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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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why stay automatic?

why stay automatic when you can get a clutchless T-56!

bah i always make the wrong decisions!

Video - Demonstration of the Liberty's Gear, face plate engagement modified T56. The upshifts are done without the clutch.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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cuz a t-56 gear ratios are gay, not as gay as your 700r4 but none the less.

I was pretty dead set on getting a tremec tko 600 but their gear ratios suck too.

Th400 or Power Glide are next, havent decided yet. Probably wind up with the 400.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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in aftermarket trannies, i can find lots of gear ratios availabile, you dont like any of them? I would like to see a 2.9 first followed by around a 1.8 second 1.4 third and a 1:1 fourth.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TraviZ
in aftermarket trannies, i can find lots of gear ratios availabile, you dont like any of them? I would like to see a 2.9 first followed by around a 1.8 second 1.4 third and a 1:1 fourth.

2.9s way too steep for me, least for my car, i have to feather it w/ my T-5. Id like a 2.5-2-1.5-1 or atleast close to that. The Muncie was bad ***
2.52-1.88-1.46-1 or even 2.20-1.64-1.28-1. But none of them can handle any power, I wouldnt even consider something w/ a first gear close to a 3.0 anymore. 2.5ish seems like it would be nice for my car. Plus going through clutchs isnt any fun. Haveing no power to the wheels while ur shifting isn't any fun. Sure the parasetic loss is nice but ET wise you really can't beat an auto. For each their own tho.
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oh also power level wise manual trannys are kinda ****ty, not that they dont make any but then be prepared to start really dishin out some cash. Till im rich my **** stays on a budget, and even that is normally too much.

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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looks like hes using the clutch to me
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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on the first run watch, its clutchless, you do need the clutch to downshift, and still need it for 5th and 6th gear, but 1-4 you can get away with it, but it is less harmful if you still use the clutch but for racing nights on occasion, a lil clutchless shifting is ok.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TraviZ
on the first run watch, its clutchless, you do need the clutch to downshift, and still need it for 5th and 6th gear, but 1-4 you can get away with it, but it is less harmful if you still use the clutch but for racing nights on occasion, a lil clutchless shifting is ok.
Its ok if u have money to replace trannys

Lenco > all
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TraviZ
on the first run watch, its clutchless, you do need the clutch to downshift, and still need it for 5th and 6th gear, but 1-4 you can get away with it, but it is less harmful if you still use the clutch but for racing nights on occasion, a lil clutchless shifting is ok.

you dont need any modification to "rev match" would be the proper term.....


now if it was sequential with dog teeth that would be sick
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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this isnt rev matching dork, i bet thats how you race down the quarter, also would explain some sorry times.

btw who rev matches down the strip? when you pop it out of gear, i hope your not giving the engine enough time to drop in rpm to get into the next gear. lol
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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You lift, you loose.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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yup, and you aint rev matching **** if you dont take your foot off the gas.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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i like burning my clutch
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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burned clutches smell good!!!
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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That T56 video is pretty sweet.

Just fix your flexplate already lazya$$
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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i am fixing it, everything is on its way.
vin wanna help me do a fuel pump swap in a few weeks?
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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Yeah bro, I'm down for pizza and beer way out in bum fvck egypt lol

PARTY @ TRAVIZ'Z!!!
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by urbanhunter44
You lift, you loose.
Tell me bout it...less ur in the 13 second n slower lane ZING!!!!

Its funny you say that tho, last time i saw my street racin buddy Gil, has a 442, he was talkin about this crazy ol timer who was sayin the same ****. But he was like i dont care if it gets loose, ill hit both walls and still not lift
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 01:32 AM
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he isnt really womping on it in the video, he gets on it a little bit, more so putting around

lol i should make a video of my grand ma
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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i give up on you.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JesasaurusRex
Tell me bout it...less ur in the 13 second n slower lane ZING!!!!

Its funny you say that tho, last time i saw my street racin buddy Gil, has a 442, he was talkin about this crazy ol timer who was sayin the same ****. But he was like i dont care if it gets loose, ill hit both walls and still not lift
Alot of old timers are like that
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JesasaurusRex
2.9s way too steep for me, least for my car, i have to feather it w/ my T-5. Id like a 2.5-2-1.5-1 or atleast close to that. The Muncie was bad ***
2.52-1.88-1.46-1 or even 2.20-1.64-1.28-1. But none of them can handle any power, I wouldnt even consider something w/ a first gear close to a 3.0 anymore. 2.5ish seems like it would be nice for my car.
94+ T56's are 2.66, 1.78, 1.30, 1.00, 0.74, 0.50.. I had a 4.10 on my car and now I'm going to be running a 3.73. Of course my car isn't a dedicated drag car, it will see the strip but it's mainly a street car. Autos rule for consistency in drag racing but I don't think they are nearly as fun or really make for a well rounded car. To each his own.

Also, T56's can usually be fixed pretty inexpensively, depending on what breaks. They really aren't that tough to remove or to take apart and put back together. There are also tons of upgraded parts for them.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy_84_F41
94+ T56's are 2.66, 1.78, 1.30, 1.00, 0.74, 0.50.. I had a 4.10 on my car and now I'm going to be running a 3.73. Of course my car isn't a dedicated drag car, it will see the strip but it's mainly a street car. Autos rule for consistency in drag racing but I don't think they are nearly as fun or really make for a well rounded car. To each his own.

Also, T56's can usually be fixed pretty inexpensively, depending on what breaks. They really aren't that tough to remove or to take apart and put back together. There are also tons of upgraded parts for them.
huh...you're right, i guess i was lookin at the 93 ratios...still dont see it being cost effective tho. 1 not strong enough, 2 still need to lift to shift (dont need to but that goes back to #1) ,3 not as consistant.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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I don't know how fast your car is but I've read about a lot of fast cars on stock T56's.. and you can always upgrade to Viper internals. I don't really know what the hot ticket is for aftermarket transmissions since I plan on keeping my T56 until it is no longer fixable (cracked case?) and haven't researched them. Mine still doesn't have as much as a grind or a whine to it, although honestly I've never powershifted it.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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the viper internals are the way to go.

i seen videos of 1700hp vipers running 8's on stock t-56's
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 12:36 AM
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ya doesnt take much i beat the living **** out of mine i shift it so hard lol its fun

only difference between mine and a vipers is the tailshaft is not 30 teeth,

its the carbon fibre retainer rings, steel keeys, steel 3-4 shift fork, blah blah blah lots more

with my exact build ive seen it run 9 secons consitently beat on

than again thats why my swap was 4K
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TraviZ
the viper internals are the way to go.

i seen videos of 1700hp vipers running 8's on stock t-56's
But they still wind up having 7 second traps, which is stupid imo

i hate my 11.1 w/ a low 10 sec trap
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