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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 01:58 AM
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AAAARRGH! Busted!

Some of you will be happy to know that, after 4 years of running around with a naked front bumper, I got a fix-it ticket.

The cops followed me around like they always do, giving me the evil eye and all that, but this time the light was out over the back plates, without my knowing it. And then, of course, I got cited for the front plate too, because they had to look for it, and make sure I wasn't some kind of terrorist, and poke around in the tools in the back seat.

Today just wasn't my day.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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and poke around in the tools in the back seat.
they poked you in the tools, in the back seat??


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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Heres a new one, a cop refered to a friend of mine as "a person of interest".

WTF is that.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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a cop was interested in your person??
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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Wow Julie sorry to hear they treated everything as such a situation as that.. Now remember I mentioned that ticket I got.. And such a little thing as such and they always blow things out of proportion.. Good thing it's an easy fix..
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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Well some of it was easy to fix, I already did the light bulb. The plates are something else. The car's nose has two holes for a hanger I guess. They don't match the 4 holes on the plate.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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that sux. easy fix but looks bad on the front. what city?

lots of terrorists drive thirdgens i can understand why they needed to search the car
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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It was right by John Wayne Airport.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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It was right by John Wayne Airport.
No wonder! The only Raza that is allowed past the 55 must be one of the following:

Nanny
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Or married to an Anglo

All others will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!

Know your place woman!
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Yea, you gotta be in the right town.
One of Mikes cousins made a liesurely U turn on Irvine Blvd in Tustin in front of the fire station at 4:20 pm today requiring two vehicles to slow and drive around him and not a cop in sight.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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Yea, you gotta be in the right town.
One of Mikes cousins made a liesurely U turn on Irvine Blvd in Tustin in front of the fire station at 4:20 pm today requiring two vehicles to slow and drive around him and not a cop in sight.
Hey c’mon man! He had to take it slow because he didn’t want to spill the tall boy between his legs…you have to appreciate the raw talent. Let me see you balance a shoe box top on your can, while simultaneously separating precious leaf from stem, rolling up a sticky spliff, and cranking up the radio because your favorite oldies channel decided to play you and your old ladies wedding song. It can’t be 10 and 2 all the time

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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by JulieGTA
It was right by John Wayne Airport.
That's the area.. So you had no light over your rear lic. plate? Gta's only have one bulb back there?
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Let me see you balance a shoe box top on your can, while simultaneously separating precious leaf from stem, rolling up a sticky spliff,
Thats kind of a rookie mistake....When im driving i like to make use of a pipe. Just seperate the stems and seeds, shove the green goodness in, and you're good to go. No need to try to roll one up in a moving vehicle, you run the risk of dropping some nugs.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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Well, the unspeakably ugly plates are on the front now, (thanks to you-know-who for putting together a bracket using the holes already in the car)...


(edit: Yes there's only one light bulb for the back plates. At least it was easy to get to...)

The officer told me to go to any police station, but 'any' police station charges from $15 to $25 to do the inspection. So I go all the way down to THEIR police station, where it's free, but I'm not in the computer yet because the officer hasn't turned in the ticket. So they sent me away.
Poo.

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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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yeah same thing happened to me.In front of my house of all places.The cop gave me a front license plate fix it ticket.I had to go to the Highway patrol and get a signature .Then I had to go to court and pay some dough.I did manage to get my plate on there without messing up my nose more than it already is.see.......




after I went to court...back to normal hehe


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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by cali92RS
Thats kind of a rookie mistake....When im driving i like to make use of a pipe. Just seperate the stems and seeds, shove the green goodness in, and you're good to go. No need to try to roll one up in a moving vehicle, you run the risk of dropping some nugs.
Please…I bet you were one of those kids that bought all of the Nintendo magazines just to get the secret codes so you wouldn’t have to actually play the games. Pipes get you locked up; zigzags, a bag of tobacco, and a shoebox top get you detained. Well provided you’ve got the bottom of the shoebox complete with matching Nike Cortez in the trunk. Don’t worry little man…you’ll grow up soon enough. But in the mean time stick to bubblegum cigarettes and neer beer.

