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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Car: 92RS 25th Anniv./88 IROC Z28 Vert
Engine: 305 TBI w/Tpi Air / 305 TPI
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Need someone to do a winter modification for me...

Well I know it is June but I know what my major modification for this winter is. I want to put rear disc brakes on and remove the drums. So I will probably buy a rear from Denny (LFN AT U). And since the axel will be gone I might as well have the gas tank dropped and replace the fuel pump (upgrade) since it has never been done. Although I am not having problems with the fuel pump replacing it with a better one should buy me another 15 years.

Any suggestions on which rear to install? The one out of an IROC or a 91-92? Is there a difference?

Any suggestions on fuel pumps? Which model / brand should I get?

Anyone with experience doing this that wants to make a few bucks? I plan on parking my car Nov. 1st. Would like to do the swap before Thanksgiving if possible. If not then after the holidays.
If this is something you can do for me please post here or pmail me.

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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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Re: Need someone to do a winter modification for me...

'89 and up rear end for sure so you get PBR calipers.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Car: 92RS 25th Anniv./88 IROC Z28 Vert
Engine: 305 TBI w/Tpi Air / 305 TPI
Transmission: 700r4/700r4
Axle/Gears: Posi
Re: Need someone to do a winter modification for me...

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'89 and up rear end for sure so you get PBR calipers.
PBR caliburs? Those are...???

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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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Re: Need someone to do a winter modification for me...

cal-i-per.

PBR calipers are aluminum and actually work. Earlier steel calipers (Saginaw?) have a bad habit of not working.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Car: 92RS 25th Anniv./88 IROC Z28 Vert
Engine: 305 TBI w/Tpi Air / 305 TPI
Transmission: 700r4/700r4
Axle/Gears: Posi
Re: Need someone to do a winter modification for me...

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cal-i-per.

PBR calipers are aluminum and actually work. Earlier steel calipers (Saginaw?) have a bad habit of not working.
sorry about the spelling. I know what or how it is pronounced. Sometimes I don't really worry about perfect grammer on the I-net like I should. But I figure there will always be someone to correct it.

As far as the calipers go no one would still have the Early steel ones on their cars right? Most people would be using an aftermarket one at this point. So do we ask for aluminum calipers when we repair or are they still selling steel ones?
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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Re: Need someone to do a winter modification for me...

Yep, the early ones are still around. I was thinking about it earlier and they're actually iron, not steel, and they're Delco-Morainne [sp?], not Saginaw.

They have a different caliper bracket and bolt spacing. I believe they were 10.5" discs instead of the ~12" for the PBRs. You have to ask for whatever setup you have when you get parts.

Most people aren't using aftermarket calipers, unless you consider remanufactured ones aftermarket. Aftermarket to me is Wilwood, Strange, Brembo, etc. If you look at aftermarket kits, make sure you get one that's designed like the PBRs with sliders/guide pins so that the caliper can move. Fixed calipers don't really have a place on a C-clip rearend in my opinion.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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From: Somewhere around the South Side of Chicago just crusin' in one of the Niteriders
Car: 92RS 25th Anniv./88 IROC Z28 Vert
Engine: 305 TBI w/Tpi Air / 305 TPI
Transmission: 700r4/700r4
Axle/Gears: Posi
Re: Need someone to do a winter modification for me...

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Yep, the early ones are still around. I was thinking about it earlier and they're actually iron, not steel, and they're Delco-Morainne [sp?], not Saginaw.

They have a different caliper bracket and bolt spacing. I believe they were 10.5" discs instead of the ~12" for the PBRs. You have to ask for whatever setup you have when you get parts.

Most people aren't using aftermarket calipers, unless you consider remanufactured ones aftermarket. Aftermarket to me is Wilwood, Strange, Brembo, etc. If you look at aftermarket kits, make sure you get one that's designed like the PBRs with sliders/guide pins so that the caliper can move. Fixed calipers don't really have a place on a C-clip rearend in my opinion.
Interesting. I just redid my brakes, pads and roters but the calipurs were fine. I wonder what I have on my car. nape, how can I tell by just taking my wheels off and looking at them?
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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Re: Need someone to do a winter modification for me...

As for your fuel pump. I have replaced three of themm and let me tell you it doesn't become more fun the next time lol. The filler neck on the gas tank does not always like to come out. As far as pumps all of the pumpas are made by walbro so just search only for the best price. you should be able to find one for under 130 if you looka little. The other way you can go is to order one that comes with the wirning upgrade with it liek the kit from Racetronix so when you make more power down the road you have enough voltage to power your pump.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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Car: 92RS 25th Anniv./88 IROC Z28 Vert
Engine: 305 TBI w/Tpi Air / 305 TPI
Transmission: 700r4/700r4
Axle/Gears: Posi
Re: Need someone to do a winter modification for me...

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As for your fuel pump. I have replaced three of themm and let me tell you it doesn't become more fun the next time lol. The filler neck on the gas tank does not always like to come out. As far as pumps all of the pumpas are made by walbro so just search only for the best price. you should be able to find one for under 130 if you looka little. The other way you can go is to order one that comes with the wirning upgrade with it liek the kit from Racetronix so when you make more power down the road you have enough voltage to power your pump.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Transmission: Richmond T-10
Axle/Gears: Floater 9" - 3.64 gears
Re: Need someone to do a winter modification for me...

Steel calipers will get rusty. They might have a Zinc wash from the factory, but don't count on it. Aluminum calipers will always be a dull grey, unless they're old and have been exposed to Midwest salt and they might get a little powdery white looking if they aren't covered in brake dust.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Re: Need someone to do a winter modification for me...

Originally Posted by 86NiteRider
Thanks
No problem. Also a side note it is good to have an aftermarket exhaust that comes a part in sections to simplfy trying to drop the enitre catback.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Car: 92RS 25th Anniv./88 IROC Z28 Vert
Engine: 305 TBI w/Tpi Air / 305 TPI
Transmission: 700r4/700r4
Axle/Gears: Posi
Re: Need someone to do a winter modification for me...

I have Flowmaster 40 series with Hi flow cat, 3 : pipes front to back. Just need to add those headers.
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