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Old 06-09-2017, 10:35 AM
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Nice touch with the emblem!
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Nice touch with the emblem!
Thanks! We're all about the details...
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What vintage air unit is that?
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What vintage air unit is that?
This is the Vintage Air Gen II Heater/Defrost Unit.

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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

What an awesome build,it's like seeing my dream build down to the ls7 and splitter,any chance of defuser?

Thank you for doing this,I remember seeing your first gen camaro builds in magazines 10 years ago wishing you guys would build a third gen.finally!! Thank you! Looking forward to picking up every magazine that this car makes it into!
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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What an awesome build,it's like seeing my dream build down to the ls7 and splitter,any chance of defuser?

Thank you for doing this,I remember seeing your first gen camaro builds in magazines 10 years ago wishing you guys would build a third gen.finally!! Thank you! Looking forward to picking up every magazine that this car makes it into!
We will not be putting a diffuser on this car.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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What an awesome build,it's like seeing my dream build down to the ls7 and splitter,any chance of defuser?

Thank you for doing this,I remember seeing your first gen camaro builds in magazines 10 years ago wishing you guys would build a third gen.finally!! Thank you! Looking forward to picking up every magazine that this car makes it into!
Diffuser would be purely be for looks and as such on majority of thirdgen only a functional one would utilize full belly pan and not really worth effort unless your road racing on large tracks but does look cool id done right
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

Now it really looks like a car again.

Wiring is well under way and it won't be long until we're ready to crank it over.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

Sweet baby jesus! That looks incredible!
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

That does look awesome.
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Matt is finalizing the car's wiring and has begun some interior assembly. The door panels came off of our previous Test Car and are original other than our arm rest modification.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

Car is coming together very nicely!
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Every so often a special build, and a special car comes along. This is one special car. Awesome build and great products you all have.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

this car is siiiick. love the design of the hood louvers!
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We have power!

Won't be long until we fire up that de-stroked MAST LS7...stay tuned.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

I see the keys in the left side of the dash. What kind of column are you running?
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I see the keys in the left side of the dash. What kind of column are you running?
We are running a Woodward quick-disconnect steering column.
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Progress, progress, progress...

The car is now plumbed thanks to Earl's Performance Fittings and the exhaust is on for good...getting closer to firing it up.
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How did you put AN fittings on the water pump and what's the line that goes up to the windshield on the passenger side for?
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Are you running that 3an stainless braided brake line to junction block then hardline out to front wheels? I'm wondering about thoughts of going stainless braided from my master straight to the front wheels in 3an and hiding them... while I've got a motor out.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

Its a shame you guys werent in the game 10 years ago when I started building mine. A lot of cool stuff on offer.

I find it a shame that shifter ring and crossmember arent being brought to market, but I have many more pages to read, so maybe you guys will change your mind.
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How did you put AN fittings on the water pump and what's the line that goes up to the windshield on the passenger side for?
The lower hose utilizes an Earl's Fittings adapter while the upper hose was made in house. To do the heater hoses we simply knocked out the factory pipes and tapped the holes to NPT. From there we just used an AN adapter.

The line up to the windshield is used as a NASCAR-style purge if the car ever overheats.
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Are you running that 3an stainless braided brake line to junction block then hardline out to front wheels? I'm wondering about thoughts of going stainless braided from my master straight to the front wheels in 3an and hiding them... while I've got a motor out.
Yes Brandon, it is -3 off of the masters going to a junction. From there it's 3/16 hardline to all 4 corners.
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The picture of the Kicker 4" x 6" speaker is funny - does anyone expect to hear the radio over the engine & exhaust in that thing?
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The picture of the Kicker 4" x 6" speaker is funny - does anyone expect to hear the radio over the engine & exhaust in that thing?
Doubtful, but we will find out!
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

Can you post pics of how you routed the scavenge and supply lines on the dry sump setup? I'm trying to run one on mine and I'm not sure how to route the lines out of the bottom of the tank and the pump.
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Can you post pics of how you routed the scavenge and supply lines on the dry sump setup? I'm trying to run one on mine and I'm not sure how to route the lines out of the bottom of the tank and the pump.
For the scavenge line, we had to clearance the K-Member. We will post photos when we re-install the line.
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Some more quick updates for you...

Had to grab a few photos of the duct work before the C&R Racing radiator goes back in.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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For the scavenge line, we had to clearance the K-Member. We will post photos when we re-install the line.
I'd love to see how you route the supply line from the tank to pump and then to the filter once you have that done. Thanks!
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I just installed the DSE Speed Kit 1 on front end of my '91 RS and this thread is awesome!
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Just found this thread today and read the whole thing. Love it!
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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As most of you may know, we experienced an unfortunate event with our original DSE 1988 Camaro at the track. After extensive inspection, the body was not fit for a rebuild. So now it sits in the woods. We have had many requests for updates on a new project, so we will be coming to you weekly with updates on DSE 1988 Camaro 2.0!

The new car will be fairly similar to the previous build with some updates and changes. The entire car will be "Equipped" with all of the production components we offer for 3rd gen vehicles. We started 2.0 with a fairly solid 1988 V6/auto car. Some updates over the previous car will be a de-stroked dry-sump LS7 rather than the wet-sump LS3 and the Ford 9" rear will feature our DSE C6 full floater axle kit.

