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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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trouble shooting 91 GTA norcal gurus

car doesnt want to pull past 3 grand or higher rpms,starts loadin up if i try to get on it ,at idle sometimes it surges doesnt idle steady but as soon as i pull one of the injectors it idles smooth no codes pop up and fuel pressure looks good new coolant temp,o2, this one has me stumped.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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Check ALL injectors with a multimeter.

They should read ~16ohms if I remember, but basically find the odd man out and replace it (if you have a spare) or just relace them.

OT: 91 GTA sounds sweet! pics?
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:08 AM
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when there all plugged in it stumbles a little when i disconect any of the injectors it smoothes out figured disconecting one gives it a lean so it causes the computer to richin it up funny with one of them disconected it runs the smoothest idles fine with any of the injectors disconected
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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Like I said, check them all with a multimeter, see if one is bad.

If they all check out fine you might very well have another issue.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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working on it for a friend he took it to a shop the just ripped him a new 1 left it worst then what it went in its 91 black gta 5.7
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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I've heard of quite a few shops that will do that to a perfectly good car.

Did it go in the shop for the same problem you're mentioning?
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:18 AM
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no lol it actually went in for somthing else well the idling problem and not passing smog but it pulled nice all through the rpm range motor runs strong but when it went to the shop now it dont respond and it runs like crap after 3 grand so bad u have to take ure foot out the gas only runs fine at less then half throttle
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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I'd also have to say check all the basics, timing etc.

Hard to say without more info or actually seeing what it does...
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:33 AM
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a weak spark will cause you not to be able to rev over a certain rpm.

like when your running on just a battery you notice the car lights get dimmer, and it runs ****tier, and your revving gets worse n worse.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:43 AM
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timing checked its at 10 tps voltage checked .60 or so new coolant temp sensor and o2 cats arent plugged up checked revs up fine in nuetral a lil stumble but pulls to 5 grand but under a load its not ive check the fuel pressure its 45 or so and i checked it under a load 2
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:45 AM
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check fuel injectors like they said then. if thats not it, sell the car.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:47 AM
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im checking the injectors tommorow but cant sell it its not mine if not i whould just trying to help someone out but im pretty good with the tpi troubleshooting but this ones new to me has me stuck
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 02:23 AM
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have you tried smashing the tpi with a hammer?
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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sledgehammmer didnt work traviz maybe if i cross the positive and negative it might fry everything and work right
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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like said check the injectors they should be between 14-16ohms, also check maf sensor swap out yours thats what it more sounds like
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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its not maf.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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no its speed density
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Eric does it again
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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advice comin from someone that cant even get there own car to run halfway decent most people that have a clue anything 90 up is speed density it dont take a rocket scientist im not going to say any names
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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There's another sig quote for TraviZzzzZzZZzz
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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Done and set in stone.

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 02:27 AM
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lol oops didnt see it was a 91



in that case check the map sensor
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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nice try, its only listed in the title and a few posts.

how exactly do you check a map sensor buddy?
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TraviZ
how exactly do you check a map sensor buddy?
with a DVOM should be about 1v-1.5v at idle and 4.5v-5v at WOT. I don't think its the MAP.

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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heres a pic of the headache
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