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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 10:51 PM
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What small block nawwws setups are you running? How are they working for ya?

Hi! im considering running n2o on my 86 ta...ya i plan on sfc.s,2500 stall,beefing up this and that,etc etc. I understand the basic principals of n2o. I know stuff needs to be changed to hold up,but ive never used the stuff personally and need input,not a smart comment or another a-hole telling me to search for something i cant find(why did he think i posted?darrrr). WHat are you running? I plan on a 150 shot to start with,mabye adjust it to 200 after awhile(using nos"cheater"kit adjustable form 150-250 hp).I want to run a 78 chevy 350 small block 4 bolt...not sure on the valve sizes yet...hopefully the intakes are 2.02(would it make a whole krapload of difference if they were 1.92"?)...what compression ratio,piston+rod combos,and crank are you guys all running with your n2o???id imagine a steel crank is a good idea(does a stock old up tho?)....i have a new set of eagle polished rods from summit with arp bolts...would they hold up to a 150-200 shot of n2o?I plan on running a comp cam,springs,etc(thier nitrous hp series)that makes power from 2500-6500 rpm,and is specifically made to be used with a 125+ shot of n20..it also has a very rough idle(daddy likes lumpy mmmm lol)Im hoping my torker 2 open intake will work well with this stuff as well.I figured my new powdercoated 600 holley will have to go in favor of a 650 or 700 cfm dual inlet carb. I think my idea is on the right track,i just want to know what some other folks are running,and thier poinions and comments about thier setups(i.e. what they wouldnt buy again,what they would do different ,etc)
thanks!!!! please only people that want to really help reply,if you want to makea smart a$$ comment do it on another post please
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 08:12 AM
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Car: 1982 Z28
Engine: 355
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt
355,10:1 Manley forged full floating pistons(.024" ring gap first and second ring),Summit/Pro Line 4340 forged crank & rods,Comp XE274 cam,1.5 Pro Magnum roller rockers,Weiand Stealth dual plane,Speed Demon 750 DP,AFR 195(64cc) heads with 2.02/1.60 valves,Summit HEI with MSD 6AL.Nitrous Express Hitman Plus plate system with MSD RPM activated window switch for solenoid activation.I am very happy with NX to date.Right now I run a 100 shot but next summer plan to go higher when I get back to the track.A stock crank & rods can take nitrous up to a certain increase..I would go no higher than a 150 shot with stock.Others have done it..I am not that brave so I went forged when I built this motor for more juice.I can't say much on the torker intake,had one many years ago but don't remeber much about it besides it was on a very mismatched motor back then.As far as a carb..if you are gonna spray..go at least with a 750 for that motor,any smaller and you will be walking a fine line of disaster
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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Hey onebad82z,

> WHat are you running?

My mods are in my sig.

> I plan on a 150 shot to start with,mabye adjust it to 200 after
> awhile(using nos"cheater"kit adjustable form 150-250 hp)

Nice choice for a kit. For every 50hp of nitrous you inject into your motor, you *should* retard your timing 2 degrees. I run a 150hp shot and don't change my timing, but that's me.

> I want to run a 78 chevy 350 small block 4 bolt...not sure on
> the valve sizes yet...hopefully the intakes are 2.02(would it
> make a whole krapload of difference if they were 1.92"?)

You're definatly going to want bigger valves if you're going to rev this motor with or without nitrous.. Nitrous likes flow, especially on the exhaust side of things. A camshaft with more duration and lift on the exhaust lobe would be a plus.

> ...what compression ratio,piston+rod combos,and crank are
> you guys all running with your n2o???

I was running about 11:1 compression with my old heads but blew a head gasket as soon as I jumped my nitrous jets from 100hp to 150hp. I would recommend a nice 9.5:1 or 9.0:1 ratio for 150hp+ shot of juice. I'm around 9.3:1 and have had no problems with the 150 shot.

