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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 04:25 PM
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Need Help Identifying OEM Recaro Seat Fabric

So before I go, and spend a whole bunch of coin on some fabric, I wanted to know if anyone had any type of solid proof that this is the correct color/style of fabric. I need to find the correct shade of charcoal they used on the center of the Recaro seats in 85-86. I have a NOS set of seats that are not faded in anyway, and using some samples that I got from hawks, I was able to narrow it down to Chino Valor Dark charcoal. I am going to get the seats (F/R) recovered in black, and have the charcoal in the center. I have NOS black cloth already, now I just need the Charcoal. The only paperwork I can find on the seats is from phs but they dont give you much to work with.
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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 07:23 PM
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Re: Need Help Identifying OEM Recaro Seat Fabric

The real thing is called Pallex. Trouble is no one is reproducing Pallex. So 'they' offer sorta look-alike fabrics.
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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 08:48 PM
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I know for sure the centers on the seats were Graphite Pallax material.When I purchased my new Upholstery from Classic, I had to order a yard or two of the Graphite Pallax material from PUI (makers of the seat covers) to finish the door panels.At the time, PUI did not sell to the public, but I convinced them to sell me what I needed.You might be able to get it from them or they can give you a number of one of their suppliers, Their material is the Pallax that your looking for.
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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 08:56 PM
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http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...008560129.html
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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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Im sure hawks gets their kits from the same place. They told me that they can sell just material.
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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 09:42 PM
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I am also very interested in this. From my research there is no reproduction Pallex cloth in the charcoal color that is close to original. There is a tan reproduction for the Knight rider crowd that is very close. I have found a few products specifically geared toward Recaro seats. Headrest netting, under seat strap kit, repro foam and seat belt guides.
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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 09:52 PM
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Make sure it's from PUI,I know my upholstery is Pallax,It is exactly what I replaced from my TA.
kimmee,PUI calls it Graphite not Charcoal.
I might have some left over,I would be willing to send you a sample piece.

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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 10:01 PM
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Ok mantaguy, you have my attention, send me a PM. Thanks.
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The weirdest part about the recaros is that its a really dark charcoal. I have black, and carmine oem seats which I compared the color too a while back. The black is really light and the carmine is to light faded maybe?
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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 10:23 PM
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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 11:34 PM
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Re: Need Help Identifying OEM Recaro Seat Fabric

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The weirdest part about the recaros is that its a really dark charcoal. I have black, and carmine oem seats which I compared the color too a while back. The black is really light and the carmine is to light faded maybe?
Wow they are dark.Are they for 85-86?Maybe the Recaro's are supposed to be that dark.I did notice on Classics web that they also have the Pallox cloth upholstery in Black & Graphite.Maybe you could get the Black from PUI.
That dealer work sheet above that you posted says,NOTE, All Pallax cloth trims include Graphite insert color on seats and doors.

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I have the black already. I got it from sms fabrics but I really hate their service. Took them forever to ship my fabric.
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They are 85-86
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This is all I can find on those so far in the parts book.
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Re: Need Help Identifying OEM Recaro Seat Fabric

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The weirdest part about the recaros is that its a really dark charcoal. I have black, and carmine oem seats which I compared the color too a while back. The black is really light and the carmine is to light faded maybe?
There are four grays in Pallex. The dark gray on your Recaros is "C-3160 Graphite" on the Pallex sample chart in my stash.

"Granite" is a bit lighter, "Medium Dark Grey" is lighter still, and "Sand Grey" is the lightest, blandest gray.
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Well I suppose that the dark Charcoal they offer is the closest im gonna get. I doupt that id be able to get that anywhere.
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Old Feb 20, 2017 | 03:21 PM
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Re: Need Help Identifying OEM Recaro Seat Fabric

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The weirdest part about the recaros is that its a really dark charcoal. I have black, and carmine oem seats which I compared the color too a while back. The black is really light and the carmine is to light faded maybe?
I dont know if the 85-86 material is the same shade as the 82, but here is my headrest underneath the metal bracket. Its also a very dark charcoal, almost looks black. This has never been exposed to any light, until a few weeks ago. These are from a 82 Recaro TA.
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Old Feb 20, 2017 | 05:42 PM
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I believe that the material used in the 82 seats was a bit different from the later years.
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Re: Need Help Identifying OEM Recaro Seat Fabric

Originally Posted by t/aws61985
I believe that the material used in the 82 seats was a bit different from the later years.
It was a 1 year only fabric called Parella cloth.
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Old Feb 23, 2017 | 07:47 PM
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Re: Need Help Identifying OEM Recaro Seat Fabric

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It was a 1 year only fabric called Parella cloth.
Yes, next to impossible to find.
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