Ouch....
I pissed off a ~30 year old Hispanic in a soccer game. I was reffing and his had been trouble almost all game. Anyway, he had a yellow card that coulda been a red, but I let it slide (yellow=caution, red=ejection, two yellows make a red), and then w/ about 12 minutes left in he game he goes a pretty hard foul from behind on a guy. Woulda yellow carded anyone for that, but it was his second yellow so I showed him the yellow card, then the red card. As I was putting the card away I saw movement then a flash fo flesh color and some pain. It knocked me back about a step, then I took a knee and blew for the end of the game.
2 hours in the ER, 4 stiches, one police report and 3 days later is what you see
2 hours in the ER, 4 stiches, one police report and 3 days later is what you see
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Doug,
This really chaps my hide to no end. I have enough of the "Hispanic" **** in CA, that’s why I moved here. I was sick of there culture, sick of the state of CA ramming Spanish down my kid's throats, and sick of their spray painting every ****in thing that the dumb asses see.
Did you know that all spray paint is locked up in CA ? You cant just grab a can and buy it. Wonder why hmmm
Mexicans are good for only the fruit they pick and that’s it. If that puts them in a lower level than real Americans, then so be it.
If you cant speak English GET THE **** OUT !
Screw multiculturism in the *** , this country was built on one culture only and that was the culture who said hump everyone else, we will do it our way. And we did, in a lttle over 200 years we took nothing and made it into one kick *** nation.
"Hispanics" bring their drugs into the US (heroin, pot, and crank) and all of their freekin relatives too, and we pay for it!
It not their fault, its the immigration laws of the US. If I was in a ****ed up county like Mexico where they can only process 2/3rds of the garbage they produce, I would want to get the hell out of there too.
I’m sorry people but that’s the way I feel.
Its time to close the borders, this kind of crap will just get worse.
Im not a skinhead, but I will tell you this: Untill you spend some time in CA, you have no idea what WA is in for.
It's good you have a police report, I would arrest the ****sucker as a citizen, file charges with the DA, (assault and battery)
and start the prosecution ASAP.
You can sue him, sue the team, and sue everyone that is connected with this idiot.
Im pleased to see that you enjoy soccer to the point of participating in a judicial capacity. But from the riots and mayhem that are generated from this sport leaves me baffled and mystified.
Hope you get better Doug, If you can ID this jackass for me, I will knock the livin snot out of him. Sucker punch a crew and you will pay big time.
Don
This really chaps my hide to no end. I have enough of the "Hispanic" **** in CA, that’s why I moved here. I was sick of there culture, sick of the state of CA ramming Spanish down my kid's throats, and sick of their spray painting every ****in thing that the dumb asses see.
Did you know that all spray paint is locked up in CA ? You cant just grab a can and buy it. Wonder why hmmm
Mexicans are good for only the fruit they pick and that’s it. If that puts them in a lower level than real Americans, then so be it.
If you cant speak English GET THE **** OUT !
Screw multiculturism in the *** , this country was built on one culture only and that was the culture who said hump everyone else, we will do it our way. And we did, in a lttle over 200 years we took nothing and made it into one kick *** nation.
"Hispanics" bring their drugs into the US (heroin, pot, and crank) and all of their freekin relatives too, and we pay for it!
It not their fault, its the immigration laws of the US. If I was in a ****ed up county like Mexico where they can only process 2/3rds of the garbage they produce, I would want to get the hell out of there too.
I’m sorry people but that’s the way I feel.
Its time to close the borders, this kind of crap will just get worse.
Im not a skinhead, but I will tell you this: Untill you spend some time in CA, you have no idea what WA is in for.
It's good you have a police report, I would arrest the ****sucker as a citizen, file charges with the DA, (assault and battery)
and start the prosecution ASAP.
You can sue him, sue the team, and sue everyone that is connected with this idiot.
Im pleased to see that you enjoy soccer to the point of participating in a judicial capacity. But from the riots and mayhem that are generated from this sport leaves me baffled and mystified.
Hope you get better Doug, If you can ID this jackass for me, I will knock the livin snot out of him. Sucker punch a crew and you will pay big time.
Don
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damn man took you nearly 20 minutes to type that

I agree to a point... some are nice but its getting pretty bad in Washington ...
if you moved to Canada you'd be no better off those...
Not skinhead or racist... but enough is really enough with em...
Why you think I carry knives when I go out? I'm in no mood to fight when I go out, and in Monroe hispanics n whatnot (well hell just about everyone actually) start **** with me...
So... I'd rather draw first blood when they wanna come at me... I have no problem with it
Ask Doug what I had when we went up to Canadia, lmfao...
Glad people have floor mats hehehhee

I agree to a point... some are nice but its getting pretty bad in Washington ...
if you moved to Canada you'd be no better off those...
Not skinhead or racist... but enough is really enough with em...
Why you think I carry knives when I go out? I'm in no mood to fight when I go out, and in Monroe hispanics n whatnot (well hell just about everyone actually) start **** with me...
So... I'd rather draw first blood when they wanna come at me... I have no problem with it

