermarket ABS headliners come folded up in a box andstretch out back into shape after unpacking with no ill effects.Was this a old/used piece?I would block it and warm up the creases GENTLY with a heat gun.............
The couple of t-top ABS I have seen and helped install came with NOmounting clips/screws etc.!The h-liner is held in place by the sunvisors, dome light, seat belt towerfiller clip and the rear ceiling piece.We added a couple of those interior trim screws with washers aroundthe t-top opening areas (front, center and rear) because with the tops off the headliner vibrated and shook like crazy so the trim screws securedit pretty good.I wish my buds car was here for pics..................
The couple of t-top ABS I have seen and helped install came with NOmounting clips/screws etc.!The h-liner is held in place by the sunvisors, dome light, seat belt towerfiller clip and the rear ceiling piece.We added a couple of those interior trim screws with washers aroundthe t-top opening areas (front, center and rear) because with the tops off the headliner vibrated and shook like crazy so the trim screws securedit pretty good.I wish my buds car was here for pics..................
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
Yes it was old. I can tell because on the inside, the liver is beggining to seperate from the foam backing. So im gonna have to re-line it. But thats not my issue. My main issue is if I can fix the crack by the crease and remold the huge fold at the front end.
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
Maybe get new material from thirdgenranch, hawks, or 1aauto.
Where the tear is in the abs, use an epoxy or something that will not destroy the abs but
" seal the whole "
Sorry its only. 02cents I can think of
Where the tear is in the abs, use an epoxy or something that will not destroy the abs but
" seal the whole "
Sorry its only. 02cents I can think of
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
Funny.............Most aftermarket ABS headliners come folded up in a box andstretch out back into shape after unpacking with no ill effects.Was this a old/used piece?I would block it and warm up the creases GENTLY with a heat gun.............
The couple of t-top ABS I have seen and helped install came with NOmounting clips/screws etc.!The h-liner is held in place by the sunvisors, dome light, seat belt towerfiller clip and the rear ceiling piece.We added a couple of those interior trim screws with washers aroundthe t-top opening areas (front, center and rear) because with the tops off the headliner vibrated and shook like crazy so the trim screws securedit pretty good.I wish my buds car was here for pics..................
The couple of t-top ABS I have seen and helped install came with NOmounting clips/screws etc.!The h-liner is held in place by the sunvisors, dome light, seat belt towerfiller clip and the rear ceiling piece.We added a couple of those interior trim screws with washers aroundthe t-top opening areas (front, center and rear) because with the tops off the headliner vibrated and shook like crazy so the trim screws securedit pretty good.I wish my buds car was here for pics..................
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I would believe so.
The stuff I used on another plastic part came with a decent size piece of nylon screen and was able to sand it.
The stuff I used on another plastic part came with a decent size piece of nylon screen and was able to sand it.
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Right on T-Top Havoc. Thanks for the tips man. Well Im gonna have to log off now. Gotta help make dinner for my children.
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
Chevy86, get some 2x4 or 2x2 scraps from Lowes or Home Depot. The scraps are free. Use the scap wood to block the H-liner when you heat it up. But keep us posted. There may be others that have the same problem.
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Of course guys. I'll take pictures while I try to fix this thing. Gotta go. Carne Asada is cookin and I'm drinking a Chelada (Budlight with Clamato). Orale mis compás de los Estados Unidos. Suben los caguamas al cielo!!!!!
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
Thx for posting this man, I'm not happy with what he sent u. He says he sells on Ebay as well
We ll hook u up man
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For TGO Members, If anyone needs a part for your 3rd gen, Ray is who you need to talk to. He is a man of his word. Thanks again Ray.
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As for TunedPerformanc, all I gotta say is that the Car club I was in is completely satisfied with their custom tuned EPROMs. TunedPerformance has your tuning needs. Wanna see the cars that has TunedPerformanc EPROMs? Of course you do!!!
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Re: ABS T-Top HeadLiner damage (shipping damage)
Got all the folds out. Now its time to test fit the liner inside the Camaro. That will be done tomorrow morning.
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All done. Looks good. Ill of course remove the iner to recarpet but Im very pleased with the end result.
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Glad its going to work out for ya!!
How // what did you use to " shade " the inside of the glass for the t-tops?
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Great display of patience!!
How // what did you use to " shade " the inside of the glass for the t-tops?
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Great display of patience!!
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Looks good, Even The cat was checking out your handy work. lol
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Yeah bro, Chorizo (cats name) was smelling the liner because i reckon that the PO of the liner had a cat due to the amount of cat hair that was stuck to the fabrique. Thread Starter
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I was trying too keep it clean . lol
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Hahaha. On the phone, in email, and in TGO. That sense of humor can't be bought. Lol
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I keep telling my wife she's a lucky lady for finding me. Maybe some day she will believe me. lol
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I'm sure she knows it B.
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