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I thought I'd post this for the PST vs Energy Suspension debate!

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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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I thought I'd post this for the PST vs Energy Suspension debate!

Check out what this guy found in his PST rebuild kit!

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=125197

He found a bag with ES bushings, and a "real" part #, and paid $18 more. Check out the message, it really makes me wonder about PST... whether their stuff is polygraphite or not... and whether ES's "black" bushings have polygraphite in them already.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 04:46 PM
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I have the PST front end kit, and I can teell you that they definently had poly in them. Unfortunantly, one of the tie rod ends they sent me DID NOT have any threads!
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 10:00 AM
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I installed all Energy Suspension stuff in the front end of Redraif's car, and there are no squeaks whatsoever. Just use plenty of the supplied lube, and either will be fine. I have used both with good results, though I used PST back in 90 or so when rebuilding my Nova SS...don't know if they're the same quality now or not.
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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by Hulk0202
I have the PST front end kit, and I can teell you that they definently had poly in them.
Polyurethane or polygraphite? Was there any part # on the bags? PST claims polygraphite, but gave the guy a bag of energy suspension bushings- which are only supposed to be polyurethane.

I've heard the same thing, LT1, to use a lot of the lube... but I though it interesting that the guy got charged $50 for bushings that he could've bought for $32. If PST plays like that, then I won't bother buying their kit, I'll just buy the bushings for cheaper through Summit!
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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 09:21 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't graphite conduct electricity? If so, and if there's a high enough concentration of it in the bushings, reason would have it that you could do an ohm check to determine whether it's in there. Obviously a polyurethane bushing should show an infinite impedance, but if I'm right, maybe the graphite jobs will show some sort of high k-ohm impedance. Then again, maybe not.
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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 04:24 PM
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not enough graphite. but yes graphite will conduct.
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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't graphite conduct electricity?
Solid graphite does, not when it's powdered into dust scattered through another material.
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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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That was a very creative testing idea. I thought it was cool.
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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 05:41 PM
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I kind of tend to think that the supposed benefits of graphite impregnated bushings are anyway.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 10:40 PM
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Hi, I'm the guy that got the bag of ES bushings with a PST sticker on them. If you read the post above you might believe that ES sells the bushings to PST and PST re-disributes them. My question is why do they put the same number on them as the regular poly ones. How would they keep them straight??

Who knows.
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by TomP
Polyurethane or polygraphite? Was there any part # on the bags? PST claims polygraphite, but gave the guy a bag of energy suspension bushings- which are only supposed to be polyurethane.
From Energy Suspension's Website: "For those applications where component twisting typically occurs, our line of black HYPER-FLEX™ polyurethane products contain graphite. This graphite impregnation delivers a self-lubricated effect, reducing the need to lubricate the components."

I though it interesting that the guy got charged $50 for bushings
How do you figure?
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 11:12 AM
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Yet another reason I will go with Performance Suspension Components, they use/sell true american made quality stuff.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by MRZ28HO
Yet another reason I will go with Performance Suspension Components, they use/sell true american made quality stuff.
What reason is that? They get their polygraphite bushings from Energy Suspension as well.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by MRZ28HO
Yet another reason I will go with Performance Suspension Components, they use/sell true american made quality stuff.
I went with that company. I think their parts are great. This was after I had speed merchant install my front end last year.





All Performance Suspenion Components. It was a difference between night and day after it was all done.
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