Ask Doug what I had when we went up to Canadia, lmfao...
Glad people have floor mats hehehhee
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Don, I see your points, but I hold no reservations against the Hispanics of the San Carlos league.
I would never sue the team, he is not the team, and the team doesn't agree with what he did, and lots verbally expressed that to me before I went to the ER. The guy who did it probably was arrested Tuesday at work and they will be sending him to trail soon enough. I will probably get some compensation for lost wages (couldn't red my second game) and he will pay for my ER bill. I hope that is the way it works out, at least. As for soccer, he will never play in that league again, in the state he is looking at 2 to 10 years of not being able to play.
CA is very different then WA, CA has the Hispanics crammed in with everyone else. There is a pretty low % of he population this is Hispanic in WA, so it doesn't seem so overwhelming. Hell, the most I ever see are at the San Carlos league. I know a lot that grew up in WA and are just as much American as you or I. One guy from the team of the guy that hit me came up afterwards before I left and told me that he probably wasn't going to play for that team or in the league ever again because he does not want to be associated with ANYTHING like that. He is a great soccer player, too. I will go back to reffing in that league.
Second, about soccer riots and stuff, I don't think most Americans understand what soccer is to the rest of the world. It is not a sport, it is a religion. We have religious wars all the time, and to many people in other parts of the world soccer and religion are one in the same. Soccer games have started wars (Britian and Argentina I think it was). Most of the riots you see are British, and those are mostly about 8-15 years old. England was in a nice depression at the time and basically the young working class male vented about his crappy life by going and getting pissing drunk at a soccer game then start ****.
A lot of other riots at soccer games are due to other things that happen when you pack like 10,000 people into a stadium and something goes wrong (aka, fire, smoke bomb, sumfin), just that is not always what they show on "Reality" TV.
Just my thoughts,
Douglas
I would never sue the team, he is not the team, and the team doesn't agree with what he did, and lots verbally expressed that to me before I went to the ER. The guy who did it probably was arrested Tuesday at work and they will be sending him to trail soon enough. I will probably get some compensation for lost wages (couldn't red my second game) and he will pay for my ER bill. I hope that is the way it works out, at least. As for soccer, he will never play in that league again, in the state he is looking at 2 to 10 years of not being able to play.
CA is very different then WA, CA has the Hispanics crammed in with everyone else. There is a pretty low % of he population this is Hispanic in WA, so it doesn't seem so overwhelming. Hell, the most I ever see are at the San Carlos league. I know a lot that grew up in WA and are just as much American as you or I. One guy from the team of the guy that hit me came up afterwards before I left and told me that he probably wasn't going to play for that team or in the league ever again because he does not want to be associated with ANYTHING like that. He is a great soccer player, too. I will go back to reffing in that league.
Second, about soccer riots and stuff, I don't think most Americans understand what soccer is to the rest of the world. It is not a sport, it is a religion. We have religious wars all the time, and to many people in other parts of the world soccer and religion are one in the same. Soccer games have started wars (Britian and Argentina I think it was). Most of the riots you see are British, and those are mostly about 8-15 years old. England was in a nice depression at the time and basically the young working class male vented about his crappy life by going and getting pissing drunk at a soccer game then start ****.
A lot of other riots at soccer games are due to other things that happen when you pack like 10,000 people into a stadium and something goes wrong (aka, fire, smoke bomb, sumfin), just that is not always what they show on "Reality" TV.
Just my thoughts,
Douglas
Doug, Looks like i need to teach you some jujutsu!
Kind of gets old telling everyone what happened huh? When i'm trainning, I usually get one once every six weeks or so. The funny thing is that everyone who knows me, they don't even ask anymore because they know how it happen..
Anyhow, next time we hook up, I'll show ya some moves if ya want.
Kind of gets old telling everyone what happened huh? When i'm trainning, I usually get one once every six weeks or so. The funny thing is that everyone who knows me, they don't even ask anymore because they know how it happen..
Anyhow, next time we hook up, I'll show ya some moves if ya want. If, after he hit you, you still had the presence of mind to hold up a specific color card. Then you sir, are a better man then I.
I would have got out my rusty but trusty can opener and give him a generous helping of Cambells Whoopass. Just ask the dunb idiot that shot at me on my wedding anniversary. He shot at the truck I was driving, I slammed on the brakes, jumped out and chased him down. When I finally caught him I proceeded to take said gun and pounded on him 'til the cops showed up. My wife said she had never seen the look in my eyes before. I told her the jerk I beat up will never forget that look either.
Don't get me started on California.
I would have got out my rusty but trusty can opener and give him a generous helping of Cambells Whoopass. Just ask the dunb idiot that shot at me on my wedding anniversary. He shot at the truck I was driving, I slammed on the brakes, jumped out and chased him down. When I finally caught him I proceeded to take said gun and pounded on him 'til the cops showed up. My wife said she had never seen the look in my eyes before. I told her the jerk I beat up will never forget that look either.
Don't get me started on California.
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Soccer games have started wars (Britian and Argentina I think it was)</font>
Soccer games have started wars (Britian and Argentina I think it was)</font>
sorry to hear and see about that man. And as far as the hispanics, it doesn't matter where you go, for anyone who been across the border knows about our problem with the "new Canadians"
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Damn, looks rough.
Reminds me of the time I was reffing a hockey game and some guy took a swing at me..I had a different outcome tho...the guy ended up flat on his stomach stuck in the "Crippler Crossface" (for those who watch wrestling).
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Reminds me of the time I was reffing a hockey game and some guy took a swing at me..I had a different outcome tho...the guy ended up flat on his stomach stuck in the "Crippler Crossface" (for those who watch wrestling).
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Lot of harsh words here. 
The problem stems with those who want to live in America but not be American. Just like any other ethnic group, problems happen when they hold fast to their 'roots'. Many of the immigrants who came to this country in the past were very proud of being 'American' and made sure their children grew up as American as can be. Oh well, I won't go on about this but I do want to remind everyone that we are not members of a gang and some of this talk is no better then the attitude the that guy had in the first place.
AmorgetRS, I praise you for having control over your anger and pride. That's the sign of a real man.

