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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 09:46 PM
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Going AWD Turbo.

I got a killer deal on a 1991 egale talon TSi AWD. I know I seen a DSM guy on here before, what to fast help. Whats mods make a Turbo go faster and why do they help?
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 10:02 PM
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 10:13 AM
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 04:44 AM
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or email me, i had a talon AWD till problems happened.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 03:56 PM
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lol
Did you think I was talking about the Camaro. Thinks for the links guys, they have been a big help. Now lets see which car goes fastest 305 + N2O or I4 + turbo. Man I love cars.

Just a side note I'm having problems finding a exaush with out a big ***** type tip!
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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 06:44 PM
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DSM talk is crap. I use dsmtuners.com. The first place you should go is dsm.org. If you read through the 1000's of FAQ's there you will be good to go.

The first thing you HAVE to buy is a boost gauge. The stock one is useless.

Feel free to email me if you have any questions.

Happy boosting!
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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 09:40 PM
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Having built 4g63 engines for Track and Street use along with 1 and 2 g chassis I can tell you a few things.

1. These cars were built extremely over engineered and extremely cheap.

2. Due to their long list of problems stock replacement hard parts like cylinder heads and timing components are now non-existant.

3. Consumable parts like fuel pumps and such are also becoming very expensive and hard to find.

4. The aftermarket for these cars is Huge so most, Parts can be bought 3rd party, the only down side is the cost.

5. These cars esp the 1 g chassis can be extremely serious performance cars, rivaling such cars as the RX7 and Supra.

6. Due to the complexity of these cars you must be able to work on it yourself because 80% of shops will not have the tools, information or know how to do work properly. I work for a BMW Mercedes, VW , Audi Specialty shop and we have DSM's lined up out the door that have been hacked at places like Canadian Tire and Sears. (this is due to the shops reputation for fixing odd cars like the Audi 5000S properly)

7. Assume the worst and hope for the best

www.dsmtuners.com is the best site on the net, check it out and post back if you have anymore questions.
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 11:46 PM
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i agree with omega and iroc4life.i use both boards,but dsmtuners seems to have a little bit more knowledge under its belt.hell they have a group of members called "wisemen" that are long time posters that know just about everything there is to know about DSM's.and they have their own board that normal members cant even post on,just read.so i would def recommend joining both boards and going to www.vfaq.com .there is a ton of info there.and if you wanna talk or have a question about DSM's,feel free to email me.racer9682@yahoo.com .im still in the learning stages myself,but i have also learned a great deal already about them.good luck with the car.theyre a blast!!
oh yeah and i might be that DSM guy that youre talking about
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 04:21 PM
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AWD DSM's EAT TRANNIES! But the 1st gens can run 12's for just a few bucks.
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Old Nov 29, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by new87
Just a side note I'm having problems finding a exaush with out
a big ***** type tip!

yeah I think I'm stuck with the 3 1/2 inch tip myself


but at least I am going to be using dual 2 1/2 inch pipes or maybe a single 3" though I doubt it
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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crank up the boost with a boost controller. thats what my bro did..
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by rx7speed
yeah I think I'm stuck with the 3 1/2 inch tip myself


but at least I am going to be using dual 2 1/2 inch pipes or maybe a single 3" though I doubt it
All the DSM guys seem to make fun of the people who put dual exhausts on Eclipses or Talons. Most of them think it's unecessary and just for show so you'll get labelled a "riceboy" by doing that. But I had an exhaust with a huge-*** 5" tip on my '97 Eclipse GS-T and it attracted some negative attention from a jerk police officer one time. He gave me a modified exhaust ticket. What a d*ck.

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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 03:22 AM
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Originally posted by MdFormula350
crank up the boost with a boost controller. thats what my bro did..
I also had a manual boost controller on my GS-T and it spiked like hell. (That means the boost would come on too strong and "spike" up to say, 18-20 psi before settling down to the desired level of maybe 15-16 psi.) Not good. Manual boost controllers don't really control the boost at all, they simply allow it to be raised. If I had it to do over again I would definitely spend the extra cash and get an electronic controller that won't spike at all, therefore allowing you to run higher boost without fear of it going over the desired pressure and melting your internals. The electronic ones also give you the advantage of adjusting boost pressure from the cockpit.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 01:30 PM
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MBC's(manual boost controllers) really arent that bad.I personally have a Hallman MBC and i love it.cost me like 52 bucks,and its sooo easy to hook up and use.just requires 5 minutes of time to get it set to what you want,but you can buy a kit that allows the controller to be adjusted from inside the car,although thats like 80 bucks,and not really worth the time unless you turn your boost up for street racing.anyways mine only spikes to about 2 pounds higher than what i have it set for,and thats only for a second.The electronic controllers arent worth the money until you start spending big $$$ and your running low 12's or quicker.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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Yeah, I've heard those Hallman ones aren't total junk like the HKS one I had. But still, any spike at all, even two pounds, can be detrimental to your internals over time if you set it to say, 18 psi and it spikes to 20. Maybe you can get away with a small spike if you have an AFC to control the fuel trims and make sure it's not running lean and detonating, but, for my money, I'd go with an electronic one. Mine also may have spiked because the lines I used to rig it to the turbo were kind of long. MBC's need the shortest possible tubing which is why most people opt to mount them in the engine compartment rather than in the cockpit.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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I liked the Apex boost controller I saw on a 3000gt recently very simple and straight forward. The HKS one I put on the shop's DSM project didnt make me very happy. We went with the nasty Buscher racing package.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by BlueSexMachine
All the DSM guys seem to make fun of the people who put dual exhausts on Eclipses or Talons. Most of them think it's unecessary and just for show so you'll get labelled a "riceboy" by doing that. But I had an exhaust with a huge-*** 5" tip on my '97 Eclipse GS-T and it attracted some negative attention from a jerk police officer one time. He gave me a modified exhaust ticket. What a d*ck.
don't drive a DSM

just more or less a reference to him trying to find some mufflers with small tips on them


it's not the easiest thing to do on a import car anymore almost anything is HUGE
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 04:24 PM
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I wanna 2 gen RX7 with an LS1 and T56kinda like this but with a LS1
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