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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 01:55 PM
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WTB 91/92 Firehawk or TTA Hardtop

Hi Everyone,

Before I buy a new 2016 Challenger, I figured that i'd look to see if I could locate a '91 / '92 Firehawk or hardtop TTA (leather or cloth) to complete my collection.

Yep, before anyone chimes in, i'm well aware that they only made 25 firehawks and 39 hardtop TTAs

If you know of one that is available, please let me know.

Thanks!
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Someone was selling a hardtop recently. Let me look and see if I can find it in my records.
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Someone was selling a hardtop recently. Let me look and see if I can find it in my records.
Thanks I appreciate it!
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That's quite a range, money wise!
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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 07:17 PM
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Re: WTB 91/92 Firehawk or TTA Hardtop

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That's quite a range, money wise!
Yeah I know... Not completely sure what I want to do but I'd like either one or a new challenger to complete the fleet and then I'm done for a long time lol... I had a friend bid on a TTA hardtop with cloth a while back at an auction and i missed out, I lost to one bidder. If I had been there in person I may have gone an extra bid or two more, not sure if I would have gotten it... Prefer a firehawk but they seldom come up for sale... But I did get my Callaway which is even rarer and 1le z03 so I'm keeping my hopes up 😀
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Re: WTB 91/92 Firehawk or TTA Hardtop

Unfortunately the Cloth/Hardtop TTA I was thinking about already sold. Best of luck in your search, if I hear of another one I'll let you know.
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Thank you so much, I really appreciate you checking for me!!
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For inspiration...

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What number was that again?
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We couldn't figure it out - it sold out of Long Island NY a few years ago.
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That's right, couldn't remember that story
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Re: WTB 91/92 Firehawk or TTA Hardtop

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For inspiration...

Gorgeous car!! I want one!

My favorite of the bunch is owned by a forum member, car #26. The color on that car I think is the best ever offered on a thirdgen and seldom seen. Incredible car!

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Isn't that one of the late production cars?

I want #3!
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Re: WTB 91/92 Firehawk or TTA Hardtop

if you find the firehawk and need the wheels i have an original set on our 91 z28 vert that i mght let go for the right price
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No such thing as a '91 Firehawk. Nothing wrong with building a fake / clone / copy, as long as you don't try to sell it as legit. Cheaper, and can have it your way.
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 07:55 AM
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Re: WTB 91/92 Firehawk or TTA Hardtop

The 1st 8 Firehawks are 91s ;-). they are just called 92s.

http://www.firehawkowners.com/year/1991.html

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More inspiration....

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Can't wait to reveal #28 :-)
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Re: WTB 91/92 Firehawk or TTA Hardtop

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Can't wait to reveal #28 :-)
I'm really excited to see your car!! Especially in yellow, going to look awesome! Any updates?
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More inspiration....

Comp package too, awesome!!! Do you remember how much was the owner asking for that car?
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I'm really excited to see your car!! Especially in yellow, going to look awesome! Any updates?
I'm hoping to start a new thread in a few more months
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Comp package too, awesome!!! Do you remember how much was the owner asking for that car?
He never gave me a price, asked me to bid on it, which I wouldn't do.
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I'm hoping to start a new thread in a few more months
I'm looking forward to it! No joke I was going to message you a while back to see how it was going. Can't wait to see it!
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He never gave me a price, asked me to bid on it, which I wouldn't do.
Gotcha... yeah I would have had the same response.
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Re: WTB 91/92 Firehawk or TTA Hardtop

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The 1st 8 Firehawks are 91s ;-). they are just called 92s.

http://www.firehawkowners.com/year/1991.html
So they started with late-'91 chassis? Doesn't matter if they were sold as '92s, but the '91s would have the advantage of not being glued together as the '92s were. '82-'91 did fine with spot welds only, no glue, so I'd want a '91 chassis. I passed on a cherry '92 B2L hardtop with original rear discs, for being the glue-year. Why risk it?
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May have been #9 from Nesconset, NY.
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So they started with late-'91 chassis? Doesn't matter if they were sold as '92s, but the '91s would have the advantage of not being glued together as the '92s were. '82-'91 did fine with spot welds only, no glue, so I'd want a '91 chassis. I passed on a cherry '92 B2L hardtop with original rear discs, for being the glue-year. Why risk it?
The panel bond was in addition to the spot weld process and it started some time in 91, IIRC. It made the F-car stiffer than a old dude that took Viagra.
It must have worked very well in the F-car trials because it was used on 4thgens and is being used everywhere in the industry these days. Most all truck beds are held on with 1 or 2 spot welds and the rest is panel bond. Its is as strong as a weld, you'll tear the steel b4 the joint gives. I didn't believe it until I saw it but is very strong.

Here is a picture of the dreaded glue and spot welds on the frame rail of one of my 92s.
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So they started with late-'91 chassis? Doesn't matter if they were sold as '92s, but the '91s would have the advantage of not being glued together as the '92s were. '82-'91 did fine with spot welds only, no glue, so I'd want a '91 chassis. I passed on a cherry '92 B2L hardtop with original rear discs, for being the glue-year. Why risk it?
As an engineer I can say that the bonding material used in those cars had a higher tensile strength than the spot welding. I have a 91 and 92, both 1le cars with the same mileage (within 100 miles of each other) and the 92 is noticeably stiffer and makes absolutely no squeaks or rattles, it's a better car. I have not heard of anyone having an issue related to the bonding.
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How about a 91 Trans Am 1 LE? All original, needs little more than love.
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One more bump. I have a line on a few cars i'm looking at. Just curious if anyone knows of anything else before I pull the trigger on one of these or something new
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R r Dave, saw your post does your car have pro r7u? Pm me with info if it does. Thanks
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Re: WTB 91/92 Firehawk or TTA Hardtop

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Comp package too, awesome!!! Do you remember how much was the owner asking for that car?
I would love to own that car.
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following
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More inspiration - #12 The Firestone Give-Away car!

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Re: WTB 91/92 Firehawk or TTA Hardtop

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No such thing as a '91 Firehawk. Nothing wrong with building a fake / clone / copy, as long as you don't try to sell it as legit. Cheaper, and can have it your way.
yup the first few Firehawks were 91’s.
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