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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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DIY PROM Tuning

Not sure if anyone else thats coming to the fest is into PROM tuning but I am planning on bringing my stuff (laptop, autoprom....) I though it would be a good chance to get together with other people and learn some more about it. Im very new to it still so Im eager to talk with anyone else that has gotten into it to see if there is anything I am missing.
Old May 7, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Old May 8, 2006 | 01:56 AM
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I'm always willing to.

I'm not going to spend the day doing it however :-)

I'm sure there are more of us.

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Old May 8, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Oh yeah I don't plan on spending the day programing my car or anyone elses. I was thinking more along the lines of tips and tricks or things that people have figured out that might not be comon knowledge.
Old May 10, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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I'm suprised no one else has chimed in?

I think a few of the guys from my board are bringing there gear too.

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Old May 14, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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I am very interested in Prom burning. Don't know much about it, but would like to change that.
Old May 17, 2006 | 03:27 AM
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I'll be bringing my stuff. laptop, new EBL setup, burner, all that good stuff. I gotta show off the WUD hah
Old May 17, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 3.8TransAM
I'm suprised no one else has chimed in?

I think a few of the guys from my board are bringing there gear too.

later
Jeremy
I have plenty to say just nothing good... Well.. ok... Im just frustrated because my prominator failed a couple of days after I installed it. I want to bring my car but its running rich with the stock prom. I was hoping to get some tunning in, before I go, to straighten it out enough to feel confident for the drive.

Its very responsive, runs strong and will probably be fine for this drive with the stock prom but i just dont like doing things half ***. I havent driven the car since i took it out. Dont get me wrong, Bill at SPEEDTRONICS is a great guy and is taking care of me... its just bad timing regarding where I want to be when I go to the fest.

BTW Jeremy... bring the tailights and I will give you the cash for them at the fest.
See you there one way or another.
Old May 17, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chickenhawk
I have plenty to say just nothing good... Well.. ok... Im just frustrated because my prominator failed a couple of days after I installed it. I want to bring my car but its running rich with the stock prom. I was hoping to get some tunning in, before I go, to straighten it out enough to feel confident for the drive.

Its very responsive, runs strong and will probably be fine for this drive with the stock prom but i just dont like doing things half ***. I havent driven the car since i took it out. Dont get me wrong, Bill at SPEEDTRONICS is a great guy and is taking care of me... its just bad timing regarding where I want to be when I go to the fest.

BTW Jeremy... bring the tailights and I will give you the cash for them at the fest.
See you there one way or another.
That's interesting that your prominator failed. Mine failed also shortly after I got it. I resoldered and messed with it for a long time. I finally gave up on it and bought a burner and some chips, that thing made me almost throw the ECM out the window.
Old May 17, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BronYrAur
That's interesting that your prominator failed. Mine failed also shortly after I got it. I resoldered and messed with it for a long time. I finally gave up on it and bought a burner and some chips, that thing made me almost throw the ECM out the window.
Hmmm interesting... I havent heard of any widespread problems with it and thats why i bought it.

What did you do? Did you ask for a refund? I am curious why you started resoldering it. Was this per a request from Bill that you try to resolder?
Old May 17, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chickenhawk
Hmmm interesting... I havent heard of any widespread problems with it and thats why i bought it.

What did you do? Did you ask for a refund? I am curious why you started resoldering it. Was this per a request from Bill that you try to resolder?
Well, I had it soldered by a uncle of mine that does a lot of soldering, and it always worked kind of sketchy. So we checked all the solders and they were all perfect, but we redid a few just in case but it would only really work if you pushed down on the prominator. Otherwise I would get a code 51 prom error. I ended up not taking it up with him because then my heater core leaked coolant in when I had the ECM down and coolant ran down the wires and I think burned out the ECM. So I just said screw it, I'm not screwing with the thing any longer, so i got a spare ECM had the EBL installed and got a Flash n Burn.

Basically, it just never worked like it was supposed to, and believe me the solders were checked many mny times. So, I dont really know what the problem was.
Old May 22, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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Okay I'm bringing my gear.

Now I'm not gonna say I said so, but the best tuning philosophy from PROM tuining is : "Keep it simple stupid = KISS"

Get a burner and do it one chip at a time, especially when you are new.

One thing at a time, lots of notes and then another change.

Too many people get caught up in real time or bin flipping and dont get inot the nitty grity nasty stuff like figuring something else out thats wrong ro not a defined parameter and not ficking the code etc.

Burners usually dont break too often and if u do one change at a time it makes it simpler.

I will advocate Racuhers EBL, he makes a good design and has some serioulsy great idears.

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Jeremy
Old May 22, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 3.8TransAM
Okay I'm bringing my gear.

Now I'm not gonna say I said so, but the best tuning philosophy from PROM tuining is : "Keep it simple stupid = KISS"

Get a burner and do it one chip at a time, especially when you are new.

One thing at a time, lots of notes and then another change.

Too many people get caught up in real time or bin flipping and dont get inot the nitty grity nasty stuff like figuring something else out thats wrong ro not a defined parameter and not ficking the code etc.

Burners usually dont break too often and if u do one change at a time it makes it simpler.

I will advocate Racuhers EBL, he makes a good design and has some serioulsy great idears.

later
Jeremy
Thats the method that I have been taking so far. So far I have burned 3 chips:

First one I switched to an 89 bin for an L98 Auto car with the same gears as mine. and the 6E code. I turned off all the Torque converter stuff and turned on the manual trans flag.

Chip 2 I used the compare feature to find some more things that needed to be switched for the manual trans.

Chip 3 used the methods from one of the stickies to turn off the EGR.

Thats what Im running now, I havent started messing with anything else yet, I just wanted to get it running without codes before I started messing with anything else.
Old May 24, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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