The problem stems with those who want to live in America but not be American. Just like any other ethnic group, problems happen when they hold fast to their 'roots'. Many of the immigrants who came to this country in the past were very proud of being 'American' and made sure their children grew up as American as can be. Oh well, I won't go on about this but I do want to remind everyone that we are not members of a gang and some of this talk is no better then the attitude the that guy had in the first place.
AmorgetRS, I praise you for having control over your anger and pride. That's the sign of a real man.
Doug, I commend you for your gracious attitude towards the minority folk! You have shown true restraint and maturity! I understand many of our fellow crew members attitudes towards the mexican dude who lashed out on you! It is so easy to associate one, or a group of individuals, with a particular race and judge everyone who is of that race! That's human nature, But what makes man differnt that animal is the ability to reason. A tiger can react! And very well, but can he think and use his mind as a man? To reason and understand? I think not! Let's not be know as www.thirdgen/skinnheadcentral.com hehehe. Instead, let us take heart Doug's example. He was and i'm sure he is angry at the *** who assulted him as WE ALL ARE!
And I assure you all, unless he was deserving of it, and I would have been there, I probally would have been ready to open a can of WHOOPASs on the mFreaker! However, Doug has not condemed the whole mexican race over this incident. That's a sighn of true maturity! Doing the right thing is not always an easy thing to do!!! Doug.....I could tell from the first time i met you that you are a very mature and quality individual! And I can honnestly say that for all of the cascade Crew i met at sir!!! bhass, rsfreak, crusader, 85 ws6/ta. I can't wait to meet the rest of you..We have a great crew
And I assure you all, unless he was deserving of it, and I would have been there, I probally would have been ready to open a can of WHOOPASs on the mFreaker! However, Doug has not condemed the whole mexican race over this incident. That's a sighn of true maturity! Doing the right thing is not always an easy thing to do!!! Doug.....I could tell from the first time i met you that you are a very mature and quality individual! And I can honnestly say that for all of the cascade Crew i met at sir!!! bhass, rsfreak, crusader, 85 ws6/ta. I can't wait to meet the rest of you..We have a great crew
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I don't condemn the mexican community for one action... however I do condemn them for shooting my friend and stealing his belongings afterwards (while his family was at the funeral)... I don't condemn them all though, there are a lot of good ones...
I'm very reasonable about things... but personal assaults take things a bit too far for me and I take that more seriously
I can't say anything like "had I been there" and whatnot... cause the last few times I went and doug was reffing I was in the car reading... (haven't really been that big of a fan of soccer, but if I get a chance to see doug play, I'll be there watching and not reading
)...
I like many of the mexicans I've met... but there are certain kinds that just rub me the wrong way and I can spot them from a distance...
Doug is too damn mature for his age
(hehehe) but I'm glad he is... if he wasn't... I dun think Doug would really be Doug as we love him... 
Craig... you gonna come up for atleast one of the two gatherings in the next few weeks aren'tcha?? I'd love to meet you as well as everyone else that I missed out on meeting at SIR... and I'm sure the rest of the folks coming down (and up) would love to meet ya too...
Of course we have a great crew...
We may be whackos and our age differences are prettymuch every part of the scale imaginable... but I don't think we'd have it any other way... we all support eachother, we're all here for eachother... and the majority of us share a lot of common views (except paul, he dun like camaro's, the punkass, LOL) ...
And as of the 26th, we'll have had more gatherings than any other crew (btw the "once a month on a certain day" that other crews have do NOT count... because they're only for a few hours... the majority of ours are multiple days)...
And whats more... look at all the good conversations we always have... no matter what... we're a tight group of friends and always growing...
Acceptance + Friendship + Common Goals/Interests = a good goddamn group of friends = Cascade Crew = better than family
hehe
I'm very reasonable about things... but personal assaults take things a bit too far for me and I take that more seriously
I can't say anything like "had I been there" and whatnot... cause the last few times I went and doug was reffing I was in the car reading... (haven't really been that big of a fan of soccer, but if I get a chance to see doug play, I'll be there watching and not reading
)... I like many of the mexicans I've met... but there are certain kinds that just rub me the wrong way and I can spot them from a distance...
Doug is too damn mature for his age
(hehehe) but I'm glad he is... if he wasn't... I dun think Doug would really be Doug as we love him... 
Craig... you gonna come up for atleast one of the two gatherings in the next few weeks aren'tcha?? I'd love to meet you as well as everyone else that I missed out on meeting at SIR... and I'm sure the rest of the folks coming down (and up) would love to meet ya too...
Of course we have a great crew...
We may be whackos and our age differences are prettymuch every part of the scale imaginable... but I don't think we'd have it any other way... we all support eachother, we're all here for eachother... and the majority of us share a lot of common views (except paul, he dun like camaro's, the punkass, LOL) ...
And as of the 26th, we'll have had more gatherings than any other crew (btw the "once a month on a certain day" that other crews have do NOT count... because they're only for a few hours... the majority of ours are multiple days)...
And whats more... look at all the good conversations we always have... no matter what... we're a tight group of friends and always growing...
Acceptance + Friendship + Common Goals/Interests = a good goddamn group of friends = Cascade Crew = better than family
hehe
Demon....I know exactly what you mean by being able to spot the type miles away! They are easy to smell out! I ran into a few of them in the bad part of Tacoma with my wife last week. I just ignored them although i could have beat the shi! out of them but the wife would have been pissed! I'm kindof good at opening the can's of Whoopass because i have done martial arts my whole life, jujutsu in particular. So needless to say, a big part of me really wished i was there. However, I would never misuse what i know. Just part of being an adult. One way to keep from being trapped into the stigma of being racist is to judge the individual not the race! And don't get me wrong, Definatley not calling anyone a racist, just want to make a point. Look at that Jerks team mates, Doug even said that they wanted nothin to do with him after that incident. That's gotta account for somthing! Sounds like he had some charachter....too bad his team mate who attacked doug did not learn that quality! Anyhow, Doug is ok and nothin was too serious! As far as a monthly meeting, we should all hook up and do breakfast or somthing once a month at a central point? This whole summer i am taking a full load at school, but i will do my best to make some events. Consequently, I will not be able to make the 26th becasue the wife and I are in California
and I had plans set for the 4th of july to go Mtn bikin all weekend. So Keep me informed of future events!
and I had plans set for the 4th of july to go Mtn bikin all weekend. So Keep me informed of future events! I TAKE OFFENSE TO WHAT MOST OF YOU GUYS ARE SAYING IT SHOWS WHOS RUNNING THE BOARD, A BUNCH OF WHITE TRAILER TRASH TALKIN *********...PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE REASON FOR RACISIM...AS FOR 85 TA WS 6..
FOR THOSE REMARKS YOU SHOULD GET YOUR *** KICKED!!!! YOUR FORGETING THAT THE WHITE PEOPLE NEVER DO ANYTHING WRONG!!!! NO ONE IS PERFECT!!!
***ETS!!!
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FOR THOSE REMARKS YOU SHOULD GET YOUR *** KICKED!!!! YOUR FORGETING THAT THE WHITE PEOPLE NEVER DO ANYTHING WRONG!!!! NO ONE IS PERFECT!!!
***ETS!!!

