What trans to use
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What trans to use
Most of you guys on this board are making big power. I am eventually going to build a supercharged 396ci small block for my car. Anyway, I have had it with breaking transmissions. I like shifting my own gears but do not think any streetable manual will hold up behind the HP (750 + hopefully) I want to make. If there is one, let me know of it. I have been looking into the Art Carr 200 4R, and it looks like it would handle the power and since the 200 4R has less parasitic loss than most other overdrives it would be the best of both worlds. Any Ideas would be great...(I want a lenco...but the price tag makes me go into cardiac arrest)
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cool...how has your t5 been holding up....im getting my motor back on wednesday and i should be easily in the 400 hp range
i see u ran a 12 flat...was that with the t-5??...i am also wondering if the trans will hold up..
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i see u ran a 12 flat...was that with the t-5??...i am also wondering if the trans will hold up..
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third gear syncro is the weak spot. it has held up alright, I had it rebuilt about 2 mos ago and 3rd gear syncro is already shot again. This is strange because I bought the tranny used (it was in a low 13 sec car before mine) and had well over 100k miles on it. I used it for about a year before anything ever went wrong with it. Now the same syncro went out in less than 2 mos? kinda strange to me. Yes the 12.0 was on the T-5, but as you can see by the MPH I was not hooking at all. I think if you ever hooked hard on this tranny, it would break.
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If you are thinking about an Auto I would suggest a 200R4, or a TH400 with a GV OD unit. I think that a build 200R4 is cheaper than the other option. as for a stick............?????? got me. There are always JeffCo's
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Car: 1989 Camaro
Engine: 406
Transmission: Pro-built 700R4
Go check out www.pro-built.net and look into his 700 and 200R4's if you want a damn strong overdrive tranny. I went through a B&M and a TCI 700R4 before I found out about probuilt. I bought it put it in and I have not had any more trouble out of my car. Dana (the guy that owns pro-built) has some guys running deep into the 10's on his overdrive trannys. The customer service can't be beaten. Dana takes alot of time with each of his customers to make sure you get what you want. Don't just take my word for it, do a search on this board, I bet you find nothing but praise about his tranny's.
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the 200 can be built to withstand 9 second passes and 1000ft/lbs of torque, but it will cost you about $3000 for it
I wouldn't trust a 700 tranny even if *** BUILT IT for much faster than 10 seconds unless you drag race it like twice a year
WHY THE HELL IS G-O-D EDITED?
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I wouldn't trust a 700 tranny even if *** BUILT IT for much faster than 10 seconds unless you drag race it like twice a year
WHY THE HELL IS G-O-D EDITED?
what kinda censoring is that?
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Car: 1990 Camaro RS
Engine: Juiced 5.0 TBI - 300rwhp
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton Posi, 10 Bolt
bbhunting, what kind of power is that making? i saw a dyno there and i though it was upper 400 range, which is still within the TKO torque specs, if he is going to make 750+hp, i assume he will be above the 500 torque rating of the TKO.
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Car: 1990 Camaro RS
Engine: Juiced 5.0 TBI - 300rwhp
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton Posi, 10 Bolt
thanks, i was just wondering, i am going to be building mine up here over the next year (twin tubo cross your fingers for me please ) and i would like to keep it manual if i can , but was scared of spending the cash for a TKO, only to rip it to shreads because i make more than 500 ft/lbs
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Car: 1990 IROC Z
Engine: blown 390 CI
Transmission: TKO II
my brother has been having good luck with a 93' T-56 (car in video in sig) that has dynoed at 636 HP & 622 TQE. Drag raced & road course abuse.
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Car: 1990 Camaro RS
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i was thinking either the tremec t56, or the TKO. i would like a 6 speed, but would go 4 speed, if it means i won't blow it up
i think the factory t56's are actualy rated higher than the aftermarket t56, so i may need to consider that route.
i think the factory t56's are actualy rated higher than the aftermarket t56, so i may need to consider that route.
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Car: 1992 B4C 1LE
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Originally posted by bbunting
my brother has been having good luck with a 93' T-56 (car in video in sig) that has dynoed at 636 HP & 622 TQE. Drag raced & road course abuse.
my brother has been having good luck with a 93' T-56 (car in video in sig) that has dynoed at 636 HP & 622 TQE. Drag raced & road course abuse.
