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Heres the setup -
350 .040 over thus giving a 357
AFR 195cc heads 68cc combustion giving 9.5 ratio 2.02 int flowing 260cfm at .500 1.6 exh flowing 190cfm at .500 lift and my springs are limited to .550lift
Hooker 2055 Headers along with 3" exhaust
TPI setup stock at moment however will adjust this to match afr 195cc head flow numbers or as close as possible.
Vortec V1 Supercharger will be running low psi around 6-8
Now my question is what would be the right cam for this setup to get the most potential power from the motor saying my rpm will max at 6000.
And will I have to run 92+ oct gas or can I run 87 ?
350 .040 over thus giving a 357
AFR 195cc heads 68cc combustion giving 9.5 ratio 2.02 int flowing 260cfm at .500 1.6 exh flowing 190cfm at .500 lift and my springs are limited to .550lift
Hooker 2055 Headers along with 3" exhaust
TPI setup stock at moment however will adjust this to match afr 195cc head flow numbers or as close as possible.
Vortec V1 Supercharger will be running low psi around 6-8
Now my question is what would be the right cam for this setup to get the most potential power from the motor saying my rpm will max at 6000.
And will I have to run 92+ oct gas or can I run 87 ?
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Car: Z-28
Engine: 383 stroker
Transmission: 700r4
I would recommend the following:
I:220, E:230, LSA 114 degrees. Speed-Pro has a nice one with these specs and its only about $175.00. I assume that this is for a street car. I'm sure you'll get 100 more opinions on this but these numbers will give you lots of performance. If you keep the boost to around 6PSI, you won't have any problems with octane, head gaaskets, etc. 9.5:1 is not bad but 6PSI is about all you should push. That'll give you a good 525 hp (or about) at the crank. Do you already have the heads? They (AFR) make 74cc too. If you drop your compression to around 8.5:1, you could run 8-10 PSI and make about 600hp. That's my 2 cents.
I:220, E:230, LSA 114 degrees. Speed-Pro has a nice one with these specs and its only about $175.00. I assume that this is for a street car. I'm sure you'll get 100 more opinions on this but these numbers will give you lots of performance. If you keep the boost to around 6PSI, you won't have any problems with octane, head gaaskets, etc. 9.5:1 is not bad but 6PSI is about all you should push. That'll give you a good 525 hp (or about) at the crank. Do you already have the heads? They (AFR) make 74cc too. If you drop your compression to around 8.5:1, you could run 8-10 PSI and make about 600hp. That's my 2 cents.
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yea, you'll need 92 octane. No chance of running a blower with 87 octane.
you want a roller cam or flat tappet?
you want a roller cam or flat tappet?
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Car: Z-28
Engine: 383 stroker
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You'll need bigger injectors too. I'd say 50-60 pph. I would also recommend that you use Peak and Hold (low impedance) injectors. This requires a driver but they're available. Again, you're going to hear 100 more opinions on that too but here's the thing. When you double the injector size, you cut the pulsewidth/hp in half. Example: Let's ay your cruise characteristics are the following : RPM 1800, Speed 65MPH, MPG 24.0, the injector pulsewidth is 0.8ms with 22pph injectors. With 55pph injectors the pulsewidth is 0.32ms! That's for a double-fire TPI computer (1227165, 1227730). Those are pretty narrow pulses!! The low impedance injectors are much faster, can respond to narrower pulses, are easier to tune and will give you lots of hp AND great cruise performance. Gas ain't cheap. That makes 4 cents from me.
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Car: 1988 camaro z28,1997 camaro lt1
Engine: 355 afr 195 heads,tpis big mouth
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they have 60 pound motron injectors that you can run with the stock ecm.
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Sure they do but you won't get good idle and cruise performance unless you use peak and hold. Surely, we will soon here from someone who CLAIMS they're running 65 pph saturated injectors in a 5.7 and getting 25 MPG. Don't you believe it!
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Originally Posted by Destructive099
350 .040 over thus giving a 357
AFR 195cc heads 68cc combustion giving 9.5 ratio 2.02 int flowing 260cfm at .500 1.6 exh flowing 190cfm at .500 lift and my springs are limited to .550lift
Hooker 2055 Headers along with 3" exhaust
TPI setup stock at moment however will adjust this to match afr 195cc head flow numbers or as close as possible.
Vortec V1 Supercharger will be running low psi around 6-8
Now my question is what would be the right cam for this setup to get the most potential power from the motor saying my rpm will max at 6000.
AFR 195cc heads 68cc combustion giving 9.5 ratio 2.02 int flowing 260cfm at .500 1.6 exh flowing 190cfm at .500 lift and my springs are limited to .550lift
Hooker 2055 Headers along with 3" exhaust
TPI setup stock at moment however will adjust this to match afr 195cc head flow numbers or as close as possible.
Vortec V1 Supercharger will be running low psi around 6-8
Now my question is what would be the right cam for this setup to get the most potential power from the motor saying my rpm will max at 6000.
As far as cam for a supercharger that will get into about that range I’d be looking at the CC lobes and something in the 224/236/114 range, something more like 218/230/114 or maybe even 212/224/114 would be more appriate for the rest of your combination, but you’ll be looking at something that will most likely top out in the mid/high 5xxx range with those.
Really, on the smaller ones I’d probably seriously consider a 112 LSA, but it will be more difficult to tune correctly and be much more dependant on getting things tweaked just so.
And will I have to run 92+ oct gas or can I run 87 ?
The bigger the cam the less octane sensitive it will be, but still, with that compression and boost you’re pretty much stuck. A point less compression and things change dramatically, my brother’s car runs about 8.6:1, 10psi boost and runs about the same on 87 as it does on premium, but only gets raced on 92+ anyway just for safety.
Originally Posted by roarin_mouse
Sure they do but you won't get good idle and cruise performance unless you use peak and hold. Surely, we will soon here from someone who CLAIMS they're running 65 pph saturated injectors in a 5.7 and getting 25 MPG. Don't you believe it!
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