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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by 82knightrider
yeah same thing happened to me.In front of my house of all places.The cop gave me a front license plate fix it ticket.I had to go to the Highway patrol and get a signature .Then I had to go to court and pay some dough.I did manage to get my plate on there without messing up my nose more than it already is.see.......
Hokey smokes. They signed that off? Two pieces of wire?

The CHP officer must have been feeling generous, because there's no way that meets the vehicle code. I'm surprised he let that pass.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 02:06 AM
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So, I'm waiting all week to get the ticket information in the mail, like they said they would. Today, I get something in the mail... It looks like a ticket. Yes, it is a ticket... just not the one I was waiting for!!! I got busted running a red light last Friday!

The pictures are fantastic! They only cost $350 too. They got front and back, and me, in detail. If I can, I'll scan them up.

The best part is, I remember setting off a red light camera last weekend, but just not at that particular intersection!
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 02:26 AM
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Poor Julie your insurance agent is going to be real happy with you I hate those freaking intersection camera's. You got to watch them as you approach to make sure do not to get tagged by one.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 02:41 AM
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Go to traffic school if you can, or you will cry when it hits the insurance for 3 years. There's also some kind of secondary traffic school you can ask for if you go to court the first day, but i dunno how it affects your insurance, it might just take the points away.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 02:42 AM
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True story: anyone remember seeing the guy up in LA somewhere running the camera red light with a gorilla head, no front plates and giving the camera a dual bird salute? They showed it on the news (with of course his birds blurred out). It was right when they started with these intersection camera's years back.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:46 AM
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Always fight your tickets even if you are wrong. Always plea NOT GULITY. That will keep you from paying court assement fees. Try to go to traffic school on both tickets. If you don't, you will pay for it down the road. Always go out with a fight. If the Officer shows up, request traffic school.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by VincentZ28
Always fight your tickets even if you are wrong. Always plea NOT GULITY. That will keep you from paying court assement fees. Try to go to traffic school on both tickets. If you don't, you will pay for it down the road. Always go out with a fight. If the Officer shows up, request traffic school.
You can only go to traffic school once for a specified time period. I don't remember if it is once a year or once every three years.
She doesn't need to go to traffic school on a "fix it" ticket. Just fix it, and get it signed off. That one doesn't even affect your insurance rates since it isn't a moving violation. Go to traffic school on the red light violation. It won't do any good to plead not guilty on the red light violation, it doesn't require anybody to be there, just a clerk to bring in the pictures. This begs another question, if they got pictures of your car from the front and back, why do we still have a law requiring those awful front license plates? Besides, if a car is fast enough, front plates are a waste; they never see anything but the back one anyway!

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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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I was told here in OC that if you want to fight the ticket, you give up the traffic school option. And if you do opt for traffic school you had to wait 18 months before doing it again.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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Yup ,you gotta pay your ticket 1st even if you do want to fight it.


And for the gorilla head one....Thats funny....I hope he was smart enough to cover his license plates b4 he did that prank...lol

Originally posted by BretD 88GTA
Hokey smokes. They signed that off? Two pieces of wire?

The CHP officer must have been feeling generous, because there's no way that meets the vehicle code. I'm surprised he let that pass.
well,it was 12 gauge wire.Its holding up my muffler too

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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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I didn't know about giving up the right to traffic school if you fight a ticket, but 18 months sound right. I went to traffic school almost 15 years ago the last time. I doubt that there is any point fighting a traffic signal picture ticket. The only way you could win is to prove you are not in the pictures.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Hypethetical question?

what happens if someone else was driving Julies car when that red light incident happened.I mean...How would the cops get the real culprit They have julies tags but not julie driving the car...how would they identify the driver
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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Re: Hypethetical question?

