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Old 04-29-2013, 09:25 AM
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Re: My 1986 Z-28 build thread *PIC HEAVY*

Originally Posted by 1986Z28OWNER
Arp stainless bolts, and felpro 1255 Intake gaskets.

Thanks for that.
I had been running the OEM Vortecs and Air Gap intake for years with the MS 90131 and had no problems. When I moved on to the RHS Vortecs (Pro Torker), I started using a ton of oil. 6 and 8 plugs are oil fouled (the engine is fresh) so it looks like the gasket gave up or doesn't quite fit the new heads or the slightly decked block (.015").
I like the looks of the 1255. There's only one report I've read where even though the gasket appears to have sealed the port completely, oil getting past it was still a problem.
Having said that, I'm encouraged by your choice of the 1255. From the looks of things, you and your shop appear very thorough. Your build is excellent.
I ordered a 1255 last week but am still investigating what peoples experiences are. I'll order new bolts too. Still debating whether to choose the Edelbrock spec (8516) or the ARP 134-2103.
Thanks again.
Keep up the good work.
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Get some red brush on Hi-tack, glue the head, and both side of the gasket. Mine held 14" of crankcase vacuum without a single issue. I also do a bead of right stuff around the coolant passages on both sides of the gasket. Also, my block has been decked about 0.022" and the heads around 0.007". Felpro MLS 0.040" head gasket.

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Get some red brush on Hi-tack, glue the head, and both side of the gasket. Mine held 14" of crankcase vacuum without a single issue. I also do a bead of right stuff around the coolant passages on both sides of the gasket. Also, my block has been decked about 0.022" and the heads around 0.007". Felpro MLS 0.040" head gasket.
My thoughts too although I only have the spray on high tack here. I haven't had much of need for it as almost all the engine gaskets are of the (blue) silicone type. I use Right Stuff on the balance of the paper gaskets like t-stat, timing cover. Head gaskets are Victor Reinz Nitroseal .026".
Looks like more shopping for the brush on variety of sealer.
Just a thought. I don't suppose you spent too much time at idle (on the dyno) where your manifold vacuum is highest. This would have been largely offset by the vacuum pump although having said that, I suppose at WOT, when manifold is at or near zero, there's quite a pull from the pump (14").
I'm not sure when my gasket packed it in as it's been using oil from the onset. At cruise, when coasting down a hill, my manifold vacuum is above 20".
I hope the 1255 and High Tack are up to the task.
Thanks again.
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Ive had enough bleeding finger tips scraping these gaskets off with a razor blade to know they arnt going anywhere. Provided your angle's are correct.
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Originally Posted by 1986Z28OWNER
Arp stainless bolts, and felpro 1255 Intake gaskets.
What do you use for a torque spec? I used the same parts on my engine but ignored the OEM 10 ft/lbs spec. I torqued mine to 23 ft/lbs with liquid teflon on the threads as per a tech guy @ ARP.

Build is looking great BTW, can't wait to see this thing finished!
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I used my best judgement when I tightened them. Never had a problem.
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Awesome build
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Awesome build
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Roll cage goodness!

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nicely done! are you going to be making an aluminum dash panel? Or running the bars up front through the stock dash?
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Stock dash, Thats why we tucked the a pillar bars so tight so the amount I had to trim the dash pad was minimal.
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More roll cage sweetness.

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Hello??? this thread seems kinda dead.

Spent a few hour's last night getting the bellhousing aligned, Also ended up making a custom alignment tool for the clutch disc. but at the end of the night I have the engine ready for the transmission. The Flywheel is a lightweight RAM billet steel, the clutch is a RAM powergrip HD, and the scattershield is a lakewood.

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Pulling that scattershield looks like it would be a PITA to pull when the engine is in place. WOW.
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Yah, thats why I decided to do it before it went in the car.
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Looking great, cant wait to see it finished.
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Looking great, cant wait to see it finished.
Same here haha, It's finally starting to come together.
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Major milestone, transmission meets engine.

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how did you get the roll cage in the car since it looks like its put together outside the car??
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It's getting partially welded in 2 pieces then put back in the car for final welding
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yet again, more roll cage updates

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Cage is 95% welded. Just gotta weld the plate to the floor and the finish welding the cage to the plates.

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Cage is 100% done. Glass will be going in soon!

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Started mounting the nitrous fuel cell

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Threw on a front tire to check clearance on the fuel cell.

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phenomenal build, ust took over 45 minutes to read through it, absolutely amazing man.
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more updates!

nitrous fuel cell roughly mounted, may have to shorten up the cell a bit. Goign to put on the front fender and see how it fits.

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Started removing the old front suspension



Driver side seat partially mounted

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Wow talk about some serious work being done to a car. Its pretty rare you see someone doing everything right. Most people bolt in a some crazy HP motor into a car, be damned stock rear, suspension, transmission, brakes or anything else. Your car should be a shrine to all 3rd gens when its done! Just watch out for deer! I just tagged one with my truck and seems like everyone i know is hitting them left and right!!!
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More updates!

Rear bumpstops cut off and plated.

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Kirkeys mounted.

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Painless switch panel mounted on the halo bar.

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Well, more updates... Last night was quite productive.

Brought the hood and front fenders to check clearance on the top of radiator.



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Cut out some floor in the rear to make room for the fuel cell

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Kirkeys

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Radiator fits!

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Nitrous fuel cell.

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Welded a sump into the fuel cell

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Rear wheel wells all cleaned up

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Shot from the rear

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Custom made master cylinder adapter

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Torque arm bolted to the rear end.

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Removable upper rad tie bar to make engine installation/removal easier

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REAR END IS IN!



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Old 05-29-2013, 02:11 PM
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Wow. That's a lot of work.
When do you anticipate being done?
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Wow. That's a lot of work.
When do you anticipate being done?
Goal is end of June.
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She is taking shape!
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awesome progress, who makes the that radiator and how many cores are in it?

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It's a custom made saldana.
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Removable upper rad tie bar to make engine installation/removal easier




awesome but how do you reattach it car is coming along nicely btw
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awesome but how do you reattach it car is coming along nicely btw
We built tabs to bolt it back into the car.
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Good ol' lucky lager! Car is shaping up for sure, I hope you get it done by your deadline. Good luck!
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who makes that master cylinder?
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It`s made by strange engineering, copy of an old dodge piece.
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Made the car a roller again last night, so I can bring it home tonight. Nolan is gone for a week, so im bringing it home to keep going hard on it until he gets back to finish the fab work

New front steering loosely bolted in to make rolling it around easier.

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Outside for the first time in a while

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Nice garage, I want one.
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Updates! the pictures are self explanatory

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Made the car a roller again last night, so I can bring it home tonight. Nolan is gone for a week, so im bringing it home to keep going hard on it until he gets back to finish the fab work

New front steering loosely bolted in to make rolling it around easier.

What are you running for a steering box?
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I can't wait to see the final product.

I'm forever checking in on your build. This car is/going to be truly amazing.
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What are you running for a steering box?
S10 manual.
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Why manual steering? That will get old fast... I thought you would have gone with a Delphi box.
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Power steering dosnt make it go any faster. I'm used to driving lots of old cars, manual steering, manual brakes, three on the tree etc. I'll manage
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