here is why http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vo...52183.200k.asx

 

http://www.jiffylubeproblems.com/

I can't stand those morons. They didn't change my oil filter, just the oil, so I never went back.

 

Thats typical of national companies.
The cost of the Franchise and having to purchase everything from corporate at inflated prices and having repair fees dictated by corporate leaves very little for profit, so they cheat.
Managers and district managers are rated on profit not customer satisifaction and with 10 milion people in So Cal thats a lot of one time customers. They don t need to be good.
And how many people can check what they do. A lot of people dont even know what a oil filter is, let alone how to know if its been replaced.

 

im not surprised and it obiviously jsuy not jiffy lube i ve taken my car in for an oil change one time in the winter come back to pick it up an the the oil i supplied them with they didnt even use in fact the mecahanic was gonna keep it for him self and put sum cheap stuff in my car an didnt even change the filter wen i asked him about it he said "ohh u nver told me to change the oil filter" plus they didnt use a gasket on the drain plug the just torqued the hell out of it. on the other hand there are a few good mechanics out there

 

"new scheme"? Hah!

 

What's attracted all the Canadians all of a sudden? You all need to move down here out of the cold.

Those quick lube places always have some sort of scam in place to make you worry about your car. They got me pretty good once by showing me a little bit of my differential fluid on an old brown paper grocery bag.

"Look how brown it is." they said. It's supposed to look pink like this new fluid" as they showed me a bright white styrofoam cup with new fluid.

It was many years ago, and you really should change out your differential every 40-50K or so, but they could have just asked me. I don';t remember what they charged, but I'm sure it was a rip for five minutes worth of work.

They also have this new thing to perform a transmission fluid transfusion. Instead of dropping the pan and changing the tranny fluid filter, they just run a few gallons of transmission fluid through the lines with the engine running until it's all replaced. Not a bad idea, but the filter needs to be changed, too.

 

Some of the guys on the GM-Trucks board do this in their driveway.

After changing the filter, they disconnect one of the trans cooler lines and then run the engine briefly to pump out the old fluid — while adding new fluid. This will completely flush the trans and torque converter.

I'll just stick with dropping the pan and changing the filter at the required interval. Since my truck pan has a drain plug, I'll just change the fluid more frequently.

I run an external trans filter on my GTA, so I can change that more often and not have to mess with the internal filter as much.

 

yeah jiffy lube sucks, I took my car to them to have the oil changed and get it smogged the year I bought it.
I told them to put in a new oil filter and do the oil change BEFORE smogging it, I requested and paid for pennzoil, they actually used Exxon Superflow which is the 89 cent junk, reused my old filter, and did my oil change after performing the smog inspection, which was the reverse of my instructions.

And I won't even go into the mess they made of my valve covers

I change my own oil now, those morons won't get another nickel from me!

 

external?? do you have pic??

 

I hope you're not talking about me. If you are, I direct your attention to my join date.

 

this is why i ONLY go to shops for wheel alignments.. i do ALL other work myself.. oil changes, tire rotations, filter replacements, brakes, you name it i do it myself.. prevents any kind of scam from even being a thought.. you save labor money AND you gain experience and skill, all at the same time.. and i can always fit it into MY schedule..

 

AMEN brother. That way if it breaks down on you too. You can blame the parts and not the faulty labor. That and you actually learn something about the vehicle so that you can continue to keep it running like it should. Anyone who is physically able to get underneath the car and change the oil should.

 

drop the tank to change a fuel filter? The jeeps filter is inline after the tank. He marked the fuel pump. I wouldn't go to Jiffy Lube for directions, let alone let them work on my car.

 

While I'm not vouching for any Jiffy Lube other than the few I have worked at, your experience depends on the manager.

A good Jiffy Lube (yes, some of you think that's an oxymoron) is one that is usually always busy. The location in Chino Hills is by far the best one I have seen or been to. It all depends on the manager.

Some of the guys at the other locations I wouldn't trust even with my truck which I abuse regularly. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying every single Jiffy Lube is bad. I'm saying the quality of work and customer service depends solely on the manager. If you have a bad manager, expect bad service. If you have a good manager, you know things will be done right.

That being said, if anyone wants to know which one I work at in the off chance they need to bring their car in, hit me up and I'll gladly tell you which one I work at so you know when you get your car done by me, it will be done right.

 

Don and I flushed and re-filled the trans fluid on my Firebird shortly after I first got it using that method. It sounds simple, but it was a mess.

Lon

 

That is true they marked the fuel pump and not the fuel filter, I still do not trust EZ LUBE or Jiffy Lube they are by no means "EXPERTS" they just hire young people and pay them 8-9 bucks most of them have no experiance, they try to sell you stuff you don't need so that they could earn more money on thier checks thats the way that company works. Although when confronted on TV they blame it on the employees, it's all about the money. People are still going to go to Jiffy Lube, EZ Lube, I will never ever go to these places. I only go to Shops for work that requires a lift or some sort of expensive machine that I don't own and transmission work :-p .

 

No pics, but I can explain how I have it set up.

I have the filter and housing mounted in the passenger side front fender, in front of the wheel/tire. There's a nice spot there on the Firebirds for mounting the housing and the inner fender liner shields it from any road debris. It's very easy to access from under the car.

It's then just a matter of routing the lines. On my GTA, the cooler line exits the trans., runs to an external cooler, then to the radiator cooler, then to the external filter, then back to the trans.

 

I never have had a problem with Jiffy Lube, I bring my own Oil and I get a Discount. They have always replaced my oil filter either with theres or my own. For the transmission I go elsewhere.

 

Bret, you have the fluid routed wrong. It should run to the internal radiator cooler first, then to the external cooler. Run the way you have it routed will cause your fluid to be warmed back up when it gets through the radiator cooler. Your engine is designed to run at 220 degrees, you really want the trans to run cooler than that.

 

 

I'm running it that way intentionally after a suggestion by Be Cool Radiators. The idea is that when running the car hard, the trans heats up — hotter than the coolant.

"A: The transmission fluid cooler in a radiator is designed to do two things: 1. To bring the transmission fluid up to the proper operating temperature 2. To keep the transmission fluid at the proper operating temperature after the initial warm up. If you desire to run an external cooler, (i.e. cars with high stall torque converters) Be Cool recommends that you route the cooling lines from the transmission to the external cooler and then to the cooler in the radiator. For optimum cooling efficiency mount the external cooler off to the side of the radiator. This will allow maximum airflow to reach the radiator."

Passing that extra hot trans fluid thru the internal cooler first could bring up the engine temp. Passing it thru the external first cools it down before it hits the radiator.

I figured it was worth a try. Haven't had any issues with it since I changed the routing to this path.

My car normally runs pretty cool. Down around 180°. When pushing the car, the trans heats up regardless of the routing path, but the coolant temp. stays consistent.

At some point here I'm going to drop in my larger aluminum radiator. I also have a second, larger external trans cooler I may add to the system. Since pulling the A/C I may now have the room to run the dual external trans coolers. At that point I might go back to the original fluid path you mentioned Russ.

 

http://video.aol.com/video-search/Ji.../id/2742093665

 

i worked at two jiffy lubes for 2 1/2 years and i never had a car i worked on come back with a complaint i guess its just where your located and who they hire they are a ripoff though 31 bucks for and oil change save money do it your self is my motto

 

trans. flush really works if you do iy right. i have done loys of them at the dealerships i have worked at.