My LS3 Swap
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Re: My LS3 Swap
nick i couldnt locate the thread you were talking about "peg/pedals" but sont i just need to get a peg from the 4th pedals or is there something cheaper another alternative?
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Here's the thread, I think I used the term "pin" not "peg" which might have made it difficult to find.
This is about a $3.00 fix.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...e-4th-gen.html
This is about a $3.00 fix.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...e-4th-gen.html
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Here's the thread, I think I used the term "pin" not "peg" which might have made it difficult to find.
This is about a $3.00 fix.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...e-4th-gen.html
This is about a $3.00 fix.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...e-4th-gen.html
pedals installed and some pics with the rail cover installed also.
pic from a camera phone crappy quality
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Re: My LS3 Swap
You can use a factory 4th gen hose. www.rockauto.com has them for around $25 if I remember correctly.
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Re: My LS3 Swap
seem like everyone is making the own radiator support piece for the top well i made one too. the reason for this is that the 06 gto k&n cai hits where the stock radiator hose support is modified the stock piece (organally dual fan set up)
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So I know the appeal of using the Erod package in a CA car is for smog compliance. Since it is an LS3 designed for swap applications how do they address the exhaust manifolds and catalytic converter requirements CA has? In order to get an E.O. number the erod has to have been certified with a specific set of parts. Do those actually work in a third gen?
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So I know the appeal of using the Erod package in a CA car is for smog compliance. Since it is an LS3 designed for swap applications how do they address the exhaust manifolds and catalytic converter requirements CA has? In order to get an E.O. number the erod has to have been certified with a specific set of parts. Do those actually work in a third gen?
I believe it does, the one concern is the cross member, but hawks sells the cross member that allows clearance...
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as far as the center dumps origanlly equipped on the ls3, no those dont work, i tried to get them to work but w/o a tubular k-member theres no way to get them to work
but whenu purchase the erod crate engine u also get a pair of 2010 camaro exhaust manifolds on the side, now those do work, the driver side so far no problem but the collector on the passenger side needed to be tweak a little (will get some pic later)
im still tinckering with the exhaust for now, no money for hawks lt at the moment but will get them later down the road (even thought im in cali).
the crossmember is cut and now welded up to to clear the vette oil pan
thats all for the moment
but whenu purchase the erod crate engine u also get a pair of 2010 camaro exhaust manifolds on the side, now those do work, the driver side so far no problem but the collector on the passenger side needed to be tweak a little (will get some pic later)
im still tinckering with the exhaust for now, no money for hawks lt at the moment but will get them later down the road (even thought im in cali).
the crossmember is cut and now welded up to to clear the vette oil pan
thats all for the moment
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it has a e.o. number for cali so noprob there
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but for now motors back in and wiring has started. the power sterring is done half to get a pic for tommy boy on the psteering. u might not like it tommyboy im not really to happy with the look of it. so i might try to do something a little different.
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As far as a power steering hose, you can take it to any company that makes hydraulic hoses. (Hose power, Master hose, Hydro builders, etc.) As long as you have an example of the correct fittings they can make it for you for between $25 to $50. I had hose power make mine out of stainless braided for $60. (They charge more for ss braided.) Took them about 10 min to swedge the ends on the hose for me. If you get stuck looking for a place to make them, call hertz equipment rental in your area (Or any other heavy equipment rental company, such as H&E, sunbelt, etc.) and ask where they get their hydraulic hoses made. They shouldnt have any problem telling you this info.
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As far as a power steering hose, you can take it to any company that makes hydraulic hoses. (Hose power, Master hose, Hydro builders, etc.) As long as you have an example of the correct fittings they can make it for you for between $25 to $50. I had hose power make mine out of stainless braided for $60. (They charge more for ss braided.) Took them about 10 min to swedge the ends on the hose for me. If you get stuck looking for a place to make them, call hertz equipment rental in your area (Or any other heavy equipment rental company, such as H&E, sunbelt, etc.) and ask where they get their hydraulic hoses made. They shouldnt have any problem telling you this info.
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I used a fourth gen camaro hose. But this is one thing i will change. I had to modify it pretty good to get it to fit. But for how much care i took into making the engine look "at home" Im not happy with it at all. I tried to get a custom hose made up but i had a hard time finding someone who could make one. I will find someone who can.
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(gotta get a better camera, taking my pics with a camera phone and not as good quality)
quick update:
1. had the aluminum driveshaft cut an balanced(car been lowered quiet a bit its was pushing the yoke too far into the trans)
2. swap out the fuel pump for a high-flo walbro pump
3.not to sure if this matter or not, but on installation of the ecu(putting it in the same location as the stock tpi ecu, under the dash/passenger side)
i figured i replace the heater core i wasnt too sure if there might have been any deposits or anything left from the old tpi engine, and i didnt want it to circulate into the new engine so went ahead and change it.
4.starting on the wiring.
quick update:
1. had the aluminum driveshaft cut an balanced(car been lowered quiet a bit its was pushing the yoke too far into the trans)
2. swap out the fuel pump for a high-flo walbro pump
3.not to sure if this matter or not, but on installation of the ecu(putting it in the same location as the stock tpi ecu, under the dash/passenger side)
i figured i replace the heater core i wasnt too sure if there might have been any deposits or anything left from the old tpi engine, and i didnt want it to circulate into the new engine so went ahead and change it.
4.starting on the wiring.
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Re: My LS3 Swap
Over on LS1tech you mentioned that you looked for a GTO t56 specifically. What was your reasoning for that over an f-body LS1 t56?
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1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th R
gto.......2.97 2.07 1.43 1.00 .84 .56 2.90
fbody....2.66 1.78 1.30 1.00 .74 .50 2.90
2.66:11.78:11.30:11.00:10.74:10.50:12.90:1
I've heard the gto has a little more strenght but not to sure
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1. the dbw throttle, the wire were routed using the exsiting hole were the the previous throttle cable came threw for the tpi engine.
2. nothing to do with the swap, but i took some pics of the 2011 ZR1. dont see to many of these running around and the just happened to haveone at the chevrolt dealership.
2. nothing to do with the swap, but i took some pics of the 2011 ZR1. dont see to many of these running around and the just happened to haveone at the chevrolt dealership.
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Could you get a picture of the tweak you did to the 2010 manifolds? I have a chance to score a set, of practically brand new ones, for very cheap. However, I want to make sure they will fit before doing that.
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but heres some updates
-need help with exhaust went to my buddies
-powersteering not tohappy with but will change later
-went with black fitting and black nylon fuel lines not to crazy about stell braided or red/blue fitting
-crappy pics from iphone agian will get better camera once it all cleaned up and complete
-the upper radiator hose fits perfect for later style ls water pumps with the water neck on the driver side(2007-earlier have water neck more towards passanger side) hose is a gates
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the old tpi had a leaking front seal so its a little dirty underneath but im on it wont stay that way for long!
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i copied timmy boy
i went with all black fittings and black hose instead of steel braided

