No problem

NO progress the past couple days since I am waiting on some exhaust tubing to make the down pipes. Also wonderin if I will need a new a/f guage with dual sensors.

 

Naw just put in a few bungs and move sensor to see what each bank is doin. Find leanest bank and leave it there

 

That makes sense .

 

u could also do a egt gauge in each bank , its how we used to do it before widebands were common , and they are pretty darn cheap

 

I just ordered my new radiator from Jegs. Come to find out it was on sale for $144.00.
summit wanted $ 194 for the same size.

 

I am going to try using a Moroso oil catch can setup on each side and see how that goes for crank case evac. Ordered two last night for 170.00 shipped.

 

Why not just run a breather ?

I've got a vac pump but I'm not using it for evac.

-- Joe

 

Ran breathers before....need a catch can especially with 14 lbs of boost

 

save ur money and build ur own custom can , they are very easy to build and then u can build it how u want , for were u want to put it and mounting

just build 1 can and feed both valve covers to it , u canbuild them as vented cans with a breather ontop or as closed systems and feed a line to the turbo inlets for increased crankcase vacum

 

If you do this put in an air oil separator. Dont wanna oil wash the compressor

 

I will see how these work and go from there. They already shipped them.

 

 

Than your ring gaps are too wide.

I ran 14-16psi for years on my old 355 and never had a blowby issue.

A catch can will cure oil spraying out of your breather, but the underlying problem should be cured.

-- Joe

 

I don't get a lot of blowby though. I ran a catch can last year and there was barely any oil in it. I just want the crank case to breathe. All my cylinders are at 140 psi on a cold compression test.

 

If I remember correctly I set the top ring gap to .024'' and the second ring to .024'' as per the .006" that sealed power chart that came with the rings described.

 

Well, the ring mfg suggestion is just that. How far down is the ring? Which part # pistons are you using and what did you set for clearance?

-- Joe

 

So long ago I don't remember what the clearances for the piston /bore was. As for the rings I set the gap with them close to 2" in the bore

 

Looking at space running the down pipes might be difficult. Would there be an issue merging the two down pipes (3") to a 3" single section which dumps into the 4" cat back section?

 

That's the problem with mounting turbos forward of the steering linkage.

If this wasn't a street car, i'd just do fender exit. Since "Turbos are considered mufflers, for NHRA purposes".

But, since it's a street car.

What is the outlet size of the turbo? 3"? I think I'd do dual 2.5's or 2.75's into a single 4".

2.5" pipe = 4.91" area
2.75" pipe = 5.94"
3" pipe = 7.07" area
4" pipe = 12.57" area

Your dual 3" pipes going into a 4" pipe doesn't make sense since 4" can't support the same flow as the dual 3". So by using 3" between the turbo and the merge seems pointless to me. (others may differ in opinion).

2.75" would be idea, but 2.5" would work too and give you the clearance you need.

-- Joe

 

Yeah they are 3" outlets on the turbine side. I will have to put the car on jack stands and go from there. Passenger side will be easy but the driver side might be a challenge. I was very exhausted last night so that's probably why I wasn't very creative on how the driver side would run.

 

Do you have enough height in the garage for a lift?

I've had a lift since the 90s.. I couldn't live without one.

-- Joe

 

no unfortunately. I do have plans for a bigger garage in the future though.

 

Received my radiator today. May have to reconfigure the driver side for upper radiator hose clearance.

 

Here is one from the driver side. Give more of an idea as to what I'm dealing with.

 

May be able to get away with it . I'll see tomorrow when I get the new upper radiator hose

 

Cut it off, weld a 90* to it.

-- Joe

 

Yup make a hardline

 

I'll find someone to weld one on for me. I got my catch cans in today and ordered up a new cooling fan setup. Proform 67015. Good for 2800 cfm. Managed to order it through advanced auto parts for 110.00 shipped to my house.

 

Thats cool. I went with the spal dual fan setup on mine and it was quite a few bux.

If you wanna swing by my shop and use my TIG you can. I'm a little uncomfortable welding very thin aluminum, but your welcome to use my machine if you want to do it.

-- Joe

 

Thank you for the offer. I'll remember that . I ended up trimming up the headers back a little bit. I have more room. Just need to get the correct upper hose.

 

Here is another.

 

Looking good! Im more interested to see if that 1" core is gonna keep this thing cool!

Jay

 

Its two 1'' cores. Same as my bigger radiator that I took out . Most highest temp I had on the hottest/humidest day was 220* but that's because I was sitting for awhile. Once moving it dropped a lot.

 

Couple of things. Looking through the build, ur doing a good job but I'll shoot u some advice.

