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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Car: 89 rs
Engine: 355
Transmission: th350
Axle/Gears: 4.56 posi
my 60' should be better, right?

finally took my wifes car to the track..with no tuning & short-shifting at 5500 or so, launching off idle, on street tires (which hooked) times were:
1/8th...8.75
60'.....2.05
mph...83.4
only got three runs (got there late) 2200 stall instead of 3500 (lunched), but everything else in sig the same. i've seen slower cars with a better 60'?
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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Car: 86 firebird with 98 firebird interi
Engine: pump gas 427sbc Dart Lil M 13.5:1
Transmission: Oldani TH400 w/ BTE 9" convertor
Axle/Gears: 31 spline Moser/full spool/4.11Rich
with tht cam ideally for track performance you need a 42-4400 stall and more gear out back.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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Car: 89 rs
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according to lunati, the rpm range of the cam is 3200-6800, but i have'nt called them for convertor recommendations. you could be right, but we drive the car everyday, & i don't think we could live with a 4500 stall.

.....might just have to hook the n2o up & see what happens?
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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Car: 86 firebird with 98 firebird interi
Engine: pump gas 427sbc Dart Lil M 13.5:1
Transmission: Oldani TH400 w/ BTE 9" convertor
Axle/Gears: 31 spline Moser/full spool/4.11Rich
Common misconception about convertors, most people think that high of a stall rating dictates that you need to be at that rpm to move....false. I have a 4600 10" TCI unit in my car....actually flashes to 5000 on the hit. The car idles all day at 850rpm, pulls away from stop signs/red lights around 1500 just like a daily driver.

If your cam was in the low 230 duration both sides that convertor you have now would work great, but your much higher-actually alot higher than a daily driver typically gets so you either accept the fact your gonna be a turtle out of the hole and have the top end charge of a fat girl chasisn cake downhill, or get the right gear/convertor to complement your engines specs.
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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o.k., went back to the track last night. dismall times.... best of 8.83 @ 82.34 mph, 2.07 60'....and that was on the first run!...car went away from there...feels like the trans is starting to slip. perfect time to upgrade the convertor!! the trans was never that stronf to begin with. maybe i'll go ahead and up the rear gears to 4.11, too. also had some serious wheel hop issues (that's what i get for racing with stock suspension!! ) going to pick up some tubular lca's & relocators this week, then we'll try again!

by the way, IHI, how does that jegs t-arm work? obviously pretty well with those times, but would you recommend it?

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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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Car: 86 firebird with 98 firebird interi
Engine: pump gas 427sbc Dart Lil M 13.5:1
Transmission: Oldani TH400 w/ BTE 9" convertor
Axle/Gears: 31 spline Moser/full spool/4.11Rich
The jegster tq arm works great, could'nt be happier with it and would/do recommend it.

The wheel hop is a tire issue-i ran 1.7x with a completely stock 120,000 mile suspension for 2 years with no problems thanks to sticky tires, do yourself a huge favor that will save you time and money so you can save up for worth while investments. Just get some sticky tires, weather drag radials or bias ply, bias ply are what I recommend since they work great with chasis not tuned 110% perfect.

The stock suspension will hold and hook alot of power, heck Charlie (10.90streetcar) is running bottom 10's on his stock stuff to give you an idea of how well it can work....tires tires tires are the biggest thing right now for you even with the crappy 60's eventually you will tune/mod to faster times, and you'll have to have the tires to stick it.

Dont over gear/convertor your car for the motor your using. If you know eventually in the very short term future going to make major changes, then make sure if you buy the convertor/tire size your new motors cam will match it rpm wise to keep you in the power band. Otherwise using 4.11 gears with a 26" tire is going to have you running out of breath waaay before the finish line si it wont be good for street or strip. Take a look at the big picture before investing alot of money....especially when investing money into these stock junker rear ends...which IMO going through 4 of them is the biggest waste of money.
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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thanks for the feedback IHI. the local tracks are all 1/8th mile tho, so 4.10's shouldn't put me too far in the revs IMO. right now, w/ 3.73's, shifting at 6500 i never even hit 3rd! good tires are definitely on my short list!!currently have 28" tall tires on the car, street rubber, and it's getting thin! i'll probably try to work on getting the car consistent before i start adding anymore power, but i,m getting an itchy nitrous finger
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 01:09 AM
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From: Waterloo, Iowa
Car: 86 firebird with 98 firebird interi
Engine: pump gas 427sbc Dart Lil M 13.5:1
Transmission: Oldani TH400 w/ BTE 9" convertor
Axle/Gears: 31 spline Moser/full spool/4.11Rich
How much do you plan to juice? you need to keep an rpm window open cuz when you hit the go baby go button your going to far exceed any rpm limit your hitting now N/A.

How often do you hit 1/4mi tracks? 28" tires and 4.10/4.11 gears is a pretty standard combination for MANY so it should work well for you if you go that route, if nothing else, 3.73's are'nt that much lower and it will help convertor to flash a little higher so dont rule them out just yet...
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 02:20 AM
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From: defuniak springs, fl
Car: 89 rs
Engine: 355
Transmission: th350
Axle/Gears: 4.56 posi
planning on 125-150 shot (cheater). the nearest 1/4 mile track to me is ennis (texas motorplex), about 2 hrs. away. but there are two 1/8 mile tracks within an hour, so i'll mostly be going there. don't own a trailer, it's strictly drive it there & pray!!

tow vehicle=1990 honda accord & a strap!!

i picked up another 3rd gen today, came w/ 4.56 geared 10-bolt, eaton posi, moser axles, t/a rear cover (w/ stud girdles), boxed lca's....too bad it's a t-top car....bodies in good shape, & it might become a new home for my sb 400, or donor for the other car

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