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Old Aug 23, 2001 | 01:41 AM
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Heads to compliment N2O

My mods are listed below. I want a set of heads that will work well with the 5151 NOS kit. Am I right in assuming that I should stick with Iron heads to keep the CR low? How big should I get with combustion chambers (64cc,76cc?) and intake runners 180cc-230c?). A cam and custom chip would probably follow the heads along with some ignition stuff to pull timing, colder plugs, and other N2O precautions. Any info on the subject would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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Old Aug 23, 2001 | 04:58 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Iroc n roll:
Am I right in assuming that I should stick with Iron heads to keep the CR low?</font>
High or low compression ratios can work quite suitably with nitrous oxide provided the proper balance of nitrous and fuel enrichment is maintained. NOS kits are used in applications from relatively low compression stock type motors to Pro-Modifieds, which often exceed 15 to 1. Generally, the higher the compression ratio, the more ignition retard, as well as higher octane fuel, is required.
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A cam and custom chip would probably follow the heads along with some ignition stuff to pull timing, colder plugs, and other N2O precautions.</font>
It is best to choose a cam tailored to normal use (when nitrous is not activated) since 99% of most vehicle operation is not at full throttle. There are special cam grinds available for nitrous competition which have more aggressive exhaust profiles etc. Since cam selection depends largely on vehicle weight, gearing, etc., it is best to stick to cam manufacturer's recommendations for your particular goal.

Only if the chip had been designed specifically for use with nitrous oxide. Most aftermarket chips use more aggressive timing advance curves to create more power. This can lead to potential detonation and when dealing with N20 it means it literally.


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Old Aug 24, 2001 | 02:52 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Iroc n roll:
Am I right in assuming that I should stick with Iron heads to keep the CR low? How big should I get with combustion chambers (64cc,76cc)?

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iron or aluminum shouldnt affect the compression raito of an engine much, if any. it should only have to do with the volume of the cylinders, combustion chamber cc, head gasket cc, and piston valve relief cc and maybe piston to deck clearance, but im not sure about that one. i would get the heads that would best suit your needs within a reasonable cc, then you can get all different types of pistons to get your desired CR. (i.e. dished, flat top, domed)



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Old Aug 24, 2001 | 07:35 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Iroc n roll:
My mods are listed below. I want a set of heads that will work well with the 5151 NOS kit. Am I right in assuming that I should stick with Iron heads to keep the CR low? How big should I get with combustion chambers (64cc,76cc?) and intake runners 180cc-230c?). A cam and custom chip would probably follow the heads along with some ignition stuff to pull timing, colder plugs, and other N2O precautions. Any info on the subject would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Small chamber AL heads.
Smooth out the chambers.
The smaller chamber has less surface area so less heat is absorbed by the cooling system, meaning it's used to push the piston down. Properly tune in a 10:1 motor they only need to run 28d timing, so when you do retard the timing it's not as costly.

Might start while stock learning about chips, rather then when everything is done, and go "now what".

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