Computer Options
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From: NYC / Jersey
Car: 1990 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Turbo 305 w/MS2
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Computer Options
Originally Posted by Six_Shooter
I don't know how the LS PCM deals with positive intake pressure, they use a MAF and 1 BAR MAP sensor IIRC...
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From: Panama City FL
Car: 87 Iroc
Engine: Turbocharged 5.7 Pro-Fl-XT
Transmission: 700R4 for moment
Axle/Gears: 3.25 9 inch
Re: Computer Options
I had $59 in it and it was great (as naturally aspirated at the time). The last thing I had to do before the turbo install was upgrade to larger injectors. It was just surge in AFR from 10.0 to 20.0 non stop with the new injectors installed. Nothing I did resolved the issue other than putting the stock injectors back on. I didn't have any others to try and I wasn't about to give up a brand new set of 65 lb/hr Precision Turbo injectors.
What did you not like about your fast system? Was it the XFI? Im really trying to decide what i want. My A/c does work so i would like to keep it as well. I have been reading the big books on tuning and its making more sense to me but still havent decided on a system yet.
For my AC, I've been adding 100 rpm to the idle table in the hot months. Helps a lot but then the car is always pushing at lights if the AC is off, and when it's ON it still stalls out at times.
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,532
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From: NYC / Jersey
Car: 1990 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Turbo 305 w/MS2
Transmission: 700R4
Re: Computer Options
Originally Posted by ZZ3Astro
I had $59 in it and it was great (as naturally aspirated at the time). The last thing I had to do before the turbo install was upgrade to larger injectors. It was just surge in AFR from 10.0 to 20.0 non stop with the new injectors installed. Nothing I did resolved the issue other than putting the stock injectors back on. I didn't have any others to try and I wasn't about to give up a brand new set of 65 lb/hr Precision Turbo injectors...
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From: Panama City FL
Car: 87 Iroc
Engine: Turbocharged 5.7 Pro-Fl-XT
Transmission: 700R4 for moment
Axle/Gears: 3.25 9 inch
Re: Computer Options
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Car: 1973 Datsun 240Z/ 1985 S-15 Jimmy
Engine: Turbo LX9/To be decided
Transmission: 5-speed/T-5
Axle/Gears: R200 3.90/7.5" 3.73
Re: Computer Options
Did you adjust the injector vs batt compensation table? This seems to cause/reduce surging, especially when switching to injectors very dis-similar to the stock injectors, and larger injectors just seem to make it worse.
BTW, your video is set to "private."
BTW, your video is set to "private."
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Joined: Jul 1999
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From: Panama City FL
Car: 87 Iroc
Engine: Turbocharged 5.7 Pro-Fl-XT
Transmission: 700R4 for moment
Axle/Gears: 3.25 9 inch
Re: Computer Options
oops... fixed!
I did a little bit of everything for the two months I fought with it. Really don't remember much though.. I didn't want to remember the crap I went through with it LOL
I did a little bit of everything for the two months I fought with it. Really don't remember much though.. I didn't want to remember the crap I went through with it LOL
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From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Re: Computer Options
You know, the documentation is kinda iffy, but the more I read the board schematics and what documentation there is, the more I realize how powerful the MS actually is.
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Car: 86 MCSS-87 Z28
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Axle/Gears: 3.73 both cars
Re: Computer Options
As someone who has gone through a number of systems, I am now running a Holley HP. Best system I ever played with. My car has a SBC with a 20lb ProCharger. I run a Meth/Water system with the Holley. It has a built in 2 step and total fan control(shuts off fans automatically on a run) You can run your NOS either straight or progressive. This is with the base HP system, $1500 for ECM,wiring harness and sensors.
The self learn features make it a snap to get running and not spend hours just to get an idle. Sequential injection and individual cyl timing control if needed. It can run low or high impedance injectors with ecm control of a boost fuel pump if needed. $1500 is not cheap but I got rid of a Meth/Water controller, 2 step box and a whole bunch of wiring.
Fairly large user base from 250hp to 1800hp. Take your old engine harness out and plug in Holley harness for TPI. It data logs everything including fuel and oil pressure. It was one of the easiest systems to learn for me. I have tuned using the Ostrich, 950 Commander and LS PCM. They all require a lot of skill in tuning and are easy to go in the wrong direction and hurt a motor esp with power adders. The Holley is not fool proof, BUT, will put a new tuner miles ahead in getting their engine up and running well.
This is aimed more towards the OP then those experienced tuners that have posted in this thread.
The self learn features make it a snap to get running and not spend hours just to get an idle. Sequential injection and individual cyl timing control if needed. It can run low or high impedance injectors with ecm control of a boost fuel pump if needed. $1500 is not cheap but I got rid of a Meth/Water controller, 2 step box and a whole bunch of wiring.
Fairly large user base from 250hp to 1800hp. Take your old engine harness out and plug in Holley harness for TPI. It data logs everything including fuel and oil pressure. It was one of the easiest systems to learn for me. I have tuned using the Ostrich, 950 Commander and LS PCM. They all require a lot of skill in tuning and are easy to go in the wrong direction and hurt a motor esp with power adders. The Holley is not fool proof, BUT, will put a new tuner miles ahead in getting their engine up and running well.
This is aimed more towards the OP then those experienced tuners that have posted in this thread.
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From: Brighton, TN
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: 383
Transmission: tci 700r4
Axle/Gears: 373
Re: Computer Options
As someone who has gone through a number of systems, I am now running a Holley HP. Best system I ever played with. My car has a SBC with a 20lb ProCharger. I run a Meth/Water system with the Holley. It has a built in 2 step and total fan control(shuts off fans automatically on a run) You can run your NOS either straight or progressive. This is with the base HP system, $1500 for ECM,wiring harness and sensors.
The self learn features make it a snap to get running and not spend hours just to get an idle. Sequential injection and individual cyl timing control if needed. It can run low or high impedance injectors with ecm control of a boost fuel pump if needed. $1500 is not cheap but I got rid of a Meth/Water controller, 2 step box and a whole bunch of wiring.
Fairly large user base from 250hp to 1800hp. Take your old engine harness out and plug in Holley harness for TPI. It data logs everything including fuel and oil pressure. It was one of the easiest systems to learn for me. I have tuned using the Ostrich, 950 Commander and LS PCM. They all require a lot of skill in tuning and are easy to go in the wrong direction and hurt a motor esp with power adders. The Holley is not fool proof, BUT, will put a new tuner miles ahead in getting their engine up and running well.
This is aimed more towards the OP then those experienced tuners that have posted in this thread.
The self learn features make it a snap to get running and not spend hours just to get an idle. Sequential injection and individual cyl timing control if needed. It can run low or high impedance injectors with ecm control of a boost fuel pump if needed. $1500 is not cheap but I got rid of a Meth/Water controller, 2 step box and a whole bunch of wiring.
Fairly large user base from 250hp to 1800hp. Take your old engine harness out and plug in Holley harness for TPI. It data logs everything including fuel and oil pressure. It was one of the easiest systems to learn for me. I have tuned using the Ostrich, 950 Commander and LS PCM. They all require a lot of skill in tuning and are easy to go in the wrong direction and hurt a motor esp with power adders. The Holley is not fool proof, BUT, will put a new tuner miles ahead in getting their engine up and running well.
This is aimed more towards the OP then those experienced tuners that have posted in this thread.
At the moment im also looking into ditching the tpi and going to a single plane setup. Think this might be the best option for me cause i really want to run fastest mile and road courses. I wanna give big red camaro a run for his money. LOL Move over and give the younger camaro generation a chance is what i say!!
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