Im not interested in buying a Zo6 and blow you all away. Maybe later down the road I might buy a real performance car but know that's not important. The Iroc has been a learning experience and at first I liked the 3rdgen crowd. I had a few friends that said Branden don't sell your car your going to regret it down the road. So I kept building it. This is all Blown out of proportion here. Because oh the person paying is the one at fualt I guess that's what you say. Most the people that have had there 3rdgen experience and had there cars built either by themselves or by Don have quit sold there cars and went on to better things. And regards to money my family has money invested into property's and Cd's and other things. So it's not like oh Branden wants a Zo6 let's buy him one. I buy my own cars and I have paid for my builds myself. Most of you know Im not in the working field anymore as I am disabled. I have a lot of back problems still and will for ever. If I was working all this time yeah I probably would have a Z06 or money down on a New Camaro, but I don't work. My Home is paid for so hey work money would all be clear. Im not here to beat everybody at the track. And if I owned a Zo6 I would be around a diffrent crowd of people and a whole diffrent class of people also.
My car is not junk and it can be fixed, by then I wont be hanging around this crowd that probably dont like me any how. Myself and Wife have noticed that years ago. I dont know why but hey that's the way I see it and she has noticed also. There are a few people that are cool to me and they know who there are so there is no since mentioning there names.
Most of you think this is a game and it turns into a bunch of B.S and it cuts all the fun out. I have rarely done anything with this club and there is some other people that just didnt do much with the club either.

About the Government yeah it's understandable but after all these years War get's a lil old. Some say this some say that, it almost like bringing up God or talking about religions it always goes no where and it can never can really be talked about. And that's just the way it is. Im not saying Im the smartest person in the world But I can tell you this I have Done things for this world that I can never talk about. I just had mentioned that to Ivan the other day. And of course not I wouldnt think I could think In my thoughts that I could ever run this Country. All we can hope is that things get better and im sure it will slowly but surely.

As for Lucas hey you must be bright, look I was to busy chasing girl's in High School and they where to busy chasing me. My high school required more credits to graduate then any Hischool in the State. I was to popular and English wasnt my best subject. So I wasnt so much a Geek know it all in HighSchool. I just did what I wanted to do. You dont have to always be smart to live here anyways. But I wouldnt consider myself and idiot. Im more brighter in person than on a computer as a computer hides my expression's.

Hey if you feel I have junk then that's your own words I really dont care. This is just my first build and a lilttle change I could have a nice car. You never have seen my car and most people like it. I have seen way worse 3rdgens out there, not saying any names but I have also seen nicer 3rdgen's also.

 

LMFAO ...Im with you... Millions and millions yet were building a thirdgen with a mediocre parts list at best.. Sounds like millonaires to me...

 

Yeah thats why my family drives Bently's and 70,000 Suv's. You walk into Wynn and many casino's and you walk on our ****. But keep your shoes clean please.

Oh wait you live in Cincinnati you don't know what Marble and Granite is. Your house probably has termites.

And you for got to read the thread I said I pay and build my own car with my own money. Ya fool.

 

Geeze Ivan starts this and has me going. Wow Im having fun.
Well Gene said Don isnt even worth talking about so good thing the end of this subject went another route. Like I said I have not seen a car stay together that he built. But oh I guess those people where to poor and couldnt afford a Golden engine huh? I bet you fix Julie's car that was not your fualt but you cant be man enough to fix mine, or at the time never helped and I figured that one out. Even my own brother said you should have never taken your car to this guy.

 

Kinda sounds like Jethro's uncle Jed should be able to put him in a better ride.I tried to stay out of this...... Bill (Hick from Palmdale, barely keepin' my family fed, y'all)

 

LOL... Yeah but your talking crap and referencing your families money. YET you cant afford to build yours right? 25K budget to build the car and your using that stuff?

Then your questioning my house... Lets use some logic here... Your $5K max build including the cost of the car comes with a million dollar family/background... So using that logic My Much more expensive much faster car must mean I am related to billionaires..

Put the bong down..

Your the one looking like the FOOL... Your obviously a little kid... Only little kids reference their familes money when they obviously are of limited income themselves..

 

Lol Bill I hear ya there. Im trying to make it myself. And Im making it.

 

Hey old timer we have new money now. Im not a kid God dam read the frikin thread. I dont give a hoot. over 540 views something must be good. You think I was going to spend 25k on a 3rdgen? it doesnt cost more than 5k to buy a ls1 or a 383 on Scoggindickey that makes the same power I make or I make more so. So sh*t get it together it doesnt cost much money to build a 3rdgen, why dont you ask somebody first, This is California you can only go so far and I wanted a Gm build so I can make GM power unlike other so you dont know what your talking about.

