james_85Z28

To bad you NEVER beat the Blue Bunny on the track once we got serious. Even after two years you still haven't broken our published ET. Here is the new challenger and soon to be champion of the gear-slapping N/A 3rd gens.......

Grey Goose

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Nice paint.

james_85Z28

Where?

cali92RS

madmax sux.
Those are flames

8T8IROC

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VincentZ28

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The nightmare is the thought of thinking about me We will just have to see. I will still be #1 when the money is put up but just for fun, a heads up race anytime. By the way, who's going to be the driver? I will still have the bragging rights. Remember I'm the only one to beat the #1 man at the track

cali92RS

This is the 3-1-izzle...
We pilot our own craft in the Harbor Area

injdinjn

Strange location for a sway bar.

1fsstgta

looks like a burnt hare to me

1989GTATransAm

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Hmmmmmmm. That car and engine looks very familiar. This photo could not be more than 5 hours old. Hehehehehe.

cali92RS

Damn James...
I sent it to him in confidence. Well, I guess the cats out of the bag, so to speak.
Everything gets blown out of proportion. Its just a mild-cammed 350 w/ a super ram.
Lightly ported heads and intake.
I just needed a car to get to work in.

And to Chris, it shall be painted...

VincentZ28

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that's what it is Between Ken, Mike and James that's what they sell is

james_85Z28

Ha....I now have a good daily driver so any 3rd gen I get wouldn't have to be as streetable as the Bunny was. I could build it with more duty and purpose. I could do a lot more than I did. My last feeble attempt was still better than most. Yoy don't want to tempt me. You can't tease this dog and not expect to get bit.

cali92RS

I am shocked and appalled to be grouped with those two hoodlums...

1989GTATransAm

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Looks like the car could use some new windshield wipers. You can see the rubber comming off the wiper blades in the picture. Maybe all the money is going into the motor.

VincentZ28

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Careful son, your just a puppy making up a bunch of noise. Get another 3gen and get back to some real smack talking. You can't talk $h!t if you don't have a current ride so go back into the dog house and sit.

james_85Z28

That's right I don't have a "ride". I don't need another one to prove anything. You still can't beat the Bunny's best time. And you won't. Ever.

VincentZ28

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Wanna put some money on it?

cali92RS

Not to get between you guys....
But its a LONG way to xx.xx

james_85Z28

You set a date and time that you will break the Bunny's fastest time and I'll put money on it. Of course no blowers, N2O, power adders, or any other crap, just a N/A hp using a SBC 350 CID with a manual tranny and in street legal trim.....Oops...you already lost unless you can blow the number with your current cam.

I don't want you calling me up in ten years to claim the money we waged. You give me a time and place before september and then we can talk. I'll bring the Bunny's best timeslip, see you cry, and then take your money.

You have no idea what the bunny was running when I finally got the ECM thing nailed down....




EDIT: Thanks Ken....just wanted to keep them guessing!!!!

Dyno Don

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Uh...not!
That's a rubber smog hose

8T8IROC

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Kevin91Z

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James, when did you make the record setting run? (both the published and unpublished one). Considering its damn hot right now in Fontana, it'll be difficult for him or anyone else to get any good times out of our cars. And corrected ET's dont count.

I'll wait until after Sept.

Dyno Don

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Besides that .....it's old hat, paper slips and all that don't mean squat... in his own words...so what have you done lately is what I remember him saying.....so until he has another ride, I'm afraid it's like Vince said

RWB____s

What I'd like to see is a runoff drag races between all you guys and gals at track for best time and top dog status. The kicker is blowing the numbers for smog right after "each" run without retuning to pass emissions. That will tell who can get close to, or beat their current best times and also proove they are smog legal at the tail pipe doing it.
Dream on thats something that just can't be done at the track.

Kevin91Z

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The only difference between my street trim and my race trim is 6 more degrees timing at WOT in the chip, and 100 octane gasoline. I would pass smog easily either way.

RWB____s

The only way to really find out is to run the cars on a set of rollers
hooked up to a smog machine right after the run. I'm not saying any of you can't its just interesting as to the different combinations being run that can. Of course if there was a engine tear down by smog Refs alot of you would not pass because of the "questionable" parts and cu in displacements inside the engines.
This would make a good magazine article. It would sure supprise
alot of officials on how good and clean cars can run with parts that are not approved to run in the state of CA.

1989GTATransAm

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Outside the 100 octane gasoline and the Mickey Thompson ET street radials my car is the same as it would be if it was at the smog station. No cheating here.

KiLLJ0Y

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sooooo this car is "supposed to" beat vincents? with whom driving?

that looks like Ken's engine, is that right? So is James going to Drive or is Ken?

i sense a dual

Grey Goose

cali92RS

Eeeeee....
I did not recieve that memo

james_85Z28

I dabbled with high octane gas but 90% of the time my track mods consisted of ET streets only. I ran low enough timing that I didn't really need high octane gas.

I wish vincent would have showed up at the track when I let him know I'd be there but he never once showed. Not once. One time he even brought his moms Camaro. He said his car had a bad IAC valve and so it was broken. But he also said he had bought a replacement already. That's a 10-minute R&R right there in the pits. It shows what kind of competitor vincent was.

True Don, the BB can't do any heads up racing but if that is all that matters then why do we keeps records of peoples time. I said that because after Kevin ran those numbers he never ran them again. His car only ran those number one time and he was never able to repeat those numbers again. Everybody else who has run 12s has done it multiple times and the results were repeatable.

