1LE w factory t tops - yep
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Car: 89 GTA ASC Conv., Prev: 89 GTA 6.3L
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1LE w factory t tops - yep
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Looks a bit familiar... Almost exactly like one a forum member owns. Pretty sure he and the seller even live in the same town. What are the odds?
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Re: 1LE w factory t tops - yep
Though they are, other than bolt pattern, I am not sure I would refer to the rotors as Caprice rotors. Even though I may have done so here. Specific gearing should be close ratio gearing. Nice car.
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Car: 89 GTA ASC Conv., Prev: 89 GTA 6.3L
Engine: 5.7L L98 TPI
Transmission: 700r4 Automatic
Axle/Gears: 3.27:1 w/ JG1 Options:B2L, N10, U1A
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Yeah, I always thought of 1LE cars as fog light delete, hard top and radio delete on a quick inspection.. didn’t think T-Tops were possible.. is there a Vert 1LE? That would be crazy talk!
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Re: 1LE w factory t tops - yep
No verts, but a total of 29 T-Top 1LE's got built by Pontiac between 1991 & 1992 (27 in 91 and 2 in 92).
Breakdown was 8 Formulas and 19 TA's in 91 and one each in 92. So far I think a total of 4 of the cars have shown up, 3 91 Formulas and 1 91 TA.
Pontiac seemed to have been a little more liberal than Chevy in the 1LE department. Car is in great condition, fully restored and completely numbers matching with an excellent 3 owner history. Will be going to BJ in CT this year.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...es-number.html
Breakdown was 8 Formulas and 19 TA's in 91 and one each in 92. So far I think a total of 4 of the cars have shown up, 3 91 Formulas and 1 91 TA.
Pontiac seemed to have been a little more liberal than Chevy in the 1LE department. Car is in great condition, fully restored and completely numbers matching with an excellent 3 owner history. Will be going to BJ in CT this year.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...es-number.html
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Re: 1LE w factory t tops - yep
but how t-tops and 1LE?
I would't call 'Cars and Concepts' T-Tops "factory" equipment............
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Re: 1LE w factory t tops - yep
I have a 89 formula 350 ASC vert, I put 1LE brakes on it, does that count? lol
John in RI, I wouldn't call C&C ttops factory either but the red formula has factory TTOPs.
John in RI, I wouldn't call C&C ttops factory either but the red formula has factory TTOPs.
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Man, Pontiac rules.. 5.7 in verts.. T-Top 1LE
They do build excitement
They do build excitement
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Re: 1LE w factory t tops - yep
The second sentence of the add......
P.S. Didn't see the vid,.... and can now clearly see the 'CC1' Code on the RPO tag.
Pontiac Firebird Formula. Yes, it's true! Pontiac built a few 1LE showroom stock race cars with the CC1 t-top option! Pontiac 1LE production is very low with only 172 units total being produced. In 1991 46 1LE Formulas were built and 62 Trans Am's, of the Formulas 8 of them were built for the very first time with T-tops - this is one of those cars! NONE of the camaro 1LE cars produced were ever built with T-TOPS!
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Re: 1LE w factory t tops - yep
The second sentence of the add......
P.S. Didn't see the vid,.... and can now clearly see the 'CC1' Code on the RPO tag.

Pontiac Firebird Formula. Yes, it's true! Pontiac built a few 1LE showroom stock race cars with the CC1 t-top option! Pontiac 1LE production is very low with only 172 units total being produced. In 1991 46 1LE Formulas were built and 62 Trans Am's, of the Formulas 8 of them were built for the very first time with T-tops - this is one of those cars! NONE of the camaro 1LE cars produced were ever built with T-TOPS!

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Re: 1LE w factory t tops - yep
If you click the link to cars-on-line.com at the top of the page it leads you to an add for the car. The first sentence of the add says.
The second sentence of the add says The third sentence of the add says The fourth sentence of the add says
Reading that add is why I thought this car had C&C T-Tops.
P.S. Again,..... I then saw the Vid and realized I read "CC1" and not "C&C".
"Pontiac Firebird Formula".
"Pontiac built a few 1LE showroom stock race cars with the CC1 t-top option!"
" Pontiac 1LE production is very low with only 172 units total being produced."
" In 1991 46 1LE Formulas were built and 62 Trans Am's, of the Formulas 8 of them were built for the very first time with T-tops - this is one of those cars! "
Reading that add is why I thought this car had C&C T-Tops.
P.S. Again,..... I then saw the Vid and realized I read "CC1" and not "C&C".
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