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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 07:25 PM
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1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

Found a rare one this last week.

1989 1LE R7U Players Camaro- Motomaster #1 car, one of two shipped to Trudeau Motors, one for Richard Spenard and the other for David Empringham.

The car has just 33,000 km on the odometer but definitely not your garage queen beauty, it clearly shows the wear and tear of winning 5 races in 1989.

Ill post more pictures as I start to clean it up and put the race parts back in it but think I will drive it the way it is for the summer.

Some interesting items upon my first quick inspection.... fiberglass hood, Motomaster decal on intake( didn't mean much until i found out who's car it was), red paint around rear window frame, carpets cut out for roll bar and holes sealed.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 08:32 PM
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Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

Where the headlight pockets over sprayed for the sponsor appearance look or was the car repainted? That's a cool find indeed. I know Richard Spenard was heavy competition in the series.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 08:55 PM
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The car has been repainted. Surprised that the red was painted across the back half and not a decal. I guess in 1989 they didn't have that ability or cost was cheaper to paint.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 09:06 PM
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Hmm, if that fiberglass hood was used in competition they were cheaters, right?
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 12:24 AM
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Is this it?

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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 05:33 AM
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I think I see a few dabs of yellow paint on some of the engine bolts.. Very cool!
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 06:30 AM
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Great find Munyguy! Did the previous owner know what the car is?
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Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

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Hmm, if that fiberglass hood was used in competition they were cheaters, right?
Believe the early Z28 hood was legal, just like the aluminum TA hood from 82.
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 07:49 AM
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Is this it?

Yes that is the car!!
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 02:28 PM
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What a cool car!
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Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

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Believe the early Z28 hood was legal, just like the aluminum TA hood from 82.
So there was an update/backdate provision on body parts. People definitely updated, but I wasn't sure if you could backdate all the way to before the series started.
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Old Jul 2, 2016 | 10:23 AM
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Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

Who has a Players Challenge rule book they can scan and put online? Then can all know for sure.
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Yes that is the car!!
Found these photos on some image hosting site on google image search:





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Old Jul 2, 2016 | 08:35 PM
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Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

Top one has the '82 hood IN ACTION! Wheels are backdated too but they probably didn't care about wheels anyway. A good way to get busted would be to have illegal parts visible in your press materials.
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I have copies of the rule books. The only thing I can find is about the wheels saying you can use the old ones. The single grove iroc wheels are considerably heavier that the double grove ones. Nothing about the hood.

I have a copy of what the scrutineers looked for. In the one race doc I am reading, all 17 finishers where checked for ride height, corner weight and total weight. Lots of info about ensuring front and rear rims where in the correct location. sway bar diameters, spring diameter, ride height, and tires.

The top 5 qualifiers had more tests. Timing, Prom ID, Air filter, air box, rear camber, spring bushings, brake pads, rear trailing arm positions, roll cages checked for weight jacking, and so forth.

Nothing about "parts". As long as the weights were within the "limits" all was good. So with this car ... saving a few pounds off the front end was within the guidlines and probably made for a better handling car. Reading between the rules.

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Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

It's also worth noting that the car may have been raced AFTER the players challenge series is other firehawk or similar series where the rules are different.

Now the detective work starts to identify what was original and what was changed. Finding the original race modifications will be exciting.

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Is the VIN on the motor?
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Old Jul 3, 2016 | 10:15 PM
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Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

Was looking through Kijiji today and found a documented Player's race car for sale for $20,000 Canadian which would be about $15,500 US Dollars:


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/...aro/1174216017
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Can't believe they raced on those worthless, hard as rocks, non gripping, junk gatorbacks!
Must have been very scary for them! Surprised they didn't fly off the track and right out of the atmosphere !
(sarcasm)
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Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

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Was looking through Kijiji today and found a documented Player's race car for sale for $20,000 Canadian which would be about $15,500 US Dollars:


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/...aro/1174216017
There's no picture of the actual car in that ad, just other people's cars including TGO members cars.
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Just a little update as the roll bar is now installed.
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Very cool! I like the red against the black. Car art!

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That's ****!

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Passenger side installed
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Will you have to notch the dash pad for it to fit now or does the pad clear the tubes? How do you get the pad in there now?
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Will you have to notch the dash pad for it to fit now or does the pad clear the tubes? How do you get the pad in there now?
Yes dash pad will need to be notched, and very carefully !!!
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I can smell the vintageness from here!
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Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

Originally Posted by Munyguy
Found a rare one this last week.

