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Please post here to confirm or deny, or if you need to be added to the list.

 

Glad im easy to forget =/.

 

:lala: I added ya Ijust figured it'd be easiest to start another thread to get the official headcount.

 

thanks for starting this one, didn't think about it when I updated the other 2 last night.

 

Also, my brother and at least 1 friend, possibly 2 will be coming, so thats probably 4 more for food, none of them with thirdgen's however. We'll put them at the end of the parking lot

 

I'll be there.

Not sure if Mrs. ZAP will or not--she may have to work that day--but she said she would send something for the crew to munch out on if she can't make it.

 

Please add me and the Mrs to the list.

 

I will be there ONLY if I can get my issues sorted out. ANyone with brilliant mechanical knowledge, feel free to offer suggestions.
I have an idle gremlin I can't hunt down, after balance tests, fuel psi tests, thermographs, new distributor, new TPS, IAC, O2S, and a complete ignition upgrade (plugs, wires,cap, rotor). I am unable to determine why my car is missing(?), and stubling at idle. I've posted on tech forum, people gave obvious advice....grrrr. I'm down to either a computer issue (PROM), or somthing mechanical (HOW, I don't know, the prob is intermittant). ANyone who was at the last gathering could see that the car idled fine, I left it running between passes . ANy advice or help is appreciated

 

tried using the stock chip to see if it was prom?

I would give mike a PM/email and see if he wants to look at it.

 

EGR? I had a idle problem big time, everytime I pushed int eh clutch the rpm would jump to 3K, its the main reason I stopped messing with it and threw in the v8.

 

did you check the vacuum, or run a scanner on it?

 

ADD ME TO DA LIST .......GOT MY CAR NOW TO STOP OVERHEATING i could've saved so much time by checkin fan relay instead of thermostat and breakin a bolt ......but i learned alot from this .....:lala: now i need to learn why my wheels wobble over 45 mph.....idler arm should be replaced but i stripped da bolt ...oh well i'll be slow but count me in on da gathering

 

I'm there.

 

Where is the meet at?

 

Read very first post of thread below--it has links to info for the meet, maps of location of meet, and how to get to HRP from there.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=260720

 

I should be able to make it unless some emergency arrises at work. I moved and am getting settled in. I will try and bring my son too with his convertible 90 bird (only a six, no racing). I've hardly been driving my car with being busy and all. I took it out Saturday night and jumped on it a little and had no traction, wells spinning. Either the cold damp weather is firing up the engine or tires were wet or something. I havent ran it at the strip this year since the cool weather. Should be good for a couple of tenths, maybe get down close to 13.0. Watch out!

 

I want a rematch Larry, my clutch actually works now (crosses fingers, knocks on wood)

 

My car is kind of a pig in the 1\8th, but I'd like to run it in the 1\4 just to confirm that fact.

 

Well, I'm not sure I'm gonna have time to install the modified plunger that will make my 700r4 shift 3/4 at WOT., but I want to make one pass to see if I run out of gear before the finish line.

 

hmm, I always shifted my 700r4 at WOT into third. I don't remember any problems, of course until it starte going out and then went out altogether and wouldn't stay in 3rd gear at any rpms. You should be shifting into third right about the 1/8 mile mark, which means most of the second half of the 1/4 mile race is just holding your foot on down and steering the car on the track. I ran the 1/8 a lot with the 700 r4 and I found there wasn't really any difference if I shifted right before the finish line or right after it, but you certainly are going to run out of 2nd gear way before the 1/4 finish line. Maybe I misunderstood you.

Id say get a TH350 like me and get neck snapping shifts at any rpm, but then you have the disadvantage of no overdrive. Its not that fun going to HRP on the freeway a 3000 rpm and 60 mph for an hour and a half.

 

Currently I am shifting way before the finish line on an 1/8mile--gets up to about 4200/4300 rpm. I'm pretty sure it would come up to the shift point (5700/5800) before I got to the finish line on an 1/4mile. 700r4's are designed to not shift into 4th gear (overdrive) at wide open throtle--U haave to let off the gas slightly AND after it does shift to 4th, if U go back to WOT, it will downshift back down to third, unless modified with the part I have to install. I have done this a couple times before I found out this is the way it is, and when it did, it over reved the engine. Therefore I did a little research on the thirdgen tranny board and discovered there is an easy fix, to make it shift to 4th at WOT and to keep it from downshifting back to 3rd.