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My convictions about what is happening in America today are strong. It has little to do with my manhood and alot to do with pride.
Im not a violent person by nature and avoid conficts if possible. I do know how to protect myself and most importantly my family with a variety of ways and means.
I guess I went a little over the top, I do like to have a "****tail" after work though
We, as a race and culture, are being methodically and systematically emasculated in this once great country that our courageous forefathers envisioned for us.
And we are not alone, either. The same thing is happening in many other western countries. There IS a reason for this. Rampant and uncontrolled illegal immigration.
I now have to be "tollerant" and "celebrate" or "embrace" diversity.
What if the United States were pouring its poorest, least educated citizens across the border into Mexico? Could anyone be fooled into thinking that Mexico was being "culturally enriched?" What if the state of Chihuahua were losing its majority population to poor Whites who demanded that schools be taught in English, who insisted on celebrating the Fourth of July, who demanded the right to vote even if they weren't citizens, who clamored for "affirmative action" in jobs and schooling?
Would Mexico - or any other non-White nation - tolerate this kind of cultural and demographic depredation? Of course not. Yet White Americans are supposed to look upon the flood of Hispanics entering their country as a priceless cultural gift. They are supposed to "celebrate" their own loss of influence, their own dwindling numbers, their own dispossession, for to do otherwise would be hopelessly racist.
I better get back to work, I think I have made my point. Sorry if the truth hurts.
Don
Im not a violent person by nature and avoid conficts if possible. I do know how to protect myself and most importantly my family with a variety of ways and means.
I guess I went a little over the top, I do like to have a "****tail" after work though

We, as a race and culture, are being methodically and systematically emasculated in this once great country that our courageous forefathers envisioned for us.
And we are not alone, either. The same thing is happening in many other western countries. There IS a reason for this. Rampant and uncontrolled illegal immigration.
I now have to be "tollerant" and "celebrate" or "embrace" diversity.
What if the United States were pouring its poorest, least educated citizens across the border into Mexico? Could anyone be fooled into thinking that Mexico was being "culturally enriched?" What if the state of Chihuahua were losing its majority population to poor Whites who demanded that schools be taught in English, who insisted on celebrating the Fourth of July, who demanded the right to vote even if they weren't citizens, who clamored for "affirmative action" in jobs and schooling?
Would Mexico - or any other non-White nation - tolerate this kind of cultural and demographic depredation? Of course not. Yet White Americans are supposed to look upon the flood of Hispanics entering their country as a priceless cultural gift. They are supposed to "celebrate" their own loss of influence, their own dwindling numbers, their own dispossession, for to do otherwise would be hopelessly racist.
I better get back to work, I think I have made my point. Sorry if the truth hurts.
Don
410gearratio,
Have you heard a word I have said or quicktrip....etc. I understand your anger, consequently, your lashing out in anger and insults only feed the fire of racism. It give's those who hate more ammo to hate. And as for youself, if you give into the hate and let it control you rather than you controling the anger, you will end up with an attitude just as the one you are protesting. That my friend can make you a hiprocite. Like I said, I completley emphasise with your anger due to some of the things stated on this subject! And I know that those words were spoken out of anger. Singling out ws6ta and the others, well, you really do not know them at all. They are all good people. And just like the tiger who only reacts where as man has the ability to reason. A true man show's his manhood by controling that anger and with good reason, balance, judgement and the use of anger, one can place his true feelings and opinions in a mature manner, not as a child throwing a fit. So 410gearratio, don't feel i'm singling you out, just trying to put some perspective on live and how we all can get allong with all of our racial differences
. I do classify people into three catagories, Decent folk, Misunderstood folk, and the ones I absolutly can not stand are the PUNKS! These are the ones you call trailor trash, gang bangers ect... Bad attitude towards all. Sure you all know the type! Anyhow, Please don't come to our board and **** everyone off because that only creates more animosity towards oneanother. You are welcome here with constructive critisim as far as i am concerned, those types of challenges help us grow and mature
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Have you heard a word I have said or quicktrip....etc. I understand your anger, consequently, your lashing out in anger and insults only feed the fire of racism. It give's those who hate more ammo to hate. And as for youself, if you give into the hate and let it control you rather than you controling the anger, you will end up with an attitude just as the one you are protesting. That my friend can make you a hiprocite. Like I said, I completley emphasise with your anger due to some of the things stated on this subject! And I know that those words were spoken out of anger. Singling out ws6ta and the others, well, you really do not know them at all. They are all good people. And just like the tiger who only reacts where as man has the ability to reason. A true man show's his manhood by controling that anger and with good reason, balance, judgement and the use of anger, one can place his true feelings and opinions in a mature manner, not as a child throwing a fit. So 410gearratio, don't feel i'm singling you out, just trying to put some perspective on live and how we all can get allong with all of our racial differences
. I do classify people into three catagories, Decent folk, Misunderstood folk, and the ones I absolutly can not stand are the PUNKS! These are the ones you call trailor trash, gang bangers ect... Bad attitude towards all. Sure you all know the type! Anyhow, Please don't come to our board and **** everyone off because that only creates more animosity towards oneanother. You are welcome here with constructive critisim as far as i am concerned, those types of challenges help us grow and mature
. Don,
pride comes before a fall. From your last post, i hope i have not insulted you! I do not think you are less of a man in your manhood because of you last post. Like i said, its easy to get angry and react to certain circumstances. And especially when it's a friend. For example, If that incident happend while i was around, I probally would have got in the middle of it and grappled the assailant to the ground and put a can of Whoopass pain compliance hold on the mfreaker
No matter what race the dude was. Anyway, I hope I have not insulted you or anyone else. You guyz are a quality group of individuals! And by the way, I had a few Brews the last night while writting the post hehehe....not normal for me, no worries...its all good
pride comes before a fall. From your last post, i hope i have not insulted you! I do not think you are less of a man in your manhood because of you last post. Like i said, its easy to get angry and react to certain circumstances. And especially when it's a friend. For example, If that incident happend while i was around, I probally would have got in the middle of it and grappled the assailant to the ground and put a can of Whoopass pain compliance hold on the mfreaker
No matter what race the dude was. Anyway, I hope I have not insulted you or anyone else. You guyz are a quality group of individuals! And by the way, I had a few Brews the last night while writting the post hehehe....not normal for me, no worries...its all good
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 410GEARRATIO:
I TAKE OFFENSE TO WHAT MOST OF YOU GUYS ARE SAYING IT SHOWS WHOS RUNNING THE BOARD, A BUNCH OF WHITE TRAILER TRASH TALKIN *********...PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE REASON FOR RACISIM...AS FOR 85 TA WS 6..
FOR THOSE REMARKS YOU SHOULD GET YOUR *** KICKED!!!! YOUR FORGETING THAT THE WHITE PEOPLE NEVER DO ANYTHING WRONG!!!! NO ONE IS PERFECT!!!
***ETS!!!
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I TAKE OFFENSE TO WHAT MOST OF YOU GUYS ARE SAYING IT SHOWS WHOS RUNNING THE BOARD, A BUNCH OF WHITE TRAILER TRASH TALKIN *********...PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE REASON FOR RACISIM...AS FOR 85 TA WS 6..
FOR THOSE REMARKS YOU SHOULD GET YOUR *** KICKED!!!! YOUR FORGETING THAT THE WHITE PEOPLE NEVER DO ANYTHING WRONG!!!! NO ONE IS PERFECT!!!
***ETS!!!