1989 1LE R7U Players Camaro- Motomaster #1 car, one of two shipped to Trudeau Motors, one for Richard Spenard and the other for David Empringham.

The car has just 33,000 km on the odometer but definitely not your garage queen beauty, it clearly shows the wear and tear of winning 5 races in 1989.

Ill post more pictures as I start to clean it up and put the race parts back in it but think I will drive it the way it is for the summer.

Some interesting items upon my first quick inspection.... fiberglass hood, Motomaster decal on intake( didn't mean much until i found out who's car it was), red paint around rear window frame, carpets cut out for roll bar and holes sealed.
Wow. This is awesome that the car survived all these years. Where and how did you find it? Do you know the owner history after the series ended?

Excellent find. How is your other project ( the 1986 players t/a)?
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Finding it was just luck, happened across an ad that sounded like it could be a players car so called the seller and asked if the sticker in glove box was still intact and if it listed R7U and 1LE. After weeks of follow up and repeated calls he finally confirmed that they were both there. It was over a 3 hr drive one way just to see the car and he was asking a high price. I did the drive to have a look and when I got there the car needed attention, headliner, exhaust and a 10 bolt rear drum axle was installed. The good was original engine and transmission and super low mileage. We couldn't agree on price that day so took picture of VIN sticker and left without the car.
Six to seven months pass and I was bored so I send Mark the Vin to see if he can find out anything special about the car, he confirmed it was a players car etc but no way to know who drove it. So I started digging just out of curiosity and long and short found out it was delivered to Trudeau Motors in Bellevile and owned by Raymond David's business. Once I knew that this was the Motomaster car I called to see if it was still for sale and luckily for me it was. So another 6 hrs road trip and home it came.
The 86 is in storage while I get this one sorted, then I have to build the 1987 and then I will start final detail on the 1986. I have decided to leave the 86 in the "barn find" condition for now and show it as is.
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Teaser.....I'm getting close!!!
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looks good!
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Teaser.....I'm getting close!!!
....and we are getting excited!
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 12:07 PM
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Decals are getting close to being completed so thought I would post the before photos. Some slight changes from when I first got it.
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Love these cars.
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Well it's been an exciting day. Just a few small items remaining but the transformation back to the way it was raced is compete.
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OH THAT'S SO COOL!!!

Much better "as-raced" with the decals & colors applied!
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Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

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Can't believe they raced on those worthless, hard as rocks, non gripping, junk gatorbacks!
Must have been very scary for them! Surprised they didn't fly off the track and right out of the atmosphere !
(sarcasm)
Aside from an S Compound Gatorback, the Gen I BF Goodrich Comp TA R1 Tires were the only other viable options. Those were dark ages of tires.
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Car looks amazing!!
Nice job!
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Very impressive, love it.
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Excellent restore! Thanks for saving this cool piece of Thirdgen history!
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Car: 1988 A4U (#99 SONY/Protec)
Engine: 5.0 V8 TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.45
Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

Wicked find, and awesome job on the restore. Looks gorgeous, gotta get going on mine this motivated me!
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Old Mar 10, 2017 | 09:23 AM
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Car: 1986 GM / Players Trans Am
Engine: 305 HO
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Axle/Gears: 3.70 Borg Warner
Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

Well car is 98% complete, on display at the 2017 Toronto Motorama car show. Sort of proud that I found this car and brought it back to its glory!
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Old Mar 10, 2017 | 09:36 AM
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Car: 1988 A4U (#99 SONY/Protec)
Engine: 5.0 V8 TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.45
Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

Congrats munyguy, Very nice work!
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Old Mar 10, 2017 | 09:41 AM
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

I really like that !!!
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Old Mar 10, 2017 | 03:57 PM
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Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: L03
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Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

A lot to be proud of. Looks great. History preserved/saved.
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Old Mar 10, 2017 | 06:50 PM
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Car: 1987 IROC Original Owner
Engine: LB9
Transmission: M39 MM5
Axle/Gears: G80 G92 J65
Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

Originally Posted by Munyguy
Sort of proud that I found this car and brought it back to its glory!
We are too!
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Old Mar 11, 2017 | 12:05 AM
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Car: 91 Firbird Formula
Engine: 5.0 TBI
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Re: 1989 Players Challenge Camaro- Motomaster #1 Car

I've been a believer that cool and unusual things have a way of finding the place they need to be. Glad it found you. Cool car!
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