Is this going to end? All of you against me what cowards!
Read the frikin thread again I said I dont use drugs!

 

Your the aggressor here... I laughed at you because you post makes no sense .... You say things like my house has termites...Ragging on cincy or my shoes being dirty..

THen I do a quick search ON BIG PLAYA here.. HMMMMM Sure looks like a rockafeller to me... These posts scream millionaire...

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...867-post6.html

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...73-post16.html

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...79-post13.html

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...697-post7.html

This will end as soon as you stop attacking me... I do not wish to continue to argue here... However if it keeps up...Ill continue to uncover the truth...

 

don't mean to jump in but kenwood the links u posted are from a brandencali he's calibranden 2 different guys

 

I wouldnt be to sure about that one...

 

So what's your point you found BrandenCali, that was around the time I had gotten injured and was out of work. Are you trying to prove that I didnt have money or what? You don't even know me and you don't know when I had money like that. So I really don't get your point to those threads?
Dude Im just messing around because comments like what are coming. I don't know you and will never know you and Im just messing around so no need to take things seriously. Im not doing this to be a Jerk but you all are being a lilttle hard. Most of you dont know what happend. And if you had someone build your engine and had problems after you paid a good amount of money for the work you be doing the same thing Im doing all over again! So I was not an idiot when I had this engine built, And a matter of fact with these heads cars are proven to make this kind of power built with everything you can get. My problem is that Don all he does for most of his builds is use High compression he is known for doing that. He knows what he did. I had said everything I had to say so I dont know what else to tell you. I have had many friends say Branden you are right. Most of them are not even around Tgo any longer or even own a 3rdgen. What's the big deal to tell somebody hey Branden when I build your car it's going to ping your not going to like it. Or Branden your spending over 200.00 on a crank so no smog shop knows what I have under my hood, and fail to tell me untill again all this hit the fan and I was told I cant even do a cam swap? How about that how sad is that. Most of the cars Don built because these guys swap cams like fly's that they can swap larger cams and fail to tell me? So there now Im stuck with a ZZ4 cam for a 100.00 bucks or so just so Don can do his swap parts thing these guys always do. Like I said these people never liked me much as they might be jealous or I dont know. But I have known this everytime I get around most of them. So how would you like that? Like I said I knew more about these cars years ago now Im onto diffrent things. This is not even a Hobby anymore, My car sits and that's the way I like it. We are talking about a pinging frikin car man! What's the big deal to fix that huh? I dont have to Lie. Im not a frikin Liar Im 30 frikin years old Im a man not a frikin punk Kid. I have lived many experiences. So tell me what's the big deal to tell somebody the truth that your car is going to Ping. Ping was not even in Don's mind back then. He was doing his best to keep his shop open and trying to handle the jobs that came in. Don is near the age to be able to retire. So ComeBacks as most shops use that word, That's not big on his list. No Warranty I guess I was unaware of that and was dispointed not to even get a reciept to show somebody or anyone the amount of work I have put in the car. So how would you like that. So what's the deal with you guys? Get your head together. I mean come on. Such a fight over this crap! How low could you all go! Im to frikin Nice. That's what it is. Look Karma comes and goes.
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I had to change my name because when around all this happend I was cut off from posting or anything with this board. I dont know maybe when they sold Tgo I got cut out somehow. Not pointing any fingers. Im CaliBranden Now.

 

You may not be a 'kid' but you are acting like a child. And your writing is atrocious lending further credence to any initial judgment as to your age and maturity. I seem to recall some other child on these boards a few years ago with alleged money and a world wide drag racing empire that couldn't even change a cap and rotor...

I doubt your 'friend' knows more than many people on this board, but I'll list one name that is universal on TGO and these cars. Vader. He's probably forgotten in his dotage more than your 'friend' even thinks he knows. Probably one too many pancakes with his 'special silver sauce'. I have a much more comprehensive list that incidentally is delineated into expert areas and such as that is how the real world works.

That said, if this 'friend' is so knowledgeable, why don't you know even the basics of automotive theories? You are absolutely clueless with regard to the workings of this machine, and yet, you have no seeming hesitation to attempt to assassinate and defame someone's character and name.

If you had as much wealth as you proclaim, why is there not an LSx motor in that car? Why cobble parts together?

What exactly did he do that you did not specify him to do? Did you hire him as a consultant or a builder? It seems from a perfunctory read that you hired him to BUILD something. If you wanted a consultant, you should have hired one. This is of course ignoring any assertions that there were some warnings given to you.