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Fuck off Texan!!
[/cartman voice]

Damn... Texass nothing like Washington ... also no where NEAR Washington, its two different cultures...
White people do tons of shyt wrong... like for instance... this....
See? that was probably wrong

Don't take offense to someones personal opinions...
Yes, I am an A****** ... but hey, at times who isn't...
But everyones point has been gotten across one way or another, as was yours... of course, calling us white trash and "Faggots" (which you spelled wrong by the way) ... isn't exactly the greatest way to say "Hey his hispanic dood from Texas is ok" ... instead it gets a negative reaction ,like that of what I have posted
I view everyone as equals until one person starts shitting on someone else and treating everyone like crap... Don has his opinions and I respect him, and I think he's a great guy... so what if he doesn't share the same views as a californian or texan... I more or less share his views because I'm getting sick of it myself...
The town I live in has doubled its population in 10 years, 90% of which were mexican... when I dropped my Junior year in highschool, half the population of the school was hispanic (or latino, latina, whatever the **** they wanna be called ...it changes every year) ... no less than 500 ... the year before? there was less than 50.
So pardon me if I laughed at the "Priceless Cultural Gift" part
I rather liked that statement...Call me white trash, Call me a *******, Call me whatever the hell ya want... just makes you as bad because you're stating your own opinion
If the united states were like other countries, immigration would be slim to none... as Americans "we have to accept change" ... but we don't have to like it... nor do we have to act like we like it... America is based on freedom of speech, albeit moderated freedom, but we can still say what we would like to and we can express our opinions fully ... as can anyone who enters the country, legally or not.
You might think that was said in poor taste... but hey, you chose to get yourself involved
But here's a question for you all...
Why is it the Cubans stay east coast, Mexicans stay west coast, and indians (not native americans, ones from India) stay in Canadia?
Why the fuck don't people go to the midwestern states where they actually need population?? LOL
Yes, the above questions were to be taken in jest, but I'd also like to see if anyone has an answer
I don't know if there was a point to this, I just felt like ranting

