Anyone wanna make a donation to the "help Chris go to DS Nights" fundraiser? haha

 

You got any spare parts lying around??? I'd be happy to help that way. You get some cash & I get some parts

 

Hmmm...lets see...the only parts I got would be...
[list=1][*]Nissan 200sx 14" aluminum rims w/ tires[*]1985 IROC-Z Hood[*]RS Camaro steering box[*]85ish Monte Carlo SS rims[*]Thirdgen hatch[*]91Z28 700r4 trans[*]91Z28 front bumper w/ headlights and turn signals (no lip)[/list=1]

Don't really have that much

 

What yr. RS did the box come out of & how much miles are on it?

How much mileage is on the trans?

Pm me for price range on both

 

Entry fee is $20 for the night event. I got you covered. We must tandem ...

 

I'll be there, but probably not in my Z28, I don't trust that thing with all the electrical issues further than five blocks from my house. On a side note, I don't know how I could help the Dori Dori fund... yet I'll find a way though... I'll bring food or something lol maybe... hmm...

 

Umm, I could bring a keg, that would be fun...

 

Okay well in that case theres a 99% chance that I'll be there. As for the keg...haha I dont wanna crash for that reason

 

Are you guys just going to the Sunday one or you going to the one on Saturday too?

 

I'm gonna be spectating and recording on Saturday (but no driving). Dont really want to experiment with my new tranny and hold everyone else up when I spin out (since its non stop lapping) and I'm just plain too chang to drop $65 on an event. I'm also gonna pre-register Chris and I for drifting on Sunday, so Chris, on Sunday goto the side entrance by the racing school (same one from the Signal Events) and they'll give you your number.

 

Hey Shawn, did you test drive the car on the road yet with the new trans? If so, how does it feel. I might go the 350 trans route next year when I race that's why.

 

So you guys are both there on sunday?

I saw a DS card flyer layin' around the classroom at my school today. Lotta ricers around that campus. They're always talkin' about drifting their FWD's. They even have their own parkin' section... haha.

I can count on my hand the number of muscle cars. 1 LX, 1 GT, and 2-3 v8 f-bodies. Nothin' else, 'cept a couple more v6 f-bodies. All 4th's except for a pretty clean white RS '91/92.

Scott

 

A lot of the guys at school know of the "white drifting camaro." I also usually hear that phrase followed by "...with the big wing."

Since monday is a holiday, I'm thinkin' about checking you guys out if you'll both be there on sunday. So, who else is going to check it out? It's 5 to 10 pm right?

Scott

 

I'll hopefully be there...I have to beg my Manager to let me come in early that day so I can have hte night off. But theres a 99% chance I should be there. Hopefully though I'll be able to fix my brake problem. For some reason its extremely weak and I cant really figure out why. I have a post up in the suspension/brakes tech board.

As for the "with the big wing" everyone says that to me too haha...some day I'll put a big wing on again. Though the next one will probably be carbon fiber or something. A little more subtle.

 

Shawn, saw you in your drift camaro today, you were right across of UH, i shaka'd you from the passenger side of an IS300. hehe i must say you did do a pretty damn good job on the paint for that thing.

 

Hey thanks brah, I really wish I could have got more coats on but we were spraying it in my uncles garage and the neighbors called the cops on us (rats!). If you see it in the day you might change your mind LOL!! I kissed the wall twice already hehehehe.

Yeah Chris and I should be down there on Sunday, I'm gonna go pre-pay for us today. Look for the 3rd gens and bring a helmet so you guys can ride.

The TH350 is great. I can tell its much stronger than my old 700R4 and I haven't really abused it yet. I didnt install the shift kit yet, hope to do it next weekend. Because 1st and 2nd are going full manual I'm not hooking up a kickdown cable. The only weird thing is driving on the freeway without the 4th gear. With my 2.77 rearend I have to be at 2500rpm minimum to go 50mph. I'm used to driving below 2000rpm so I find myself going 40-45mph on the freeway a lot (which pisses everyone off haha). Plus I dont have my lockup switch connected, so the car is a gas guzzler for now. TH350-C is probably your best bet for saving gas (with the lockup), but not as many performance upgrades out there as the regular TH350.

I was so happy to get the swap done I decided to goof around last night. Check it out. Download, unzip, and play.

 

Good to hear that everything is going well with the trans. Luckly my pink eye came back this morning...now I know your thinking "wtf is he happy for?" the answer? Because work wouldn't have let me off from work if I wasnt sick. Hell the pink eye isn't even that bad...just that its red. So now 100% that I will be there. Just got some more tires too so I should be ready.

Sorry Shawn that I didn't make it out last night. I started falling a sleep a little after you called so I just went home. Dont wanna ever fall asleep at the wheel again haha

Also I fixed my weak brake problem so I'll finally have some good brakes on my new Camaro!! WOO HOO!!

 

Hey Chris,

What was the culprit for your weak brakes? Was it just the proportioning valve? Or something else.