How's this, if you think you are truly in the right, why haven't you filed a lawsuit? Mayhap there is not a shed of ground to which you can lay your foot?

BTW, you should probably do some research on the guy you tried to bestow termites upon. You may be surprised at the car, condition and hardware contained therein. You probably wouldn't believe their either.

That all said, let's hit on another point of ignorance of yours. Anyone who is remotely read in history and has some knowledge of military tactics knows we went to Iraq for the bases we now have. That's it. This was in order to procure some measure of safety against Iran and Syria (this is a duh even for ardent Demmies). This is why Lybia started screaming at the top of their lungs the day after the invasion to get the UN into their country for inspections (Even Momo Ku-dum-dum could see what was happening for crying out loud!). Look at a map, review the difficulty which we had invading Iraq and then take that knowledge of tactics into account when planning an attack into Iran. The necessity is painfully apparent. Sadly while I have been saying this for years, it has been recently... hinted at... by a now retired General or some such.
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As to your question about what would we do? I'd build my motor myself. Those being 'hard' on you or the situation also have those abilities and have proven them a time or two. Your position is untenable yet you do not even realize this, rather, you think you have actually proven a point other than ignorance. :shrug:

 

Red Devil Im not going to speak any further about my friends knowledge, His build is a near 2,000 hp Iroc. I dont have time to speak any longer right now I have better things to do. I'll respond to you later.

Red Devil I do know the auto industry. I worked in the auto industry. I worked with transmissions.

Im not here to say oh my friend knows this or that. He is not involved with these people. I have learned many things from him. But why do I need to tell you this?
I really don't care what you think about my post and if you think Im so dumb why cant you figure it out yourself? Im not the best speller I know that. I really don't have much to say about your comment. This is much better than a lawsuite Like I said again Don couldnt even handle repairing or replacing somebodys rim how is he going to come up with the money for a lawsuit? Im just pointing out the facts that is it. I think I have said enough. Some people cant talk about there experiences because some are still awaiting for there own cars to be fixed and they most likely dont want to be involved.

Im not going to comment about Politics any longer because I have my view and you have yours. United States cant even handle Iraq so I highly doubt they can handle Iran. They have over 200,000 men waiting to fight and Die for there Country. They probably kick our *** and China would probably not foot our War Bills any longer.

 

I think he means he has to hit the dictionary. And I thought I showed MY a$$ once in a while. You take the award, Jethro.To the other people who may be getting way to caught up in this thread, it is the holiday season....peace be with you all, good will toward men (and women, wink). Bill

 

The fire you kindle for your enemy often burns yourself more than them. ~Chinese Proverb

 

Boy, you are apparently far more daft than even I gave you credit for. Don't think so? Here...

I'm sure that's it. YOU brought him up as 'proof' of your claim, however, you can not establish this 'friend' to be anything more than an ethereal figure of imagination.



And you show a woefully lacking knowledge of said 'industry' in this thread alone.


The reasonable conclusion that most would draw is that 1. You are using him as a negative reference against another, more tangible person, and 2. You keep harping on about his expertise, yet had someone else do your engine work. Logic would dictate otherwise in both those instances, or rather to put it into your terminology so that you may possibly comprehend... I'm calling bullshit.

Much to your apparent chagrin, I truly don't care what you think period. On the other hand, freely besmirching someone on a public board invites comment from anyone, including me. I think I have a firm grasp, much better than yours in fact, of what happened here. It becomes even more apparent as you try and weave your way around certain pertinent questions rather than flatly answer them.

The list is far longer, I am sorry.

Really? I would beg to differ on that point, however, I think it is quite apparent to all what the truth there is.

Defamation. You may want to look that up. If besmirching his name is 'fun' than you have some serious issues, otherwise follow the proper route, this isn't it as you have provided no proof and refuse to answer the aforementioned questions.

You have done nothing of the sort. I see no 'facts'. In fact I haven't truly seen anything refuted by you in any convincing manner to anything the others have said either. As for your opinion of what someone else should or should not do, I do not think you have shown near the aptitude in this 'field' to make that assertion.

Kindly note, my 'position' on the Iraq thing was not political, but strategic, learn the difference. You really don't want me to start pointing out your fallacious assumptions on the economy either now do you?

Here, I'll boil it down for you , just answer this:Otherwise you are just a lying windbag without any substance nor any reasonable argument or stance, much like your 'political' one.

 

I would be seriously pissed if I were you. Perhaps you should start making flame posts because they made you take more credits than any other high school to graduate and you still ended up sounding like someone with a degenerative brain disease.