Vincent will NOT be able to beat the BB's best time. When/if I do field another car it will be in another league and you guys will cry foul again, just like when I upgraded to a SR and AFR heads. But then again this comes from the same people who wanted me to race Jerry's heavily modifed race car vs. my heads and cam street car

Dyno Don

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James, it's alright if you want to play secret games, the rest of us report what we run. If the BB runs what you seem to imply, why should you care what Jerry has, you probably would have beat him anyway. It always appeared you were afraid to lose. Please don't try to discredit Kevin's accomplisments just because you never saw him run the 12's 4 times.
Forgive me if I sound bitter but I just never liked the way you guys handled things (secret time slips) who gives a rats a** about that kind of crap. If you want to race come on out, don't hide behind paper. It kind of discredits your accomplishments.
IMO

Edit: Stop whinning about what everybody else does or doesn't do, it doesn't sound good.

RTFC

I don't see where the dispute is, if it HAS to be trailored to the track it falls in the race car catagory.

If you drive the car from your house on city streets and hwys to the track and race it- its a street car-regardless of being smog legal. It has to have a plate with current tags to drive it thus it is registered and has passsed smog on it required day regardless of what alterationsit may have done in the in between periods of registering and smog certification.

Kevin91Z

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Nah, we dont see it quite that way, Dean. Our job as responsible hot rod owners in California is to keep our cars smog legal at all times. Otherwise, "non-car people", such as the clueless politicians in Sacramento, will have more fuel to add to their fire about us hot rodders being irresponsible citizens and will want to toughen up the smog laws even more. When any one of us drive our cars on the street, it needs to be fully smog legal at all times, in my opinion. Once you're at the track, if you want to pull your smog pump belt or remove your cats, go right ahead, as your car is running off-road. But you should put them back on when you're done racing. Just keep in mind your ET will be discounted if you can only run fast when your car is "illegal."

RWB____s

If you want to be legalistic about it, then lets start pulling the engines down and and replacing those camshafts that are not smog legal and are not CARB approved in the state of CA. Just how much difference in ET will that make?
No fudging saying the car passes with illegal internal parts. Its still illegal to do. Just because you can't see the internal parts that are being used does'nt make it legal to use.
If you disable smog devices for performance gain to race at the track wouldn't that make it off road race car and no different than Jerry's car or mine since it doesn't meet the "letter" of the law smog wise? If you are going to race a street car at the drags (a race car enviroment) You should then run it always in street trim
to truely say your car is street legal. I'm sure the State would have a field day if they new what was goin on.
I trailored mine so I don't have to break the law by driving it on the street. Even tho it still has all operational lights, power windows, power mirrors, 2 seats, full carpeting and insulation,
a working heater, power steering, power brakes, tilt wheel,etc. etc. Its not that different than what you drive on the street (except the obvious) .

Dyno Don

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Naw....they license the stations to test the cars, if they say it passes who are we to challenge that. The other stuff is all about the money don't you agree?
If those "other parts" were submitted they would pass the test "does not alter or cause to alter the system to cause excessive emissions" when properly tuned.

BTW:
Jerry's car is NOT a race car, it is smog legal and is driven on the street. It does however have some parts that are used on race cars.

RWB____s

I don't believe a stealth ram is smog legal. I was refering to Jerry's alum. engine setting on the stand. It would be nice if they would get those other parts legalized for those that go by the letter of the law but mfg dont want to spend the bucks to do it. (personally i don't care because i don't have to deal with it ) I'm aware that the "other" parts can be modded to pass the sniffer. It still needs that cert. from the state tho. I will do some more digging on the subject. just for personal reference

roughskinjrz

whats this about anyway? whats the ET time of this guy's 350 with no NOS or anything? the 12's?

my 3rd gen does 12's

BrandenCali

It's something they have not figured out yet.. Part of the crowd says it's a race car.. And the other part say's No..

james_85Z28

It's a street car...just in a different class with all the lightening mods done. Most of the other cars are mostly stock with a modified engine.

roughskinjrz

mine is modified only little.

just regular 86 t/a with 17" rims t-roof ram air

only 350 modified, 700r4, 410 gears auburn posi

langss

Basically....What this is about is cars that are for the most part.... street driven.... smog legal....sit in rush hour traffic (and not overheat)....get in and drive on a cruse that maybe as much as two hundred miles or more....and are slowly eating away at the > Sorry you need a roll cage barrier.

So .... come on down and join the fun. Dont be put off by the smack talk .... that is just what it is .... Welcome

injdinjn

I'm stock, sorta, kinda, maybe.

roughskinjrz

i live in Toronto, ON so i dont have SMOG regulations i dont think? well i dont abide by the rules then i guess. lol.

so whos braggin about their nightmare? i aint braggin but i got ***** to race to whoever shoots off their mouth so much

****ERS lol by the way im three sheets to the wind lol

lonsal

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He doesn't have to worry about the windshield wipers until he fills this hole shown with a yellow arrow.



Lon

cali92RS

Dude, you know pretty much everyone on this board is from Southern California??
How much ***** does it take to challenge someone in a different country??

RWB____s

What this is really about is a BS session on the legalities of mods done to engines in our cars to pass smog that according to the Bureau of Automotive Repair (I checked and talked to them) ARE ILLEGAL REGARDLESS if they PASS smog or not. No names or websites were mentioned so don't hit the panic button. So if you think your car is street legal, think again. Its only legal till we get caught

VincentZ28

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I don't give a damn about none of that. Just bring it to the track and lets have some fun. Talk smack after you cross the finishline behind me.