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Interesting converstion piece, I am glad to see it has progressed into a mature conversation by Cascade Crew members. I was afraid I was going to have to delete this topic after reading some of the first posts.
Craiger: I would of loved to of been able to either dodge the punch or something, and if I had the training you had he would of probably looked a lot worse then I did.
I have though about taking some martial arts at some point, and I am seriously thinking about finding a place to study up in Bellingham when I go to college up there.
410: Being you are not a member of the Cascade Crew it is your option to read this board. Yes, it is a public forum, BUT it is also a club oriented one. Since you are not a member I advise that if you plan on posting anything like that here again to serious consider how much you like being a member of Thirdgen. I am not defending my friends here, I am speaking as a moderator, and we do not tolerate posts like that on Thirdgen, and expecially not in my forum.
Please keep this point an intellectual thing for reading, which it has been very well. I find the topic great for the reason we all have to deal with it in our everyday lives.
And last thank you all for the support. If it wasn't for the soccer community and friends (that includes all you guys) this would of been a lot harder experience on me.
Douglas
Craiger: I would of loved to of been able to either dodge the punch or something, and if I had the training you had he would of probably looked a lot worse then I did.
I have though about taking some martial arts at some point, and I am seriously thinking about finding a place to study up in Bellingham when I go to college up there.
410: Being you are not a member of the Cascade Crew it is your option to read this board. Yes, it is a public forum, BUT it is also a club oriented one. Since you are not a member I advise that if you plan on posting anything like that here again to serious consider how much you like being a member of Thirdgen. I am not defending my friends here, I am speaking as a moderator, and we do not tolerate posts like that on Thirdgen, and expecially not in my forum.
Please keep this point an intellectual thing for reading, which it has been very well. I find the topic great for the reason we all have to deal with it in our everyday lives.
And last thank you all for the support. If it wasn't for the soccer community and friends (that includes all you guys) this would of been a lot harder experience on me.
Douglas
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... point made demon...good job
first off, we are ALL imorgrants, sons of imorgrans (and daughters(for the ladies)) or whatever.
but when my grandfather came here from germany. he didn't demand that schools speak his languange, and that everyone change to his cultural views nor did he expect to be treated specialy. he worked hard to learn english and to fit in in the culture that was the US. I AM NOT RACIST. but if you wanna be conisdered american. be an AMERICAN. not a mexican who crossed the border and lives in america, and wants to be called american, and wants all the benifits without joining the cultuer. do like every other group of people that has imagrated into the US over the last couple of centuries. become part of the country. learn out social system. learn our lang. ect.
/rant mode off
just my .02
first off, we are ALL imorgrants, sons of imorgrans (and daughters(for the ladies)) or whatever.
but when my grandfather came here from germany. he didn't demand that schools speak his languange, and that everyone change to his cultural views nor did he expect to be treated specialy. he worked hard to learn english and to fit in in the culture that was the US. I AM NOT RACIST. but if you wanna be conisdered american. be an AMERICAN. not a mexican who crossed the border and lives in america, and wants to be called american, and wants all the benifits without joining the cultuer. do like every other group of people that has imagrated into the US over the last couple of centuries. become part of the country. learn out social system. learn our lang. ect.
/rant mode off
just my .02
Man, I'm tryin to keep the peace here and demon just stir's the pot. All i can say is that I always respet others opinions reguardless if i agree with them or not. But I must admit, I found myself laughing when i noticed the bird and read demon's reply! Not the TA bird. And Doug, When are you going to school? I know a lot of instructors but not any in that part of WA. Also, I guarentee that if you do an art such as jujutsu, bujustu, judo, ikjutisu, or akido, it will help you out in dance too! Too bad we live so far away or I could train you 2X a week
Anyhow, funny how this topit is onfire on the msg board and in the msg board
Anyhow, funny how this topit is onfire on the msg board and in the msg board
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... i have no grudge with you teximex. or mexicans or any other race.
i am white..i have been beat up by cops...and have the scars to show you if you want...and i am white...but i was breaking the law...were you? ok then
also do you have anything constructive to say...or are you just going to critisise and call names? come on... use your little brain.. come up with something constructive to back up your point... personaly i don't think spanish should be required... why can't my kids learn german? my family is german...it is part of their heritage....
BTW this is the NORTWEST group...not the deep south club...
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i am white..i have been beat up by cops...and have the scars to show you if you want...and i am white...but i was breaking the law...were you? ok then
also do you have anything constructive to say...or are you just going to critisise and call names? come on... use your little brain.. come up with something constructive to back up your point... personaly i don't think spanish should be required... why can't my kids learn german? my family is german...it is part of their heritage....
BTW this is the NORTWEST group...not the deep south club...
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~~~~~~ I'm posting this again because it has things that contribute to this conversation, regardless of who the quotes came from ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There are no mexicans in Cascade because unlike cali and texas, there still aren't that many up here... yet if they wanted to be, they'd be accepted as one of the group. And I know of some who have views agreeable to whats being posted here too (they just don't drive F-Bodies)
Spanish can be a beautiful language...but when I walk into an american restaurant, GODDAMNIT I want to be able to UNDERSTAND the waiter telling me the specials (the mexican restaurants up here are great BTW, and they do not bother me, because they're a mexican restuarant)
Do you see the point though? **** 90% of the shools don't teach russian or german but there are russians and germans here... as well as norwegians and scandinavians... but we don't teach that... Washington is a very disverse state... there are also very large asian communities here... yet we also very rarely teach japanese or chinese
White Cops, Black Cops, Hispanic Cops, etc... doesn't matter they probably would all kick your *** if they had a good reason...
And for that sleeping with brothers and sisters and family and all that... sorry... but that shyt does NOT fly on TGO ... and its not always white people who do that...
I know plenty of mexicans who do that...
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The reason I posted this again is, not to **** doug off, and not to directly quote someone, but to express views on a few other topics pertaining to what this topic has turned into...
I think others will agree on parts of it so it needs to be seen
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally spewed out:
[B]SO CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISIZIM IS TO DOWN LATINOS AND MEXICANS.. YOU KNOW, ITS FUNNY THAT THERE ARE NO MEXICANS IN YOUR CRAPPY CREW!!! BECAUSE IM SURE THAT THEY WOULD NOT STAND FOR THAT ****!!! </font>
[B]SO CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISIZIM IS TO DOWN LATINOS AND MEXICANS.. YOU KNOW, ITS FUNNY THAT THERE ARE NO MEXICANS IN YOUR CRAPPY CREW!!! BECAUSE IM SURE THAT THEY WOULD NOT STAND FOR THAT ****!!! </font>
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AND KIDS IN SCHOOL BEING TAUGHT TO SPEAK SPANISH.. HA ! TO BAD!!! GET USE TO IT!!!ALMOST HALF THE CUSTOMERS IN THE JOB MARKET ARE LATINOS,ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD AS WELL AS ACROSS THE SEA!!! THATS WHY THEY TEACH IT IN SCHOOL...!!!!! !!!!!!!
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AND KIDS IN SCHOOL BEING TAUGHT TO SPEAK SPANISH.. HA ! TO BAD!!! GET USE TO IT!!!ALMOST HALF THE CUSTOMERS IN THE JOB MARKET ARE LATINOS,ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD AS WELL AS ACROSS THE SEA!!! THATS WHY THEY TEACH IT IN SCHOOL...!!!!! !!!!!!!
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Do you see the point though? **** 90% of the shools don't teach russian or german but there are russians and germans here... as well as norwegians and scandinavians... but we don't teach that... Washington is a very disverse state... there are also very large asian communities here... yet we also very rarely teach japanese or chinese
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THERES MY OPINION!!! WHEN I GOT MY *** KICKED BY A WHITE COP...I DIDNT COME ON HERE AND START BITCHING ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE, THE ONLY THING THEY WERE GOOD FOR IS SLEEPING WITH THERE COUSINS AND SISTERS!!!! NO, I JUST BLEW IT OFF...</font>
THERES MY OPINION!!! WHEN I GOT MY *** KICKED BY A WHITE COP...I DIDNT COME ON HERE AND START BITCHING ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE, THE ONLY THING THEY WERE GOOD FOR IS SLEEPING WITH THERE COUSINS AND SISTERS!!!! NO, I JUST BLEW IT OFF...</font>
And for that sleeping with brothers and sisters and family and all that... sorry... but that shyt does NOT fly on TGO ... and its not always white people who do that...
I know plenty of mexicans who do that...
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The reason I posted this again is, not to **** doug off, and not to directly quote someone, but to express views on a few other topics pertaining to what this topic has turned into...
I think others will agree on parts of it so it needs to be seen

