OK I need help on my launch and some other things
OK I need help on my launch and some other things
Actually, I have two, kinda related questions:
Question #1. What is the best way to start a burnout in my 82 Z28? I have a 305 auto with Posi. Is it better to start in first, RPM's up to 5K, then to second, RPM's to 5k, then to drive and slowly release brake? Or, just start in drive? I tried the gear thing on the 4th and it didn't seem like I had the torque needed.
Question #2. When racing someone from the line, should I drop the gears for better traction or just leave her in drive?
OK, I guess I have a 3rd question: If going about 35 MPH and some loser in a VW Jetta (or whatever it was)cuts me off and I want to romp on him, is it going to kill my tranny if I throw her into 2nd or should I just lay on the gas? My carb is acting up (no, I'm not going EFI)so my response time kind sucks right now but I want to know what the best way to handle this is without trashing on my car.
Thanks.
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Question #1. What is the best way to start a burnout in my 82 Z28? I have a 305 auto with Posi. Is it better to start in first, RPM's up to 5K, then to second, RPM's to 5k, then to drive and slowly release brake? Or, just start in drive? I tried the gear thing on the 4th and it didn't seem like I had the torque needed.
Question #2. When racing someone from the line, should I drop the gears for better traction or just leave her in drive?
OK, I guess I have a 3rd question: If going about 35 MPH and some loser in a VW Jetta (or whatever it was)cuts me off and I want to romp on him, is it going to kill my tranny if I throw her into 2nd or should I just lay on the gas? My carb is acting up (no, I'm not going EFI)so my response time kind sucks right now but I want to know what the best way to handle this is without trashing on my car.
Thanks.
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Out of all the "trial runs" I have made and the racers for the magazines, the best way to launch the car for racing, is to just put it in D (not OD! Evidently different fluid flows within the tranny), apply the brakes hard, rev the engine to about 1500 rpm, and when you are ready to go (last yellow light) release the brakes, and feather the gas (to keep traction) until it's floored! I've always been able to force the shift around 4500rpm by a slight lift of the accelerator and punching it again. That will keep you in the torque/power curve of the engine, but still prevent loss of traction. From there on, just hold on and enjoy the ride watching the scenery pass by!!
For just doing a burn out, DON'T put it in Neutral, rev, then drop in gear!! That will mess it up fast!! You should be able to light the tires with the braking technique easily! You shouldn't even have to rev very high, until the wheels start spinning, then you want to get lots of heat in the tires! Just keep an eye on the yellow/redline on the tach! It will go high, fast! Don't want to blow the engine just doing a burnout, do you??!!!
Hope this helps!!
Paul
For just doing a burn out, DON'T put it in Neutral, rev, then drop in gear!! That will mess it up fast!! You should be able to light the tires with the braking technique easily! You shouldn't even have to rev very high, until the wheels start spinning, then you want to get lots of heat in the tires! Just keep an eye on the yellow/redline on the tach! It will go high, fast! Don't want to blow the engine just doing a burnout, do you??!!!
Hope this helps!!
Paul
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by PonchoTA:
For just doing a burn out, DON'T put it in Neutral, rev, then drop in gear!! That will mess it up fast!! You should be able to light the tires with the braking technique easily! You shouldn't even have to rev very high, until the wheels start spinning, then you want to get lots of heat in the tires! </font>
For just doing a burn out, DON'T put it in Neutral, rev, then drop in gear!! That will mess it up fast!! You should be able to light the tires with the braking technique easily! You shouldn't even have to rev very high, until the wheels start spinning, then you want to get lots of heat in the tires! </font>

