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Old Apr 8, 2001 | 05:36 PM
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talon/eclipse,300zx,supra,prelude questions

all of these come trbo charged i dont know about the prelude since i dont really care for honda too much but i am looking for some numbers on these cars stock and what you have seen like 1/4 mile times horsepower ratings and torque ratings these are the imports i see alot of and am wondering their abilities thanks.
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Old Apr 8, 2001 | 08:10 PM
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Supras and 300zx are the quickest out of all you named. Stock supras and 300s run mid 13s. I have seen it with my own eyes and I have a few road tests. 13.5 for both of them was actually the most common. Some owners at www.twinturbo.net are getting 13.3 all stock, even stock boost for the 300. Just for info, with an aftermarket air filter...my uncle got a 0-60 of 4.9 seconds in his 300zx tt. 5.1 stock.
The older supras are fairly quick . I've seen them run anywhere from 14.3, to 14.9. The older 300zx turbos are usually high 14/low 15 second cars.

The newer Supras are considered the fastest of the jap supercars by many ignorant sideliners. However,90-95 300z is just as capable (if not more capable) of being up there with the Supra. The 300zxs drivetrain can support up to 800hp and it is being done.

Preludes are low 15 to mid 15 cars, no forced induction.

Eclipses and Talons are low 15 high 14 second cars. 13s with basic bolt ons and higher boost.

As you can see, the only guys you can really compete with are the preludes and talons (if theyre stock). There is even a guy on this site running 11.9s with his eclipse/talon



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Old Apr 8, 2001 | 11:11 PM
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i am not looking to race one of these guys i would've raced him already if that was the case i am just curious at the numbers to see what i am looking at. thanks
Shawn
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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 09:50 AM
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i dont know about those cars but the RX7 turbo 2. they have like 190HP and 182FT of torque. my friend has one and he pulls on me slightly if i had a five speed, it would be different, we would be even

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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 10:07 AM
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Dont know their quarter mile times but i destroyed each and every one of them with my 71' Duster(not that anyone cares) and i run 12.30's

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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 07:05 PM
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88firebirdtbi i think the 300zx and the supra are faster. you say you hang with your friends rx-7?? i have heard they(300zx,supra) run 13's stock the 90-95 years i think. correct me if i am wrong. i saw a 300gt (mitishbishi) fly bye me today in the oposite lane and it sounded like it had a turbo do these cars come with turbos too?so many turbos
Shawn

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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 07:50 PM
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yes it comes with turbos infact twin turbos. Only the vr4 3000gt. None the less the japanese morons put 9:5:1 compression on these motors giving i believe 5lbs of boost.

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92' camaro
New 305 block TPI conversion, Flat top pistons,Bore over .30 Forged parts all around,Edelbrock intake,ported plennum,ported corvette alluminum heads, accel cam,52mm throttle bodie, SLP runners Home aid cold air induction, Air foil,ford SVO 19lb injectors,fuel regulator,cloys timing chain, comp alluminum roller rocker arms and pushrods MSD 8.5 mm wires, bosch plattinum plugs, hypertech cap & rotor and coil, Edelbrock TES headers, free flowing catalytic converter and a 3 inch force II flowmaster exhaust system, and a 3 inch cutout,Zoom multi friction clutch, T-5 tranny,billenstien shocks&struts.
Soon to come!!!
Procharger system 12lbs o boost.
New paint job(hawaiin orchid purple)Cast alluminum ZR1 rims w/ 275 tires.
Favorite quote: "where ever u go, there u are"

Other car;
1971 plymouth Duster
Mods:340,edelbrock victor jr. intake, 650 4 barrel holley, heddman headers,40 series dual flowmasters, cold air intake,4:10 gears, just got a new paint job and cragar rims with 315 tires in the back.
:Yeah its not a chevy but damn how many 71' dusters have u seen in the streets.
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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 10:40 PM
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order of greatness with the Jap super cars
1 SupraTT/ 300zxTT
2 Rx7 T
3 3000gt vr4 TT
4 Talon T/ Eclipse T
5 all others
and somewhere in between are such cars as the lexuses and infinitys they are like the big Mercedes and bemmers fast as hell but very luxurious so they arent considered sports cars. the 3000gt was the only one with a back seat in the top three. so naturally it was the heaviest and slowest, but its also the one that lasted the longest. the RX7 is a very fast car but more suited to road racing than drag racing unless modified. and i believe they may have been twin turboed but i am not sure. just watch out for the top two in stock trim and the eclipse is very popular and capable of fast times. TINFY
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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 11:24 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by vortech305:
yes it comes with turbos infact twin turbos. Only the vr4 3000gt. None the less the japanese morons put 9:5:1 compression on these motors giving i believe 5lbs of boost.

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You are so misinformed. The 3000GT utilized 8.0:1 compression with around 11lbs of boost from 94 on.


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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 11:27 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TINFY Racing:
order of greatness with the Jap super cars
1 SupraTT/ 300zxTT
2 Rx7 T
3 3000gt vr4 TT
4 Talon T/ Eclipse T
5 all others
and somewhere in between are such cars as the lexuses and infinitys they are like the big Mercedes and bemmers fast as hell but very luxurious so they arent considered sports cars. the 3000gt was the only one with a back seat in the top three. so naturally it was the heaviest and slowest, but its also the one that lasted the longest. the RX7 is a very fast car but more suited to road racing than drag racing unless modified. and i believe they may have been twin turboed but i am not sure. just watch out for the top two in stock trim and the eclipse is very popular and capable of fast times. TINFY
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That's a great list, I agree totally.
One thing though, the Supra tt was a 2+2 as well as the VR4/Stealth tt.