The rad u can easily cut a 45 silicone hose off eBay for like $5 shipped and clear that turbo pipe, then use a connector to run another 45 or look for an OEM hose to fit the application. Your rad is a bit on the small side core wise but should be fine with the dual 1" cores. The dual 1"cores are what everyone uses like be cool in there 1000hp radiators. I actually called be cool and they said the only difference between there 400-600hp rads and the 1000hp is the cooling fan setups. Why go with a 16" core over a 19" core? Seems like you didn't lower the rad to reason for a shorter radiator? I would have run the tallest and widest you could fit.

Now your fan is not going to pull 2800cfm sorry man, that pro form fan is not really rated at 2800cfm and even if it is its at 0 static pressure, once you put something in front of it it's Cfm rating is gona drop drastically. I would invest in a better fan now. Look at OEM fans that fit a 22" core. And u might get a 2 spd brand new OEM replacement for less than $100 all day all over the net. I just put a new mark 8 2 speed on mine for less than $100. sPaL rates there fans at more than 0" static pressure so they pull a lot more air than the cheap pro form, jegs, summit etc brands.

The vband a should be fine as long as you don't have any serious weight on them, def brace the turbos.

Interested to see how to figure out dump pipes, I got turbo headers for my 5.3 swap and returned them bc the piping would be annoying and I run a hydroboost and notched firewall lol.

Exhaust size between dual 3" and single 4" is negledable. Even tho dual 3" has slightly more area it also has a lot more surface friction that slows exhaust velocity. I would say that the single 4" flows as much as the dual 3"s given that their isn't much of a difference in area. I actually just finished my single 4 header back setup.

I would hope your engine temps are much lower than that. I ran the same rad but a 31x19 dual 1" core and had a good set of OEM fans on it and my 521 would sit in summer heat and never get above 190. It's all about fan CFM, radiator cap placement and your system fluid. I also only ran a 7lb cap bc that's how efficient my setup was. How much higher is your rad cap compared to your water neck?

 

Nothing wrong with running 200+. Most oems do

 

Yea but not when your throwing 1bar or 14psi and boost. Keeping engine heat down with boost is a great way to help with detonation. Just saying....

 

All depends lol i run alot of boost on a hot motor. It likes it

 

Thank you.

I went with a little bit smaller radiator to clear up some room in the engine bay and to tuck it in the core support better. .My last one was a 31x19 radiator which worked ok but didn't tuck it in much.

I am still considering joining the down pipes into my existing 4" exhaust. I just have to get under the car and do some configuring.

My last fan setup probably only pulled 2400 cfm but they seemed to do an ok job.

The radiator cap is much higher than the water neck.

 

look into the lincolin mark vi or whatever fan , its supposed to be the best fan u can get


here u go
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mark-8-VIII-...xSbHqj&vxp=mtr

 

heres a cheap one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lincoln-Mark...FWJB6H&vxp=mtr
or see if u can grab one from the junkyard so u can grab the control relays as well iirc it takes a 40 amp relay

 

That's what I run now. Sucks a good bit of air. Make sure u verify its a 2 speed as they make one that isn't. I also got a custom harness specifically for this fan so it operates 2 speeds with a simple hookup. Kit comes with temp senders if you choose and start around $70. U gotta remember that this fan can spike 60amps on startup so the harness comes with big 70 amp relays and it's great quality and made in the USA.

Only issue with the fan is the depth. It's a deep fan

 

the svt focus fan is supposed to have the same rating but not be as deep so thats something else to look into

 

I heard that fan is decent, I don't think it's on par with the mark 5/8 fan but another popular one is the ford contour dual fan setup which pulls a lot of air as well. The problem is his small core size will limit his choices considerably.

 

This!

 

I will be doing some research tonight once I get home . I have a buyer for the proform fan already at work.

 

Just get the spal setup I have. Comes with shroud, doesn't use too many amps. if it cools my 400 it will cool yours.

-- Joe

 

Joe....whats the part number?

 

This is a copy of the sPaL setup that be cool sells for like $400+ dollars. But this one cost $100. http://m.ebay.com/itm/Dual-11-Electric-Radiator-Cooling-Fans-w-Shroud-Extreme-Cooling-Twin-2800-CFM-/181649138963?nav=SEARCH
Problem is its 23.5" wide but it's 16" tall which is perfect for you. If you can trim 3/4" off the sides you'd be good.

Other fans to look at are cars with single large fans, your small 22" core will usually eliminate all dual fans due to the small core. Mustang V6 fan is prob close.

 

I found one similar that Joe showed me. 23x16 dual fan setup and 2800 cfm. Bought that one today. Selling the proform one this Friday to a coworker who wanted it (the proform) anyways.

 

was it the one I posted? I hope you didn't pay more than $101 lol. Ive seen it as low as $92-98 and free shipping and almost pulled the trigger. But decided I wanted a a 2 speed single fan.