>id imagine a steel crank is a good idea(does a stock old up
>tho?)....i have a new set of eagle polished rods from summit
>with arp bolts...would they hold up to a 150-200 shot of n2o?

I'm only running a fresh stock bottom end with cast flat tops, but lord knows how long it will last.

> I plan on running a comp cam,springs,etc(thier nitrous hp
> series)that makes power from 2500-6500 rpm,and is
> specifically made to be used with a 125+ shot of n20..it also
> has a very rough idle(daddy likes lumpy mmmm lol)

I run the Comp Cams NX284H-13 (240/253, .507/.525). It works real well on the juice, but I find it lacks performance on its' own.

> Im hoping my torker 2 open intake will work well with this stuff
> as well.

I'm a big fan of the Vic Junior and then the Performer RPM.

> I figured my new powdercoated 600 holley will have to go in
> favor of a 650 or 700 cfm dual inlet carb.

I would suggest a Holley 750 vac sec dual feed carb.

> I think my idea is on the right track,i just want to know what
> some other folks are running,and thier poinions and comments
> about thier setups(i.e. what they wouldnt buy again,what they
> would do different ,etc)

It's hard for me to get a vision of where you're at and where you're going with what you've told us so all I can do is share what I know.

The one thing I should never have done was get rid of my forged bottom ended 400 sb motor.. That was dumb.

Cheers,
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 05:10 PM
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Car: 1982 Z28
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No official track times on juice yet..mainly a street race toy.I am going to the track next friday for a grudge race against a few other f bodies so I will post back after that fun eventHoping to/should be deep in the 11's on the juice or else I burn it.
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 11:18 PM
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badz,botlfed,thank a ton!!thats just what i needed to know! thanks for thr input!!! like i said it wont be a daily driver or anything,so the cam could be twoard the lumpy side and it wouldnt bopther me,but i understand how too big of a cam just hurts what your trying to do...other folks...what are you running with your nawwwwws ?lol
its nice to have some thirdgenners on here that actually like to help people unlike ...err...i wont say his name but his initials are b4ctom lol

Im on to n20!!!! hell yeah!!

however it might be delayed a bit. my garage got broken into this morning,they got into my caddie,ripped out my $1500 system and funked my dash up,stole all my cds and even my coin holder ...then they stole all 3 of my huge toolboxes,my compressor,all my air tools, my oxy-acetelene rig,etc....they started to take my welder but left it thank ***...
they even stole the cheapo jap socket set in my car,i have no sockets now at all ( They even took the rachet i had on the ground with my 3/8 allen,so i cant finish my rear brakes
damn thieves!!!!
now my garage has 3 deadbolts,and a 6' tall 1/4 plate bolted to the door latch beam
oh well thats life...nowe ill get nicer tools lol
im off to drink beer!!!:lala:
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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 02:49 PM
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Car: 88 Trans Am
Engine: lt1 intaked 355 makin 277 on 25 psi of fuel pressure and stock timing :)
Transmission: A4 stock... that moved a mobile dyno a foot shifting into 2nd :)
n20

i used a 5115 kit for a mustang... sprayed a 125 shot after the maf and got a 8.8 in the 1/8 i dont remember the MPH dont have the slips on me i am at work so... but was also on 28 inch tall slicks.... BOGGED down bad off the line..... but still a decent time... ran a 14.5 in the 1/4 with an 80 shot but never sprayed in 3rd... if i did then it would downshift into 2nd agian..... so
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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 10:32 PM
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Upon blowing up my good block trying to make a pass
with the charger and a 100 shot - on that pass I ran 10.32
@ 133 with a 2.1 60 ft (lots of spin) should have gone high 9's.
After that pass I replaced that block with a stocker out of my old truck,put on my heads,cam and 100 shot only (no charger)
10.89@ 125
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 01:22 AM
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sweet 87,and i see yo uhave eagle rods too....this is helping tremendously...who else is on the laughing gas?what motor parts are yo urunning with your nawwws lol
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