...as if that wasn't painfully obvious in this thread...

Boy, I sure hope you are "more brighter" in person. I wish I could be "more brighter" sometimes too.

On a serious note, I have seen more than once where you post two replies in a row with conflicting points of view. Are there two of you, or are you just that strung out?

Furthermore, what does ANY of your last six posts have to do with Don? You started a thread, flamed a man, sounded like a schizophrenic caveman, drug your equally intelligent friend in to back you up and have done nothing but talk in circles since then backpedaling your way out of the hole you dug.

 

Oooo, I got one...

If you bite a big dog's tail, you're likely to get bit by a big dog. -me

There was another one about peeing in the wind.... and Some other one about a missing car and some field somewhere in IN...
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Mr. Lucas, didn't you know intelligence is all in the expressions? Mental capacity has no bearing on that whatsoever!

 

Omfg you do not give up do you? Like I said Don can't handle to even build a proper build I'll keep saying it untill I am Blue in the face. Yes I am calling him out of course. This is no B.S. I hope that people learn from this other than your None sense of what I have stated. And I already know many people have learned from this many years ago. You really want me to take this man to court than I will do so. Matter of fact When Im ready I will get the paper work and file how about that? Im not going to go on for this for ever. Im just going to take the man to Court and let them decide the case. Im sick of responding to you Lowsy people. So there you got it. I'll take him to Small claims court. I have nothing else to say. I got all the infomation I needed Thank you have a great day. You people have really shown who you are and Im sure a judge will refrence to that. Have a great Holiday and leave me a lone I did not start this flame somebody else did, I brought up old facts and that is it. So leave me alone. Taking somebody to court is very Easy. So there you Go Don I will be taking you to court.

 

I think the proverb of which you speak is "When in doubt- blame everything on Mike Lucas"
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Get ready to hear this from the judge:

AND get ready to file another lawsuit and flame-post on your attorney since he will take your money and get nothing accomplished.

 

Actually I'm bored, no paperwork tonight and idiots are entertaining to poke for a while.

Can you keep going until you are black in the face?

Calling him out for what exactly? You STILL have not stated anything other than complete utter nonsense. Answer the questions.

Put the crack pipe down and slowly step away... and yes it is BS as you have nothing substantive to say/show/etc. Answer the questions.

You do realize that the court can find for abuse of process or some such don't you? Why not... Answer the questions.

You should be ready now if you are willing to publicly defame him. How about you... Answer the questions.

Not forever, just answer the pertinent questions.

You're screwed then.

You have a whole LOT to learn about the judicial system boy. You must be as knowledge... ahh screw it everyone can deduce it on their own.

Someone else did and you decided to poke the fire and now you are getting burned. Surprise!!!

And since we made a reasonable request, I can now assume that you concede the point that you are a lying windbag without any substance nor any reasonable argument or stance. Thanks for playing with the Dark Side where things are... well... dark, have a nice day.

 

I think we are finished with this Thread. It can be locked or deleted I have everything I need. Have a great Holiday this is all finished.

 

I thought it was Darren something or other?
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Not your call, not your board, note your reputation you are trying to trash... though you are doing a number on your own at that.

Answer the questions.

 

I have nothing to say to you. I said I am finished.
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Leave me alone!

 

Why then do you keep replying?



Answer the questions.


Are you by chance related to Johnny Kerry?

 

No Im related to God do you have a problem with that?

 

No, I have a problem with you besmirching a man's name and not providing any evidence, nor answering pertinent questions. Why not put it to rest by answering the questions?

I'll tell you why, you DID in fact insist on a certain build, you did NOT have the money you are trying to flaunt in this thread and tried to cobble what you thought/heard/wanted to be a decent build and insisted without knowing anything about what you were demanding and then when it runs like *** for a streetable car you blame the builder who, like Burger King, made it YOUR way. If that is INCORRECT please answer the reasonable questions I propounded previously.

 

Branden, its simple why you think people dont like you.

First, you barely show up to any meets, so people only know the online you.

The online you posts with rambling sentences, incoherant thoughts, and broken english. It makes you sound half your age.

Lastly, your political views lean far to the left, while 90% of hot rodders lean to the right. Its just the nature of this hobby.

As far as your friend, ask Alex what he thinks. The guy is a great race car builder, but he doesnt know street cars.

The biggest thing you have accomplished in this thread is far from what you've wanted. The only thing you have gained is a black mark on your name. Not that I expect you would, but dont bother coming around the shop looking for help. You wont find anyone willing to lend you a hand.

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