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When did Texas become part of the Northwest.But i must say I don't like rascism i think it's bulls.hit,some races do tend to be more violent and stupid but we must endure.An eye for an eye
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by craiger:
DAZANG
what other emotions can you put in here? After this topic, I think im gonna play some counter strike or rogue spear tonight
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DAZANG
what other emotions can you put in here? After this topic, I think im gonna play some counter strike or rogue spear tonight
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Im online for a bit tonight, lets get together, email me the IP for the server you play on, hell I even take the point!
lock and load.
_=RKA=_Diver down
What has this crew come to? When did we start stooping so low as to perpetuate, and in some cases instigate, the violence that is being discussed here? This is turning into a bunch of children talking about eachothers mommas'.
Constructive Critisim;
410, You are doing more harm than good. Not for us or you, but for your claimed race. I am an american. My neighbor of english decent is an american. My Grandfather of german origin, was an american. My in-laws from canada are, you guessed it, american. Even my friend who was born to illegal imigrants from mexico, is an american. What we are talking about here is the people who come to this country and refuse to learn the language. Refuse to even attempt to become productive, contributing members of american society. Those people are the type who are career welfare recipients. 410, you are doing a great job of representing that class of people. Keep up the good work, and we'll keep finding a reason to dislike them.
Don, Very good statement. We are all passionate about our love of country and most of us go overboard when our country is being bashed.
Craiger, you took the words right out of my mouth.
Demon, All valid points. But (get ready to tell me to Fuckoff), Should that really be said by a moderator? I though you were suppose to moderate, not instigate.
Amorget, doing good so far. I hope we can get through this while keeping it an adult discussion.
As for myself, I never said anything about mexicans. I actually admire some of those so-called "mexicans". They do a job a white man just won't do. I know of very few people of any race that will work as hard as a "mexican" for 12 hours a day, in the beating sun. And for what? So their family back in mexico can have a better life.
I did say I would have opened a can of whoopass, and I would have. I'm 5'9" and weigh 124lbs. You always here about the little guys. When your as small as I am growing up in a gang area, it becomes an instinct. But the up side of my poor attitude is I can throw a 10' length of 1/2" steel chain over 20'.
Futhermore to keep this discussion light I offer this proof of my beliefs;
1. I am not racist, I own a COLOR TV.
2 I am not prejudice, I (probably just like Demon) hate everyone equally.
Mike
Constructive Critisim;
410, You are doing more harm than good. Not for us or you, but for your claimed race. I am an american. My neighbor of english decent is an american. My Grandfather of german origin, was an american. My in-laws from canada are, you guessed it, american. Even my friend who was born to illegal imigrants from mexico, is an american. What we are talking about here is the people who come to this country and refuse to learn the language. Refuse to even attempt to become productive, contributing members of american society. Those people are the type who are career welfare recipients. 410, you are doing a great job of representing that class of people. Keep up the good work, and we'll keep finding a reason to dislike them.
Don, Very good statement. We are all passionate about our love of country and most of us go overboard when our country is being bashed.
Craiger, you took the words right out of my mouth.
Demon, All valid points. But (get ready to tell me to Fuckoff), Should that really be said by a moderator? I though you were suppose to moderate, not instigate.
Amorget, doing good so far. I hope we can get through this while keeping it an adult discussion.
As for myself, I never said anything about mexicans. I actually admire some of those so-called "mexicans". They do a job a white man just won't do. I know of very few people of any race that will work as hard as a "mexican" for 12 hours a day, in the beating sun. And for what? So their family back in mexico can have a better life.
I did say I would have opened a can of whoopass, and I would have. I'm 5'9" and weigh 124lbs. You always here about the little guys. When your as small as I am growing up in a gang area, it becomes an instinct. But the up side of my poor attitude is I can throw a 10' length of 1/2" steel chain over 20'.
Futhermore to keep this discussion light I offer this proof of my beliefs;
1. I am not racist, I own a COLOR TV.
2 I am not prejudice, I (probably just like Demon) hate everyone equally.
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I suggest that one of our moderators close this thread before it gets more out of hand.
RS, I see no reason to close it at this point. The main source of problems has not posted again, and doubt he will. This post has some very interesting stuff in it, and aside from one break down it has been a good discussion.
Though it is about this || far away from being closed.
402, I agree with you in all cases, though I resent the fact you said "so far"
Though it is about this || far away from being closed.
402, I agree with you in all cases, though I resent the fact you said "so far"
O Greatest Amorget, Wilst thou ever forgive me for my uneducated ways? I swear to all F-body's that I will never doubt your abilities and will always remember that you will continue to do a great job until the end of eternity....
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hehehe fuckoff!!!
lmfao j/k man
Even though I am moderator, Doug still does more than I did... I thought all posts on here should be left alone but he felt otherwise (cause that guy was kinda screwy..) so I edited my original post and reposted it hehe...
Yes, I instigate things... but theres a few places I draw the line... I just didn't see them here so I things as they were
:: points to doug :: Responisble moderator...
:: points to self :: normal person again, [bf[/b]ucking shyt

I liked the fact that we can get a good conversation like this firing on all 8 cylinders ... it gives everyone more of a chance to see how everyone is and see what they have in common and what they don't...
Call it a project I guess, but personally I enjoy watching how we all develop together... the more everyone acts like themselves, the less surprises there will be later on down the road...
knowwhutahmean?
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lmfao j/k man
Even though I am moderator, Doug still does more than I did... I thought all posts on here should be left alone but he felt otherwise (cause that guy was kinda screwy..) so I edited my original post and reposted it hehe...
Yes, I instigate things... but theres a few places I draw the line... I just didn't see them here so I things as they were
:: points to doug :: Responisble moderator...
:: points to self :: normal person again, [bf[/b]ucking shyt