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Car: 1992 B4C 1LE
Engine: Proaction 412, Accel singleplane
Transmission: built 700R4 w/custom converter
Axle/Gears: stock w/later 4th gen torsen pos
Originally posted by Dewey316
i was thinking either the tremec t56, or the TKO. i would like a 6 speed, but would go 4 speed, if it means i won't blow it up
i think the factory t56's are actualy rated higher than the aftermarket t56, so i may need to consider that route.
i was thinking either the tremec t56, or the TKO. i would like a 6 speed, but would go 4 speed, if it means i won't blow it up
i think the factory t56's are actualy rated higher than the aftermarket t56, so i may need to consider that route.
Originally posted by IROCFAST What is the difference between the T56 in the camaro and the one in the viper that is rated at 550ftlbs? Can you make the one from the camaro's stronger?
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Car: 1992 B4C 1LE
Engine: Proaction 412, Accel singleplane
Transmission: built 700R4 w/custom converter
Axle/Gears: stock w/later 4th gen torsen pos
I like the T56 there is a good post on how to put one of these in your car here on the third gen homepage. I did it once a long time ago and got one of centerforces first "2 piece rear main seal to LT1 clutch" flywheels, built my own X-member, and dealt with available clutch shortcomings at the time by using a stock clutch cover and a ram 900 disc. That is what was in my JYD (picture) when I sold it (movie). I intend to use a T56 in my 91 Z drag car project with one of the Spohn tranny swap X-member/torquearm kit for T56
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Hey Brit, I am still interested in any parts you have if you get a auto tranny. i want the 5 speed for my vert. i got a TH400 w/brake for the Bad406Z. Hey check out my car at www.Bad406Z.netfirms.com , later- steve
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Originally posted by 89ProchargedROC
WHY THE HELL IS G-O-D EDITED?
WHY THE HELL IS G-O-D EDITED?
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Car: 1992 B4C 1LE
Engine: Proaction 412, Accel singleplane
Transmission: built 700R4 w/custom converter
Axle/Gears: stock w/later 4th gen torsen pos
there are a variety of insignificant differences between the viper and f-body trans
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I don't know that anyone exactly knows. I've heard 2 different answers to this, one that input shaft is bigger and another that it is made of a different metal/heat treat. Either way, the viper input shaft will not match the factory T56 which will not match the aftermarket T56 (the factory f-body and vette manual tranny's used an odd bellhousing that requires an input shaft that is roughly a 1/2" longer then the standard chevy v-8 setup).
BTW, seems like when you get the car down into the 11's the T56 becomes a wear item. There's a few local guys that have gotten really good at rebuilding them and are doing it about 2x a year and they're only in the high 11's. They don't seem to 'break' as much as they just seem to wear out and get cranky like a high mileage manual tranny.
BTW, seems like when you get the car down into the 11's the T56 becomes a wear item. There's a few local guys that have gotten really good at rebuilding them and are doing it about 2x a year and they're only in the high 11's. They don't seem to 'break' as much as they just seem to wear out and get cranky like a high mileage manual tranny.
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http://www.g-forcetransmissions.com/tran_gf5r.asp
http://www.jericoperformance.com/products/rr5spd.html
http://www.richmondgear.com/catalogpdf/catpg28-32.pdf
oooo, ahhh, ohhhh.....
The jerico and the g-force are just plain badass. For your information, the g-force is the tranny that was used in the recent (late '90's) LS1 Camaro that ran 9's. The Richmond is actually a very similar design (there's speculation that they are essentially the same designed by the same person. Parts do interchange), but I'd wonder about the Richmond since I've never heard of anyone happy with their 6 speed.
http://www.jericoperformance.com/products/rr5spd.html
http://www.richmondgear.com/catalogpdf/catpg28-32.pdf
oooo, ahhh, ohhhh.....
The jerico and the g-force are just plain badass. For your information, the g-force is the tranny that was used in the recent (late '90's) LS1 Camaro that ran 9's. The Richmond is actually a very similar design (there's speculation that they are essentially the same designed by the same person. Parts do interchange), but I'd wonder about the Richmond since I've never heard of anyone happy with their 6 speed.
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(Sorry for the slight discontinuity in my last 2 replys, I typed them around dinner time and just before I sent them I got a phone call that my brother was in a car accedent and just got back now and hit submit)
I don't know for sure that the tailhousing is different (doesn't really make a difference if they are all cast with a TA mount and just not used in other applications), but that would be insignificant anyway. The input shaft is definitly stronger on them, but like I already said, no one has really confirmed if it's size or material (I believe andris posted to another list that he was told by someone that it is bigger).
I don't know for sure that the tailhousing is different (doesn't really make a difference if they are all cast with a TA mount and just not used in other applications), but that would be insignificant anyway. The input shaft is definitly stronger on them, but like I already said, no one has really confirmed if it's size or material (I believe andris posted to another list that he was told by someone that it is bigger).
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