Project

I went to the track last night, and saw all the street cars goin at it. A lot of fun, but LOTS of turbo mustangs that did not run consistant. Fastest was a 7.57, same guy ran a 8.22 the next run, and a 7.91 the next. He was in the street class, but was running ET Drags, and was a trailered ?

My whole idea of what is fast for a street car is based on 1/4 and not 1/8, so I was confused and couldn't figure out what was actually fast to me.

Saw a Monte Carlo S/S with a chip and exhaust pull consistant 11's in the 1/8 (why even try?)

No imports, but lots of 4th gens in the high 8's and mid 9's.

motorcycles were running low 7's for the most part...

Anyone explain to me what a 12 second 1/4 is in 1/8 mile time? geez

AlkyIROC

1/8 mile time multiply by 1.56 gives a very close 1/4 mile time.

That 7.57 works out to an 11.8 and the 8.22 is only a 12.8. Both would be fast for a street car but I wouldn't consider it being a street car unless it could be daily driven on pump gas or driven across the country without the need for backup assistance.

84firebird383

My opinion of an entry level fast car that could double as a daily driver would be somewhere in the 7s for the 1/8th and 11's in the 1/4.12 and 13 second daily drivers are still quick,but there are so many of them that I don't really consider it "fast" any more,just quick.Even 11's isnt that hard to do and still be daily drivable. It just costs a bit more.

Orr89RocZ

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yeah fast street car to me is one that touches 120+ in the 1/4mile. the 1/8 that would be high 80's and into the 90 mph range. thats a real fast street car. those are your bolt on pullied cobras, your cammed LS1's with full bolt ons and mild ls1's with spray, etc. a decently fast street car is 110-119mph to me.

et's dont realy matter to me as most street races are rolls and only mph applies. ET's are very impressive but your best et's are not gonna be in street trim. most guys run slicks or drag radials at the track and switch over to street tires on the street. a fast street car is one that can achieve those above times on street tires, street trim. granted drag radials are street tires and do somewhat alright on wear, but not the best in all conditions like handling and rain which a street car must deal with on occasion, in my book.

IHI

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I share the same opinon myself and then it also depends on where your located too. I consider my car a street car since that's the way I built it and drive it, just added some race things to be competative, anyways, around here for cars that actually cruise/street drive I'm in the fast top 5...naturally aspirated. When going power adder I get my azz handed to me at all the street night events with the NOZZ guys all running low 10's.

now take my times to the Jersey area, Chi town, etc and it's a pooch...and you'd better be packin some low single digits if you think you've got a fast street car.

There will always be a debate about what a "true street car is" I say if it's DOT legal, licsenced, insured, pump gas operated going through the pipes...it's legal. DOT slicks are just a performance upgrade or different avenue IMO, no different than installing an MSD ignition. Both are race inspired but toally street legal-so where do you draw the line....it'll never happen so just have fun

Project

single digit "street" cars? What?

Orr89RocZ

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fastest pump gas drags from Hot rod magazine... most cars in the mid 8's in teh 1/4 mile. and most no slower than high 9's

xpndbl3

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around chicago by me if you're not running single digits, solidly in the 9s then you won't want to race a lot of cars that show up on a saturday night on the south side. I wouldn't even come close to being competitive with most of the hondas that show up looking for street races around here. Of course everyone's definition of "street" car varies, all these cars are plated and insured, so that's all i see the need to argue for. Scary thing is....most of these cars drive to and from the race with no issues whatsoever.

Free Bird

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check sig, no need for a trailer, and the closest track is 1.5 hours away from me. When I spray, it should go low 10's. But on spray, it's not a "street car".....

onefast85

low 6's or high 5's is fast to me...but i live on the ragged edge and run race fuel on the street..not legal but i can drive it on the street just cost alot.my 85 ran 5.70's at 125 and 8.90's at 154.

the trend i have seen is the more money you make and spend on your the less actual "streetlegal"means to you.alot depends on the crowd you run with also ..most of my friends cars run 5's and they still drive them on the street...but not everyday.

no matter what the cars run,it is all about the rush you get when mashing it to the floor..

Free Bird

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race gas is for race cars. And slapping a license plate on a race car doesn't make it a "street" car. If they can't drive it to the track, race it and drive it home w/o changing anything but tire pressure, then it's not exactly a street car.

