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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 12:50 AM
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LT1 in my 83

hey my names seth im a new member here but have had my 83z with lg4 and t5 for sevral years now i recently picked up a estimated 95 lt1 and what appears to be 700r4 out of a roadmaster for 400 bucks with hacked harness and no ecm i was looking for info on people who have carbarated these engines and done the swap but seems like theres a lot of flack about how dumb it is to carb it but its the path i want to follow do to simplicity and budget. iv searched the fourm for hours now and havent gotten any solid info or any build ideas i was wondering if any one has any experiance or knowledge of this swap. i would like to keep it a manual car and was wondering if my stock t-5 would mate or if a t-5 from a 95 v.6 woud mate. i know i need to convert it to a conventional dist. and plug the optispark hole and buy the carb manifold i will not be running a/c so will this motor literally drop in? any information that you can be provided with my swap would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 01:04 AM
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Re: LT1 in my 83

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-24502592/

Now for the real question... what do you plan on doing with the ignition (since it is originally computer controlled)?

I believe you will need a special cam as well, the early LT1 cams were used to drive the oil pump and will not drive a distributor.
Than you'd need a distributor as well.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 01:22 AM
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Re: LT1 in my 83

i would like to get back to a simple earlier ignition i planned on buying a distributor will i cam for say a genI work without the opti? and is the iol pump driven the same or completly diffrent?
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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Re: LT1 in my 83

Originally Posted by 83ZEELT
i would like to get back to a simple earlier ignition i planned on buying a distributor
Once you have a reg dist in, can run any engine management ( TPI for example ) system without the Opti.
A computer doesn't know / care what it is controlling so long as there are 8 injectors and a dist of some kind

Originally Posted by zraffz
the early LT1 cams were used to drive the oil pump and will not drive a distributor.
LT1's just use a reg factory roller cam ;
only difference being the length of the drive pin at front varies dependent on which style Opti is used

The gear that drives the Oil Pump in a LTX is the same gear that drives the dist and Oil Pump in a reg SBC engine
Think of a dist with the top part cut off ; that is what is hidden in the valley of a LTX

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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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Re: LT1 in my 83

so what would i need to run a hei in an lt1. is this distrib with the top cut off remavable to make way for a standerd dist. so will any would a regular aftermarket cam for a lt1 work. thanks
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 83ZEELT
seems like theres a lot of flack about how dumb it is to carb it but its the path i want to follow do to simplicity and budget.
The honest hard truth is the simplest and least expensive way would be to sell the LT1 and tranny and buy a Gen I SBC 350.

The honest hard truth Part 2 is that putting a carb on an LT1 is harder and more expensive than swapping an LT1 into a 3rd gen as a full-up EFI LT1.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 03:50 PM
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Re: LT1 in my 83

well for now im ganna start with carbed its a project for me to do and its the route i wanna take. now question will a t-5 out of a 99 camaro with a 3.8 bolt to the lt?
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 04:05 PM
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I'm not completely familiar with the clutch set-up in a '99. I have heard of people putting 4th gen V6 5-speeds in 3rd gens, but I'm not familiar with the details. You might try searching the Transmission and Drivetrain forum.

Go ahead and stick with a carb. I would highly advise against starting with an LT1 engine, though. If simplicity and budget-friendliness truly are important considerations, you're starting off on the wrong foot. It's one of those projects that has a high probability of never being finished.

That's what I'm seeing, anyway.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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Re: LT1 in my 83

Use this with a conventional dist and you'll essentially have a high compression 350 with a small aftermarket
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-24502592/

I agree with five7kid, sell it and get a common 350 SBC
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