Whether I am going to have the chance to git-r-done before the Nov. 26th meet is up in the air--definate maybe. i have a couple other issues I need to tend to before i go 1/4 miling, as well as being coveed up at work at the moment.

Craig

 

OH. Yes I did misunderstand, or actually misread. I thought you were talking about the 2/3 shift. Yes, of course what you say is true about the 3/4 shift. I don't think you want to shift into overdrive in any kind of drag race, even the 1/4 mile. Come to think of it, the only time I went to HRP and ran the 1/4 mile I had the TH350 in there, but I think 3rd gear in the TH350 is pretty close to 3rd in the 700r4. I know the 1st is lower in the 700r4 though. They way I understand it you should be shifting at about 5000 to 5500 rpm on all shifts, so I don't think you should shift from 2/3 way before the 1/8 mile. Also you should be at your max shift point when you cross the 1/4 mile finish line, or close to it, so the motor is in its power range. What gears do you have? I have 3.23 and I still wasn't at 5000 rpms at finish in the 1/4, it was like 4500 or so. With a 700 r4 you could put lower gears so that you don't need to shift into4th in 1/4 mile, and still have overdrive for the freeway. I am thinking about 3.73 or maybe 3.4something, which would optimize me for the 1/4 mile, but make my freeway problem worse. Here is the data from my only 1/4 mile outing

60' 1/8 1/8 mph 1/4 1/4mph
1.92 5.555 8.579 81.53 11.211 13.433 99.56
1.965 5.606 8.627 81.55 11.25 13.467 99.67
1.944 5.599 8.632 81.15 11.26 13.489 101.13
ave1.943 5.586 8.61 81.41 11.242 13.463 100.12

This was in the warm weather, Im hoping for a couple of tenths lower this time.

 

I have 3.73 rear end gears. I have to shift when it redlines!

I can feel it nose over at about 6000+ so I usually shift 1/2 around 6000--2/3 around 5700/5800.

I don't know wha it would go through the traps on a1/4 mile, that's why I said i have to make at least on pass to see if I am running out of gear (redlining). If it is, I have to shift! when the tranny has been modified, overdrive is just another/4th gear to go to. If it's redlining way before I get to the first speed trap on the big end, if I don't shift it will over rev the engine and possibly damage it, and I'm sure not gonna do that!

We'll see what happens!

 

I wonder if the administrator could put these last few messages in the Drag Racing section and see what they guys over there say. Obviously you have to shift if the car is redlining, but if you do have to shift, I think that maybe the gears are to high. maybe a 3.23 would be better. Well maybe it doesn't matter too like you say if it is a race built 700r4 maybe the 4th gear is not just a freeway overdrive anymore.

 

I know plenty of guys have run 700R4's and 3.73's in the 1/4, I think you'll be alright, if not perfect. You'll definitely be turning high rpm's, but I would think you'll be right in the peak of your power, right where you want to be.

*Edit* Just for grins, I tried out a few different MPH in the RPM calculator, with 3.73's, in 3rd gear, at 105 mph you should be turning just over 5000 rpm (calculator says 5061), so I don't think you'll have much to worry about. Only one way to find out though. I wasn't sure what you ran in the 1/8th so I just picked a reasonable mph for a modified car.

 

Cool-it may be perfect. I have seen in many posts in the past that for a 700r4 that 3.73 gears are what u want. This may be why--as most are not modified so they will shift 3/4 at WFO.

Texas LT1--see specs and times below in sig.

 

8.7 huh....

 

Yeah--8.708--that's the time I ran against Mikeee when I span... (well U know) at the summer gathering with Larry Dunlap's borrowed Nittos--got it on videotape and still got the timeslip.

Why?

 

I was just reminded, that at HRP, if U run faster than 14.0 ET U MUST have a helmet! I think, if U go through tech and are not sure what U run, U get one run and then they will wipe your number.

Larry Dunlap went out there a few months ago and found this out. Maybe Larry or others who have run at HRP that are more familar with this rule can shed more light on this.

I have a helmet and will bring it and will be glad to loan it out (as long as U are not using axle bearing grease on your hair).

If this is the way it is, then anybody that has a helmet needs to bring it!

Craig

 

See my post on the other related thread

 

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please move this discussion to the helmet thread I made