Part of the VR4s problem is the galant/diamante mix it got.
Still a fast car no doubt
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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 11:30 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pimpintheRS:
88firebirdtbi i think the 300zx and the supra are faster. you say you hang with your friends rx-7?? i have heard they(300zx,supra) run 13's stock the 90-95 years i think. correct me if i am wrong. i saw a 300gt (mitishbishi) fly bye me today in the oposite lane and it sounded like it had a turbo do these cars come with turbos too?so many turbos
Shawn

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I think he's referring to the 2nd generation RX7s. High 14 low 15 second cars.

By the way, the reason I told you 90-95 zs are the fast ones is because in 96 they got cam variations and computer changes. And also due to stricter emissions they lost 20hp (280hp vs the previous 300hp)

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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 12:24 AM
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I know I probably shouldnt even bring this up since we are talking about the real import threats, but I would like to know were the MX-6 (93-97)fit in with all these. Im suppose to race my friends GTZ which I already posted and now my other friends MX-6 94ish I think.
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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 12:45 AM
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if memory serves me correctly there was a forced induction version of the MX-6? Anyway it ran 7.6 to 60mph.Seems like it is more in the territory of modded TBIs and such.
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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 12:46 AM
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wait you do have a modded TBI don't you? Kick his a$$ then!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 02:33 AM
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i dont consider my tbi modded and we have basically the same stuff.
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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 09:32 AM
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I was refering to a second generation rx7. I can hang with it although i get beat. It is a low 15 to high 14 second car stock.

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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 09:35 AM
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theformula,

Not sure about the MX-6, but the first generation of Probe GTs did have a turboed 4.

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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 11:43 AM
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I stand corrected

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New 305 block TPI conversion, Flat top pistons,Bore over .30 Forged parts all around,Edelbrock intake,ported plennum,ported corvette alluminum heads, accel cam,52mm throttle bodie, SLP runners Home aid cold air induction, Air foil,ford SVO 19lb injectors,fuel regulator,cloys timing chain, comp alluminum roller rocker arms and pushrods MSD 8.5 mm wires, bosch plattinum plugs, hypertech cap & rotor and coil, Edelbrock TES headers, free flowing catalytic converter and a 3 inch force II flowmaster exhaust system, and a 3 inch cutout,Zoom multi friction clutch, T-5 tranny,billenstien shocks&struts.
Soon to come!!!
Procharger system 12lbs o boost.
New paint job(hawaiin orchid purple)Cast alluminum ZR1 rims w/ 275 tires.
Favorite quote: "where ever u go, there u are"

Other car;
1971 plymouth Duster
Mods:340,edelbrock victor jr. intake, 650 4 barrel holley, heddman headers,40 series dual flowmasters, cold air intake,4:10 gears, just got a new paint job and cragar rims with 315 tires in the back.
:Yeah its not a chevy but damn how many 71' dusters have u seen in the streets.
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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 04:08 PM
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I would agree with everyone with the 300ZXTT, but most people underestimate those waaaayyyy too much, i hang out on a nissan board too, (because a good friend of mine has one) and some of the times those guys put out are crazy.

alot of them are running about 20-22 lbs of boost., and with about $600 you can get a stock TT to put out about 400 HP...NOT BAD.

then when you start talking about guys that REALLY like there Z, and put thousands into them, but out 650+ HP

the other thing to consider about the Z is the HICAS stering on those, the are fast at the quarter mile, but try to catch a Z from about 45 on... and the handleing is crazy on a Z, (all four wheels turn)
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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 09:55 PM
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I know that I could beat him. He just got this car and doesnt even have any real car experience. I know now that he has the 2.5V6 rated at about 164hp but with the auto trans. He is stock right now but for sure he is going to mod it up later so its going to get fun and dangerous for me. For now I just want to make sure that this begginer will not embarass me this weekend!

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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 11:02 PM
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there is a forced induction motor on the mx-6 and i have raced one recently just forgot about it... i killed him off the jump i guess he didnt know how to jump with a turbo but he started pulling on me at the top which surprised me. we have to race again because i didnt floor the car so you should beat him easy.
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removed rear hood seal.. runs much cooler i liked
accel cap and rotor..not a real mod
coming soon 3.42's with slp posi.. my first big mod!!!

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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 11:39 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dewey316:
I would agree with everyone with the 300ZXTT, but most people underestimate those waaaayyyy too much, i hang out on a nissan board too, (because a good friend of mine has one) and some of the times those guys put out are crazy.

alot of them are running about 20-22 lbs of boost., and with about $600 you can get a stock TT to put out about 400 HP...NOT BAD.

then when you start talking about guys that REALLY like there Z, and put thousands into them, but out 650+ HP

the other thing to consider about the Z is the HICAS stering on those, the are fast at the quarter mile, but try to catch a Z from about 45 on... and the handleing is crazy on a Z, (all four wheels turn)
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I agree. I've had the opportunity to drive my uncles 3 300zx tts. One of them is stage 4. Boy does that thing move. Stage 4 is barely any mods if I'm correct. Boost controller, intake,catback. They usually hit mid 12s / low 12s with that setup. The guys with 18lbs of boost or more usually run bigger injectors. I love those cars! Every part of that car is top notch. They rejected over 700 designs for the seats while making the 2nd gen 300zx! My car is faster, but damn it does not have the finesse, handling,features,or looks of one of those babies!

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