Originally posted by 82knightrider
what happens if someone else was driving Julies car when that red light incident happened.I mean...How would the cops get the real culprit They have julies tags but not julie driving the car...how would they identify the driver
They can't, that's why you can successfully fight a photo light ticket. The court can only say that you're guilty if they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you were the one driving the car.

That's the reason why if, for a regular ticket, if the officer doesn't write your name or address correctly on the ticket, you can fight it in court and win fairly easily since it shows that the ticket was for somebody else (even if it really was for you).
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Another friend of mine got caught by the camera recently and got 3 photos in the mail with his ticket. He said these pics are extremely hi-res, they can see you very clearly.
He's going to fight it claiming he was making a right turn on red and you can see his blinker is on in the photo.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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According to the information on the ticket, there is an acoompanying video, so these must be scenes not photos... The company who does the work comes from Arizona. No wonder it's so expensive...

The text in the black area at the top of the images says :

Location: (etc)
Date: , Time: , Speed Limit (45).
Lane 1. , Vehicle Speed (25) , Phase: Red , Duration 0.22











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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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You had glasses on.Just dye your hair and they cant prove its you lol
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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Julie,
At what stage of the light did you commit to going on thru?

The reason I ask is that I was once told in traffic school that if your car breaks the plane of the first line of the crosswalk while the light is still yellow, you at that point are committed to going thru the intersection.

Legally, you're not supposed to get cited for that. It's the point-of-no-return. You create a greater hazzard by trying to stop.

Maybe you were cited because you were making a left-hand turn. Still, were you waiting behind the crosswalk and then dashed thru after the light changed? Or, were you sitting part way into the intersection?
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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Nevermind. After looking closer at the photos, you can see the left-turn light was red before you hit the crosswalk.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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note to self:

Make sure and duck under the dash board level and hide face completely next time I am entering an intersection through a red light.

An added plus, my head down my save my face from impacting the glass windshield in the event of a colision.

"The state made me do it occifer."

Makes me want to go out and get a ticket in my truck while driving it solely from the passenger seat (bench seat) Its a friggin trip to see me do that when you are in the car behind, looks like no driver. I can even do it while legally seat belted into the passenger harness.

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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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I know what's in the pictures... But I really don't remember any of it. I think it's pretty funny... except for the $360!
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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What I wonder is what happened to the one you remember tripping? Are you expecting to get another one in the mail?
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Time to buy "photo blocker" paint for your plates.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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The neighbor next door got the Red Light Camera ticket in the mail and he was not driving the car at the time. He had to tell the court who was driving, or pay the ticket. He gave the name and then got fined for not having them on his insurence. Needless to say he was not happy. Moral of the story .... Be carefull what you tell the court.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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If this isn't the intersection you recall running the red turn light, then hold off on paying the ticket. You'll save .37 by sending in the money for both red-light tickets in one envelope. Boy, that "money for mods" fund is sure going to be sucked dry paying for your flagrant code violations. Here's the link you're going to need shortly.

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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gave the name and then got fined for not having them on his insurence.
I would have to reread my policy, which I am not going to do, but unless the ins co changed something any licensed driver is covered driving my vehicles, exc a minor living with me.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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Mine too. They do want the regular drivers of our vehicles to be listed on the policy (which they are). But not having a someone listed doesn't exclude them from driving one of my vehicles.

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by lonsal
Boy, that "money for mods" fund is sure going to be sucked dry paying for your flagrant code violations. Here's the link you're going to need shortly.
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Well, if worse comes to worst, at least I won't be spending money on gas!
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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I'm just telling you what he told me. He was pretty upset that he got the ticket in the first place, so who knows perhaps he pissed off the judge.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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ok this is a long shot...

Ask how the pictures are verified from tampering. In the UK and Australia traffic cameras can no longer be used as sole evidence.

More specifically: These systems used MD5 hashes to "verify" the images, but a computer literate person successfully fought the ticket by demonstrating and proving an MD5 hash can be created, artificially, to a modified image.

see also: http://www.highwayrobbery.net/index.htm
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