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Don't want to blow the engine just doing a burnout, do you??!!!
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But still, I don't like to trash on my car if I don't have to.Supreme Member
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Summer you do good burnouts for now as it is... your tires just have a lot of bite to them compared to what everyone else has (like Lance's tires n stuff hehehe)
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 82Zee28:
OK, I guess I have a 3rd question: If going about 35 MPH and some loser in a VW Jetta (or whatever it was)cuts me off and I want to romp on him, is it going to kill my tranny if I throw her into 2nd or should I just lay on the gas? My carb is acting up (no, I'm not going EFI)so my response time kind sucks right now but I want to know what the best way to handle this is without trashing on my car.</font>
OK, I guess I have a 3rd question: If going about 35 MPH and some loser in a VW Jetta (or whatever it was)cuts me off and I want to romp on him, is it going to kill my tranny if I throw her into 2nd or should I just lay on the gas? My carb is acting up (no, I'm not going EFI)so my response time kind sucks right now but I want to know what the best way to handle this is without trashing on my car.</font>

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just put that other carb on there and call it good, hehehe if your carb is being a piece of shyt right now I wouldn't risk it...
Does your engine still need a tune up??
Does your engine still need a tune up??
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Demon Z28:
(like Lance's tires n stuff hehehe)</font>
(like Lance's tires n stuff hehehe)</font>
Of course I do have an open rearend...Summer, you could always get a V6
Crista's gonna kick your Z butt with her birdy, hehehe
j/k
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Blue502:
Summer, you could always get a V6 </font>
Summer, you could always get a V6 </font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> Crista's gonna kick your Z butt with her birdy
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It will be fun to race her, though.
Nothing wrong with a bit of Cascade Crew Sibling Rivalry. 
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hey its not my fault theres occasionally nothing better on TV than the damned animal channel!!
The Crocodile Hunter kicks *** !!!
"Rawght, Now! I'ma stick my thumb up his bum... theese should really pyss 'im off!!"
The Crocodile Hunter kicks *** !!!
"Rawght, Now! I'ma stick my thumb up his bum... theese should really pyss 'im off!!"
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Demon Z28:
"Rawght, Now! I'ma stick my thumb up his bum... theese should really pyss 'im off!!"</font>
"Rawght, Now! I'ma stick my thumb up his bum... theese should really pyss 'im off!!"</font>
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lmao thats offa southpark when they had croc hunter on it hehehe but Croc. Hunter kicks **** anyway hehehe ... just the things he does... its hard not to laugh when an alligator or crocodile tries to takehis hand off or when a snake tries to rape his foot full of venom

its a damn lot better than watching MTV I tell ya that much

its a damn lot better than watching MTV I tell ya that much
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Demon Z28:
its hard not to laugh when an alligator or crocodile tries to takehis hand off or when a snake tries to rape his foot full of venom

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its hard not to laugh when an alligator or crocodile tries to takehis hand off or when a snake tries to rape his foot full of venom

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Blue502:
Maybe, but he has one of the best jobs on this planet.</font>
Maybe, but he has one of the best jobs on this planet.</font>
hum carb carb carb carb get a Edle Brock 1406 600 cfm carb w/ the electric choke I put one of these on my oldsmobile ( 83 delta 88 w/ the computer controlled carb ) I hooked up the choke but left the computer relay ( plug on the drivers side of the carb ) off and it ran fine. when I needed it to pass emmissions I would tune it back almsot to the point of running to lean after emissions jsut crank it back up to where it was before just remember how many turns you turn the needle valves and I also took a sharpie and maked where it was so the lines lined up and jsut rememberd how many turns I turned them in and when I turned them back out I did the same amount and then I would line the lines back up.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Blue502:
Maybe, but he has one of the best jobs on this planet.</font>
Maybe, but he has one of the best jobs on this planet.</font>
"Rawght, and if we look up 'ere in the crocigator's stomache..."
I am glad Jesse is such a good Moderator and keeps these posts on subject! 
Anyway, summer, you've seen my burn outs... just put it on Drive and floor it. Don't worry about shifting into 2nd or something. The idea behind a burn out with street tires to just clean them off from all the crud and get them a little warm... overheat them and they are all oily and slick... in the bad way.
Yeah, and NO Neutral drops... unless you want to drop your tranny while you are at it. I did it once in my V-6 when I didn't know better... and ouch... it made a horrid noise and I never did that again.
And nobody gets to woop Christys butt until I do in my V-6! That Firebird owes me a race, I never got to race it under Jesses control, so I will have to settle with racing a girl... sigh...