At this point, the car has been stripped, blasted, and fabrication has begun. We have installed our DSE subframe connectors along with newly fabricated racing seat mounts. We have also installed our DSE 600 steering gear to frame (The frame was modified to allow for a 4th fastener).

We look forward to continuing these updates and we will be here for any questions that you may have!

Thanks,
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.... This car is absolutely BADASS !!! .... I have been away from my 91' FireHawk project for awhile but I just recently caught myself up somewhat, on current events and man this is impressive, the DSE stuff is so sweet !!!! I'm looking where it says wheel/tire sizes in here, I'll keep reading

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The wheels are 18x11 6" BS up front and 18x11 6.5" BS in the rear. We are running BFGoodrich Rival S tires 315/30/18 all around.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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The lower hose utilizes an Earl's Fittings adapter while the upper hose was made in house. To do the heater hoses we simply knocked out the factory pipes and tapped the holes to NPT. From there we just used an AN adapter.

The line up to the windshield is used as a NASCAR-style purge if the car ever overheats.
How did you connect them to the heater core? I love the idea of AN fittings for connecting to the pump but was curious how you attached the hoses to the heater core.
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How did you connect them to the heater core? I love the idea of AN fittings for connecting to the pump but was curious how you attached the hoses to the heater core.
We used these little adapters that create 2 sealing surfaces and allow an AN fitting to seal to the heater core.
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I'd love to see how you route the supply line from the tank to pump and then to the filter once you have that done. Thanks!
Hope this helps to show you how we ran the lines. We have not yet hooked up the filter line.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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Hope this helps to show you how we ran the lines. We have not yet hooked up the filter line.
It does, thank you. I feel like the scavenge lines out of the pump are going to hit the steering components. It's already touching them. That's the issue I noticed as well.

Any idea why they are venting the valve covers vs pulling a vacuum on the engine?
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It does, thank you. I feel like the scavenge lines out of the pump are going to hit the steering components. It's already touching them. That's the issue I noticed as well.

Any idea why they are venting the valve covers vs pulling a vacuum on the engine?
Although they appear very close in the photos, we can assure you that the lines do not interfere with any steering components. They are close, but do not touch.

The valve covers and dry-sump tank both vent to a catch can that is mounted right next to the tank itself. You can see it in the attached photo.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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We used these little adapters that create 2 sealing surfaces and allow an AN fitting to seal to the heater core.
Do you have a part number for these fittings? I love how clean these look. Would love to know more about the part numbers for each coolant line to the water pump. Many thanks!!
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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We have power!

Won't be long until we fire up that de-stroked MAST LS7...stay tuned.
... DeStroking because of too much torque coming out of the turns i'm guessing ?? ...
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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Although they appear very close in the photos, we can assure you that the lines do not interfere with any steering components. They are close, but do not touch.

The valve covers and dry-sump tank both vent to a catch can that is mounted right next to the tank itself. You can see it in the attached photo.
... how do you guys like the Brown & Miller hose ends ?? ... we use them on about 90% of our stuff we build, but lord what a massive improvement over the standard braided hose ends as far as time to build and weight, Brown/Miller stuff is a snap !!! almost too easy with the press ... they are spendy though ...
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406
... how do you guys like the Brown & Miller hose ends ?? ... we use them on about 90% of our stuff we build, but lord what a massive improvement over the standard braided hose ends as far as time to build and weight, Brown/Miller stuff is a snap !!! almost too easy with the press ... they are spendy though ...
The only Brown & Miller on this car are the dry sump lines going to and from the pump. The rest of our plumbing is Earl's Performance Fittings. Both hose ends are easy to make and are built to last.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

Should be firing the car up today, so we will be back with some video!

But for now...here are some more details tied up...
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

I just gotta say that DSE-Z looks perfect!!!! I don't know how you come up with these great ideas, but that little touch is killer HAHA!

I really like your placement better and wish I would not have put mine on at 4am, and took the time to play with placement vs using factory measurements. I got that time now... I'll be looking for an email with a AI file soon
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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I just gotta say that DSE-Z looks perfect!!!! I don't know how you come up with these great ideas, but that little touch is killer HAHA!

I really like your placement better and wish I would not have put mine on at 4am, and took the time to play with placement vs using factory measurements. I got that time now... I'll be looking for an email with a AI file soon
Sometimes these ideas just come to us...
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You're seeing it here first...as promised...

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That thing is nasty.........I nominate this one for COTM next time around
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

Sounds Angry!

Are you running a stock rear glass hatch or did you install a lexan rear window? I've never seen the installation of lexan in place of the rear glass. I would like to see how it was done.
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

You already know how I feel about it... GAAAHHHHH!!!!!
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Re: Detroit Speed 1987 Camaro Test Car 2.0

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Sounds Angry!

Are you running a stock rear glass hatch or did you install a lexan rear window? I've never seen the installation of lexan in place of the rear glass. I would like to see how it was done.
That would be a factory glass hatch, no lexan.


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