i went with all black fittings and black hose instead of steel braided
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the shifter cup i did order and the mgw short shift. i ordered the mgw cuz i read alot of good things from ls1 tech about it and figured id give it a try, and the customer service was great it should be shipping out on 12/06 i order it on friday. a link to the shifter
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http://www.mgwltd.com/camaro_short_throw_shifter.shtml
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mine was not that much but around 220 i believe, as far as being worth it i have not got the chance to drive it that much being at the exhaust shop and im still waiting to swap the dash out. after the the intial break in of the engine and ill be a little more willing to get on the gas but im being causious now ill let u know a lil down the road
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mine was not that much but around 220 i believe, as far as being worth it i have not got the chance to drive it that much being at the exhaust shop and im still waiting to swap the dash out. after the the intial break in of the engine and ill be a little more willing to get on the gas but im being causious now ill let u know a lil down the road
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for the lower hose iused the 98-02 f body hose
send the cai to get it powdercoated but she's running (crappy cell phone pick)
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Congratulations to a super clean build. I´ll try to start mine tomorrow again. We have found one electrical bug (we think)
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Congrats on getting the car alive, i just got my iroc running too. Are you going to dyno the car?
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not at the moment when the motor comes out to weld it i will take some. i cut it for clearance for the oil pan and dont have the money for the tubular k-member. i didnt want to buy just the k-member and waste money and have to buy one later, my plan was to go with the coil over set-up and at 1400 bucks i just dont have it now. so i didnt want to buy one for the stock set-up and later have to buy another.
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i know its been awhile since iposted on my swap, but just a update and some suggest parts i have found that may interest alot of u lsx swappers.
first the update
-i did have it dyno a couple of months ago and cant seem to fing the graphs i had but the hp was 379.76 rwhp
the stock 10 bolt is now broke time for a 9in or 12 bolt -spike iroc just might have give mwc a call that housing looks badass.
alot of u have the heater coolant lines sitting on the corvette coil cover or something to that effect but i boughts these not to long ago i really like i will have to get a pic of them installed but the part numbers
pn 28471, 28479 theyre both gate hoses that have a 90* bent to let u hide them a lil better
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they do have longer hoses these are 36in long i believe the other are another 12-18inches
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got the from pace performance w/o ac u can get them with ac thought there the c6 vette 19155167 that the pn w/o ac though it went up quite a bit since i got mine it was around 400
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i knew i was forgotten something yesterday i ended making a threw pipe so i remove the cats and install them at the time of smog (excuse the bad pics there all from a camera phone) im still using the exhaust manifolds had not bought headers do to the fact ive been realling considering a turbo for the forced induction ,and considering a flowmaster y-pipe for a cleaner look
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For my LT1 swap, I cut out a hole in the driver's side battery tray, and I am bolting an aluminum plate with a 3.5" tube welded onto it, and I am running the filter right underneath the battery tray so it'll get cooler air than what's in the engine bay.
I got an Air Force aluminum throttle body elbow off ebay for like $49 (this is the cheapest aluminum elbow I could find) and just bought the aluminum intake tubing separately. I'm using a silicone coupler on the tube on the battery tray plate, so I can adjust the small 45 degree elbow that will be fastened onto it, so the intake tube from the throttle body will mesh with it, then I'll just tighten it down and voila!!
It should work very nicely. Wish I had a pic of it all completed, but my engine still isn't built yet. Here's a pic of my foamboard template for the aluminum battery tray plate and then another pic of my original idea with the smaller plate with tube. I decided to go with a bigger plate that will hide all the holes in the battery tray and will look cleaner:


I got an Air Force aluminum throttle body elbow off ebay for like $49 (this is the cheapest aluminum elbow I could find) and just bought the aluminum intake tubing separately. I'm using a silicone coupler on the tube on the battery tray plate, so I can adjust the small 45 degree elbow that will be fastened onto it, so the intake tube from the throttle body will mesh with it, then I'll just tighten it down and voila!!
It should work very nicely. Wish I had a pic of it all completed, but my engine still isn't built yet. Here's a pic of my foamboard template for the aluminum battery tray plate and then another pic of my original idea with the smaller plate with tube. I decided to go with a bigger plate that will hide all the holes in the battery tray and will look cleaner:


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