I need some pics of an 82-92 with a 10 point cage. I am trying to get some ideas for my 8to 10 point conversion. If anyone has nay please let me know.

 

I would post some but I dont know how. Anyone care to help me post some pic.

 

The main pics I need are of the halo bar, and the bars running down through the dash. I am just rying to get ideas for my conversion. I got kicked out of a few tracks last year and want be to be legal this year with a 10 point. I need to get some good images so I can see how the bars going through the dash are done. Ihave seen some that go infront of the dash, and I dont care for that. its to uncomfortable there. Any help would be great.

 

Here's a few pics of the front area of my cage during construction:

 

With dash carrier installed:

 

View through dash carrier showing "dash" bar:

 

Another photo with the rear portion of cage dropped through the floor. Assembling a cage using this method allows complete welds of all tubing junctions, while still having a very tight fit against the roof:

 

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Having trouble attaching more pics. The TGO server might still have a few bugs in it since the crash. Will try to post some more tomorrow.

 

 

 

thanx for the help guys...

 

Here's a few of various cars I've done.

Jessie

http://photobucket.com/albums/v739/red91z/

 

wow those look great. you must sleep with tubing

 

Hey mike, that’s pretty clever putting the joint at the base of the a-pillar… I bet that made the thing loads easier to weld up. How was fitting the dash up around that?

I have wondered about stuff like that before, is it technically legal to have extra joints? I’ve seen some pretty explicit descriptions of the front bars being either a halo bar or 2 side bars with a ‘skull crusher’ across the top of the windshield.

Also, do you have bars going along the rockers? I don’t see them in the pictures (again, one of those bars that is specified on the NHRA diagrams but I’ve seen not installed in a lot of cars as best as I can tell, and I’ve wondered if it could be put in below the floor).

I also find it interesting that both you and Guido both located the rear X brace connected roughly above the shock mounts and then ran separate bars all the way to the back. I would imagine if you’re going to run separate bars it would be strongest to run them to about where the tops of the spring pockets are, since there really isn’t any structure behind there. Why did both of you run the bars all the way back? The only thing I can think of is to add some marginal protection to the gas tank area in the case of a rear end collision, but I’m not sure that you’re really adding much WRT to that.

 

Not only does it make it much easier to weld everything up after it has been spotted together, you can get the bars very close to the roof and A-pillars this way, and still have complete welds. Look again at my second pic, and see how the cage just disappears into the car. As far as the dash carrier, I didn't have to modify anything. The factory lower dash carrier mounting tabs were removed (just above the kick panels), and new tabs were welded onto the ;ower A-pillar bars in that same area. My car is non-AC, so the air ducts weren't a problem. With a minor modification, I was able to re-install the defroster duct between my dash bar and firewall. The dash pad itself was a real pain to get fitted, since the bars go through it at such a sharp angle.

It's perfectly legal, and my car has passed NHRA cert. A high end Super Stock chassis builder showed me this assembly technique. Also note in the first picture how you can't see the weld joints where the bars that go through the firewall attach to the lower A-pillar bars. The tubes are very close to the firewall and A-pillar (touching in some areas), and there is no way to even partially weld them in their current position. Again, this was spot welded together as an assembly (lower A-pillar, dash, and "firewall" bars), and partially removed to complete the weld (tubing joints), then permanently welded back in place (to the floor and strut tower).

The rocker bars aren't required unless the factory floor (within the driver/passenger area of the roll cage) or rocker box have been removed/replaced. The rule book is kinda vague here, but the rocker box on our cars is considered to be the frame. I don't have them because I feel they do nothing structurally, and are just added weight.

There is no X-brace on my car. Here's another pic of the rear portion of my cage:



The bars coming from the main hoop do go directly to my rear shock/spring crossmember. The tubes going to the rear bumper (and the diagonals going to my ladder bar crossmember) area are only 1 1/4" x .065" tubing.