Pullin it off the trailer, making a 8 second blast and popping the chutte just to pull it back on the trailer, is a trailer queen.

onefast85

who said we don't do that?several of th guys run the races where yoiu have to make a 25mile cruise and make 3 passes with out popping the hood and run times in the 8's...so if you don't know someone,don't presume you know anything about them.my is a street car with the full interior and a thump system and weighs more than yours.

i have a racecar also..and it runs 7.90's at 3450lbs so suck on that.

Free Bird

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I don't care what you have. A 25 mile cruise doesn't make it a street car either.

Drive thru please.

84firebird383

I agree with you completelty Freebird,but there are some very fast true street cars around.There is a Lightning pick up that runs at my local track that runs 9's and doubles as the guys work truck and is never trailord.There is also a very streetable 66 chevy 2 with a mild 496 that runs 11.0's on the motor and sprays into the 8s.There is even a 79 crazy insane transam that has run hi 7's on a 10" tire with a procharged 540 that is rumored to be quite streetable.I know I saw him drive it to the track at least once.

Orr89RocZ

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lingenfelter new C6 twin turbo put out 1080hp while spinning on the dyno....

that is VERY streetable. you can drive that all day to and fro whereever you want and should get somewhat decent mileage as long as u stay outta boost, yet has enough power to get 9's and probly 8's if set up right. trap speed is tremendous! well over 140's... thats really fast

the fastest street car that i know of today was Marco's Supra.. that made 1100rwhp on pump gas and over 1500 on race gas.

it ran 8.45 at 162 if i recall....in the 1/4mile of course at the 1100rwhp setting. crazy insane. full interior, etc.. a TRUE street car.

onefast85

your just another kid who can't see beyong what you own...someday you will mature.

xpndbl3

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marco's supra has been very incredible to watch on the street getting down around chitown. definately a street car, yet he has more money tied into that car developing a system that works and stays in one piece than most of us has in our house.

Orr89RocZ

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yep, never said its gonna be cheap... to have a combo like that you need absolute best quality and strength. that means mucho dinero. someday i hope to dump a ton of cash into my ride to make it a true unique one of a kind monsterous street car

Free Bird

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Good job on backing up your previous post w/ hard evidence of 8 second cars driving to the track and running on pump gas. I'm growing tired of your posts.

Orr89RocZ

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again, check the hot rod pump gas drags.. dont need to back up with evidence as its out there... there are a lot of 8 second pump gas cars that can drive well on the street

84firebird383

Just out of curiosity.Why do you think a car on the bottle is anyless a street car?Does that mean any car with any other type of boost like a supercharger or turbo arent street cars just because of their adder?

onefast85

you just showed i was right....some day you will learn to respect what you can't understand now.

daverr

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if your car has brake lights, turn signal, headlights,and a muffler than u can drive your car on the street.There is no requirement on distance it could travel to be street legal.


yours comments on race gas, trailers,and chutes is just plain whinning to me.

Thirdgen89GTA

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What about Sheps' 8 second talon?
http://www.dsmtimes.org/shepherd/8.55@176.9.mpg
http://vids.torquenstein.net/imv/ShepherdRacing.wmv

Its street legal, though I don't know if its much fun to drive on the street. And I don't think it gets good gas mileage.

83 Crossfire TA

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dyno numbers with tires spinning are worthless… the problem is that while they’re spinning the rollers will be trying to catch up at times and at times the tires might be accelerating faster then the rollers. When the rollers are catching up it spikes the numbers letting not that impressive a car spike some really impressive numbers (I’m not saying that the lingenfelter setup doesn’t work, just any numbers on a run that the tires were spinning are probably more worthless then just a rough estimate “oh, at this boost we should be making about XXX hp…”)

that was the second year in, and even the magazine editors were debating how much of a real street car the top runners really were.

The fact is that there is always going to be a gap between what fits assorted street car class rules at the track and what you’d actually have fun successfully driving around on the street.

There are some <11 second cars that are realistic for street use, but nowhere near the numbers that all the street car classes out there lead you to believe

James Davis

My stock 2000 GMC Jimmy runs consistent 10.6's. which is quick for a stock v6, but if you want any improvement in time on a third gen, a good intake manifold can help a ton. Maybe 20-30 HP.

BigDogBob

New record for oldest thread resurrected?

Orr89RocZ

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QwkTrip

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It's always done by a newbie too.