Anyway, summer, you've seen my burn outs... just put it on Drive and floor it. Don't worry about shifting into 2nd or something. The idea behind a burn out with street tires to just clean them off from all the crud and get them a little warm... overheat them and they are all oily and slick... in the bad way.
Yeah, and NO Neutral drops... unless you want to drop your tranny while you are at it. I did it once in my V-6 when I didn't know better... and ouch... it made a horrid noise and I never did that again.
And nobody gets to woop Christys butt until I do in my V-6! That Firebird owes me a race, I never got to race it under Jesses control, so I will have to settle with racing a girl... sigh...
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AmorgetRS:
And nobody gets to woop Christys butt until I do in my V-6! That Firebird owes me a race, I never got to race it under Jesses control, so I will have to settle with racing a girl... sigh...[/B]</font>
And nobody gets to woop Christys butt until I do in my V-6! That Firebird owes me a race, I never got to race it under Jesses control, so I will have to settle with racing a girl... sigh...[/B]</font>

speaking of burn outs, whats the easiest(on the car) way to lightem up with a stick
[This message has been edited by F-BOY (edited July 22, 2001).]
Nah, I'll be so far ahead of her she won't be able to run me off the road!
As for its twin getting the first shot.. heck no! I race her, woop her butt, then I race you and kick you butt!!
Then you two can fight it out for slowest V-6
As for its twin getting the first shot.. heck no! I race her, woop her butt, then I race you and kick you butt!!
Then you two can fight it out for slowest V-6
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AmorgetRS:
I am glad Jesse is such a good Moderator and keeps these posts on subject!
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I am glad Jesse is such a good Moderator and keeps these posts on subject!

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wha???Now come on Doug we all now there is something way up with you supposed '3.1' plus you're lighter and have some goodies, so don't pick on the 2.8's so much.

And for burnouts, I just put it in 1st and watch the revs... For the stick guys I think what Lance did proably works the best, rev up well into power band - drop clutch to break loose - hit breaks to do the stationary part...
Jess
hehehe...
Everyone will get a chance to race. Not to worry. But all you guys better watch out. I take after Summer a lot!
Just thought I'd let you all know.
I have to get the hang of the car first. So then I can really smoke ya'll!!!
[This message has been edited by Crista Jean (edited July 23, 2001).]
Everyone will get a chance to race. Not to worry. But all you guys better watch out. I take after Summer a lot!
Just thought I'd let you all know.
I have to get the hang of the car first. So then I can really smoke ya'll!!!

[This message has been edited by Crista Jean (edited July 23, 2001).]
You're too kind to us. But you don't have to wash it. When we get her home, we're going to detail and wax it.
Not that it needs it, it's such a clean car.
What I really want to know is what mods are you and your uncle planning with all that cash?? You're getting the money a few days before you leave, so...better start planning!
Not that it needs it, it's such a clean car. What I really want to know is what mods are you and your uncle planning with all that cash?? You're getting the money a few days before you leave, so...better start planning!

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I'm still gonna wash it for you
And I can return to you your steering wheel puller I meant to return when we met in Stanwood so Crista could drive the car.
HAHAHA my unlce promote go fast mods?! That will be they day - when my uncle helps me plan a mod... But, no mods are planned with the $ from the 89 unless you count paying down the loan or credit card a mod. But me, well the first thing is first - the next few checks will be saved for a 5-speed equipted parts car. Then LCA's/Subframes... Then saving for the BIG mod 400 SBC
Jess
[This message has been edited by Crusader (edited July 23, 2001).]
And I can return to you your steering wheel puller I meant to return when we met in Stanwood so Crista could drive the car.HAHAHA my unlce promote go fast mods?! That will be they day - when my uncle helps me plan a mod... But, no mods are planned with the $ from the 89 unless you count paying down the loan or credit card a mod. But me, well the first thing is first - the next few checks will be saved for a 5-speed equipted parts car. Then LCA's/Subframes... Then saving for the BIG mod 400 SBC
Jess
[This message has been edited by Crusader (edited July 23, 2001).]
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