 

Yea it was the proportioning valve...I'm unsure though if it was broken or if it was just the 84 valve doesnt send much pressure. After I went 100% to the front and put the wilwood to the rear it stops good. I can even lock up the brakes if I slam on it.

 

Much thanks to Shawn for hooking me up with the entry fee. Much thanks man!

 

You guys were great, simply great, It was a relief to watch you guys after seeing only 240s and hatchis run. I got there just as you guys did that one tandem run, and all I could say was wow thats ****in crazy nuts. Neways it was good to see both of your cars in action for the first time.

Shawn, hehe i finally got to meet you, n thx for the torque arm help offer, i'll be sure to get back with you on that. I just gotta make sure my car can run safely first hehe... damn electrical system.

Chris, I didn't get a chance to talk to you, you seemed pretty busy, maybe next time hehe.. I love the exhaust. You really blew everyone else there away. What happened to your car towards the end?

 

Through out the day my car was having a stuttering problem. I was trying to figure out what was worng with my car. Later finding out that once my underhood temp heating up to high my car would stutter when hitting the gas. I really need to put a lower temp thermostat and a ram air setup. That heat up problem was screwing me over all night.

 

Although I agree that lowering the operating tempurature of SBC's to about 180-degrees is beneficial, I've found that even with a 160-degree thermostat and Hyperchip, my 5.7 is still marginal in the cooling department. Although it will cruise all around on a 90-degree day with the AC on and never go above 200-degrees, the car won't tolerate repeated sessions of hard acceleration and hard braking on a hot day when the engine temp is already close to 200-degrees unless I turn off the AC. This shows me the cooling system needs more capacity, such as a larger, aftermarket radiator.

There are several reasons why an engine runs poorly when too hot that lowering the operating tempurature may avoid but not cure. Of course none of these are AC-related in your race car, the harsh conditions of high rpm and hard acceleration produce a huge amount of heat by themselves.

At what coolent tempurature are you having problems?

 

Heh, cool video! The SBC sounds awesome ... would have been better to watch if the camera focused too...

 

Sorry to hear about your cooling problems Chris. You might wanna look into additional cooling for your other fluids as well since your car goes through high rpm abuse. I can't remember how everything looked under your hood since I've seen it last. I think that was a couple of months ago. But things like, trans coolers, oil coolers, & a bigger capacity radiator miiiiiight help you out with your cooling probs. Either that, you have too much cam huh lol! nah, never too much cam in my book. Anyways, hope you solve your problem. Laterz.

Anthony

 

Yeah DS was really fun, glad I got to tandem with Chris a few times. But I was pissed that I kept spinning out on the off-camber turn. That turn kicks my *** now with this green car, the rear just swings too easy. Cant figgure it out since I had it down with the red one. Must be my suspension tune or something (maybe too much throttle? LOL). Anyways, still had choke fun, only crashed once and made a bunch of tires fly but nothing serious (dented in the other side of my front fender/gfx to match hahah). I'm really liking the new TH350, but the car made a few weird noises when the rear swings around fast (like when laying smoke in the skidpad after spinning out). Gonna have to go over the swap and make sure everything is OK. Speaking of cooling problems, I got some major issues myself. Majority of the time I had to stop drifting it was because the car was getting ready to overheat. I definately need to fix this problem fast, 250 deg is NOT GOOD. I'm running a stock radiator with the stock dual fan setup, and a 180 degree thermostat with a 1/8th inch hole drilled. My problem is that I'm running the stock fan switch, turns on too late at 220 deg!! I had meant to wire both fans to a manual switch but didnt get it done in time. So it wasnt long before I hit 240 deg every time out there. I know if I get those fans wired up so I can turn them on when I want, then the temp will stay around 180. I got my orange car to maintain 180 in traffic at noon with the stock radiator and fans (good test BTW), but no clue how it will hold up to drifting. I have the feeling that eventually both Chris and I will need bigger radiators and better fan setups like Duck is saying.

 

Damn I'm pissed that I missed it. I totally forgot about it until about 8:00 pm so I just said screw it.

Get your fans on MUCH earlier (wire at least one on all the time) and you'll have much better cooling. I doubt it'll solve all your problems though.

I have a single fan setup that always runs with the key hot, and probably a 180' stat, never comes close to overheating even when I push her hard. (Only twice did I really overheat, both times the fan binded or something; it was a quick on-the-side-of-the-road fix.) I think this is with a v6 radiator but I have nothing to compare it to. Maybe Ed knows.

I remember reading about burnout-comp cars having industrial radiators with two high cfm fans wired on constantly because of the high rpm-low vehicle speed situation. I still don't know how fast you guys are moving since I keep flaking out, but I bet it'll make a noticable improvement. I keep hearing good things about 'purple ice' and those other coolant additives, might want to try a bottle or two of that also.

How much antifreeze is in your coolant anyway? I run mostly water....