I liked the fact that we can get a good conversation like this firing on all 8 cylinders ... it gives everyone more of a chance to see how everyone is and see what they have in common and what they don't...
Call it a project I guess, but personally I enjoy watching how we all develop together... the more everyone acts like themselves, the less surprises there will be later on down the road...
knowwhutahmean?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Demon Z28:
...Doug still does more than I did... </font>
...Doug still does more than I did... </font>
LOL, okay, that is acceptable, I guess!
Just don't do it again :P
As for what Aaron said, this is a public forum, and if the Admin starts getting complaints about the board we will lose it. I do not find one persons post as a reason to get into trouble. Second, if a new member comes in and starts reading the top post and starts reading what is being said I wouldn't post either.
Last, Thirdgen has over 8,000 members now and that can lead to some pretty darn good sponsorship... but if a sponsor is browsing the boards and goes, hey, that regional board has a lot of posts, well, look at that, a topic on fire right at the top... then goes... what the.... I do not want people associating my product with some of what is being said here I have some major butt kissing to do!
Just don't do it again :P As for what Aaron said, this is a public forum, and if the Admin starts getting complaints about the board we will lose it. I do not find one persons post as a reason to get into trouble. Second, if a new member comes in and starts reading the top post and starts reading what is being said I wouldn't post either.
Last, Thirdgen has over 8,000 members now and that can lead to some pretty darn good sponsorship... but if a sponsor is browsing the boards and goes, hey, that regional board has a lot of posts, well, look at that, a topic on fire right at the top... then goes... what the.... I do not want people associating my product with some of what is being said here I have some major butt kissing to do!
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guess people can't express themselves openly or be themselves on this board anymore without someone complaining about it...

Cute...

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Cute...

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Ok I hadn't opened this thread til a friend made a comment about it. So, as always, I'm going to express my personal opinion.
No matter what ethnicity, if I would have been there, I would've beat down on that guy for taking a shot at my friend. As you all know from Ocean Shores, I'm not one to back down from a fight. Douglas is a friend and I would have tried to protect him. Aaron and I are both kind of like that.
As far as those of you knocking Hispanics, let me just inform you that as a person that employs Hispanics and "Whites", if I have a job available and I have a Hispanic and white kid both equally qualified for the job, I'd hire the Hispanic in a heartbeat. They are loyal, work harders and to be honest, the typical young white kid is lazy in comparison. However, like Hispanics, you can't judge all young white kids by the actions of just one.
Do I discriminate? You bet. My job is to provide my clients with quality. Point blank.
Oh, and about the shallow "hispanics and spray paint" comment...C'mon now, :raises hand: I'm guilty as hell of that when I was a teen. And the gang I hung out with was guilty as well. And there were like, umm...no Hispanics in our crew. We were good, too. I'll have to scan some pics.
On a lighter note, like Aaron said, Douglas does have beautiful eyes.
Peace out.
No matter what ethnicity, if I would have been there, I would've beat down on that guy for taking a shot at my friend. As you all know from Ocean Shores, I'm not one to back down from a fight. Douglas is a friend and I would have tried to protect him. Aaron and I are both kind of like that.
As far as those of you knocking Hispanics, let me just inform you that as a person that employs Hispanics and "Whites", if I have a job available and I have a Hispanic and white kid both equally qualified for the job, I'd hire the Hispanic in a heartbeat. They are loyal, work harders and to be honest, the typical young white kid is lazy in comparison. However, like Hispanics, you can't judge all young white kids by the actions of just one.
Do I discriminate? You bet. My job is to provide my clients with quality. Point blank.
Oh, and about the shallow "hispanics and spray paint" comment...C'mon now, :raises hand: I'm guilty as hell of that when I was a teen. And the gang I hung out with was guilty as well. And there were like, umm...no Hispanics in our crew. We were good, too. I'll have to scan some pics.

On a lighter note, like Aaron said, Douglas does have beautiful eyes.

Peace out.
WOW!!!! Man I come and read some posts and see this. Everyone sso passionate. While I agree with most of the people that had I been there I would have protected my friend Doogie, I do not agree with the racist remarks, I do understand everyones points and truth be told I think them myself from time to time. Like when I pull up to carls jr and can't understand what the damned mexican people are saying to me. That upsets me, when I see good camaro's slammed to the ground with 2" rims and giant tire eaters stickout out the side, 4 decker wings and stupid mexican writing on it I think "what a waste of air" I, myself, am Hispanic being that I am Peurto Rican, But I feel no ties to Peurto Rico or any other place except for WA. Since I was born in Olympia and have ALways lived in the Great state of Washington. I also think teaching our children to speak Spanish, or celebrate Spanish independence in America is stupid. They should be americans or get the hell out, nuff said. This "Seperate but Equal" Crap is nothing but bulls.hit. It pisses me off to no end. ANyway I'm done ranting. On a lighter note I got married Yesterday! I'll post some pics I took with my digicam on another post.
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from time to time. Like when I pull up to carls jr
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from time to time. Like when I pull up to carls jr
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Just had to see those perty eyes once more lol, hope your healing well Doug and hope you found your keys 
I hate to stir up the pot again but I just had to share this with the group:
CASA Latina
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...latina25m.html

Don
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I hate to stir up the pot again but I just had to share this with the group:
CASA Latina
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...latina25m.html

Don
surfin at work
Amorget, its good to see another soccer fan. I love the game. I think the problem here is not the guys ethnicity its the blatant lack of respect for officials in any game, be it soccer, hockey, baseball whatever. There are always stories of officials being abused verbally and physically at games. I think you did the right thing by not fighting back, hopefully the guy will face some serious charges because what he did was wrong. Like someone else mentioned above by keeping your anger in check you proved to be a bigger man.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Contractors driving dinged-up trucks pull up to hire construction workers, landscapers, carpenters. A woman in a black Mercedes holding a white poodle arrives, looking for a couple of gardeners.
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Another group - 60 or more men - operate as free-lance laborers and don't play by the agency's rules. Some believe they can negotiate a better price on their own; others don't like the policy against drugs, alcohol or fighting on site.
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Another group - 60 or more men - operate as free-lance laborers and don't play by the agency's rules. Some believe they can negotiate a better price on their own; others don't like the policy against drugs, alcohol or fighting on site.
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damn you for getting that article
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