Scott

 

Yea I really want to upgrade my radiator to a bigger one. I'm currently only running the factory radiator and factory fans. Though my fans come on earlier then Shawns at about 185 degrees. Which is still bad because my thermostat opens at 180degrees. Soon I want to upgrade also to aftermarket fans...my friend has a dual fan setup in his 240sx and it moves way more air then the factory setup. Also its flush againts the radiator so it'll probably move more air through it. I'm going to take another drop from the drifting scene until I'm able to put atleast this list of parts in my car.
[list=1][*]New tachometer - Don't buy gauges off ebay...stupid tach doesnt work good[*]Lower temp thermostat - Explains itself[*]Revlimiter - kinda ironic that my name is "REVLIMIT" and I have no revlimiter haha[*]Ram air or a hood scope - I have to try and keep my motor from sucking in hot air. My performance drops to much when my bay gets hot[/list=1]

Forgot to mention...anyone wanna buy a ram air box made for carb and TBI vehicles? You can check out Ramairbox.com for more info and pictures. The prices on their site are old though. I spent a total of $170 shipped for it. But I'm selling it for $100 because it won't work with my edelbrock STB.

 

There are other posts on this board where I went on rants about how could GM possibly overlook producing a proper shroud for fans ... so inefficient to have most of the radiator surface not used for proper air flow. I was going to fabricate a shroud mold for dual fans, but have since decided to upgrade to Spal fans when I move to AZ. These are the same that BeCool uses in their high-price catalog.

 

Yea what the hell was GM thinking when they put those fans. I was thinking the same thing before also. Cause the stock fans actually seem to move a pretty good amount of air...BUT half of that air is probably being sucked from the side of the fan! haha. I was considering also making a shroud...probably will soon.

 

Hey Chris, you know what would look really cool is an aluminum radiator & then fabricating a shroud for the fans out of aluminum also.....Just a thought

 

I should take another look at a dual fan setup. Because, I promise you that mine is much worse. It's a dinky little thing that's no where near the radiator. It's more like a water pump cooler.

Plus, mine doesn't even flow that much air... I'm not surprised to see it wired on all the time. My truck pulls more air at idle than my 'bird's fan ever has. Once the clutch fan as some rev's in it, that thing starts blowin' rust off the fenders!

Scott

 

Heh, that's funny ... just like my Astro Van when the engine starts the fan sounds like a diesel blower and it has a huge shroud too. As long as your AC isn't working, your car probably won't overheat. Still, dual electric fans close to the radiator would be an improvement.

 

hey ed, gotta love those viscus fans....... my old 81 z-28 had one. Noisey as hell till it warmed up. For cooling looking into a upgraded waterpump, one that can flow water fast with low rpm. Maybe you could playaround with pulley sizes, to try and overdrive , just the water pump. LASTLY, don't discount the hoses. Crap black rubber hoses can/will collapse in high demand.
wish ya well, kinda sucks i didn't get to watch you guys when I was in town. Do you guys post the videos at all? Would be great to watch fbodies sideways, after all the 180's and silvias i have to hear about over here. Lastly you guys drivin' imports (****) need parts? LSD's, and turbos are plenty available to me. the junkyards are right down the road. shawn

 

Yeah, I'd like to see some videos too. I saw a couple with you guys up in the mountains somewhere....

Shawn/IrocnRoll, you should post a link to that video you showed us of you doin' donuts.

 

i have no way to host..... i keep trying yahoo, but to no evale. any one wanna host a lil' burnout video. 1.5 meg or so

 

Anyone wanna buy a K&N stub stack made for Holley 4150/4160 model carbs? I bought one brand new but found out I cant use it with the cold air setup that I'm going to make. If I was keeping my open element it would have worked fine though. Rons sells it for around $45 and on top of that you have to wait a week or so for it to come in cause its special order. I'm taking a loss and selling it for $35

 

Can't use the stub stack, but I was wondering if you have a 91-92 wing I could buy to play with. If so, please let me know. Thanks, Ed

 

used to have one way back when but I sold it O_o Sorry

 

I had some cooling woes when I got the GTA, the pump was about ready to break and I had a stock thermostat. I ripped out the bad pump with a stock replacement, went to a 180 t-stat, new hoses and belt, and the only complaint I have now, is that the fans kick in too late, like everybody already said. Doesn't the fans kick in when the A/C is on or something like that? I've resorted to running the heater at full-blast a few times, like hwen it's stop-n-go traffic or some really long stop lights. Onc ehte car is even sorta moving, however, it cools down to a much nicer 190 or so, as opposed to lighting up the red little digit on the gage... (I got vertical digital LED gages, go figure.)

 

The AC on will start one of the dual fans, when the temp comes up, the other fan will kick in. I have a 160-degree thermostat and a Hyperchip to start the fans at lower than stock temps. However, you can change your wiring to manually start the fans anytime you like, or install a lower-temp sensor switch for the fans. It will be transparent to the computer.