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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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LCA Bushings

I boxed my stock LCAs, now I want to get rid of those rubber worn out bushings in them. What does everybody think about these
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 08:20 PM
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Car: 1999 Yamaha Banshee
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they say they only fit 1982-1987 cars but the LCAs didnt change did they so surely they would fit my 1992
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 09:15 PM
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not bad... looks like stronger rubber..
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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they do look like rubber, but it says Al so......
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 09:31 PM
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If they were coustructed as Global Wests Del-A-Lum I'd say go for it. I don't like the idea of running a SOLID aluminum bushing.

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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 10:13 PM
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Car: 87 aniv vert, 90 Iroc, 87 LT
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Transmission: MM5, MM5 conversion, MM5 conversion
Axle/Gears: 3.45, 3.73, 3.73
pleeeease! if you drive your car on the street ever, you will regret those, pay the extra and get some aftermarket LCA's with poly bushings
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by lonsal
If they were coustructed as Global Wests Del-A-Lum I'd say go for it. I don't like the idea of running a SOLID aluminum bushing.

Lon
why not
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by 90iroc5spd
pleeeease! if you drive your car on the street ever, you will regret those, pay the extra and get some aftermarket LCA's with poly bushings
elaborate, people say a big cam on the street sucks i dont mind......
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 10:42 PM
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elaborate...ok......... they will wear faster than ploy, and they will give a very harsh ride. personally i dont care about ride, but longevity.......................they will wear fast on the street!
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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ok. how fast are we talking here? how many miles? i can see it wearing out, maybe i need a solid stainless steel bushing???


ride harshness - i dont mind
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by lonsal
If they were coustructed as Global Wests Del-A-Lum I'd say go for it. I don't like the idea of running a SOLID aluminum bushing.

Lon
how are global wests constructed?
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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just get polyurethane, spohn sells them for stock control arms http://spohn.net/index.cfm?fuseactio...&productid=102

they're as stiff as you'll ever need and won't make your butt sore
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 03:33 PM
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If you have ever tried to replace them in stock sheet-metal control arms, you wouldn't be asking this. You would have done the correct thing up front, which is to just put the stock ones in the dumpster, and got something decent.

I have the Lakewoods; they cost very little, are many times stronger than sheet metal ones boxed or not, come with poly bushings, and only took like 10 minutes to put in.... it took me as long to jack the car up as it did to make the swap.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 03:40 PM
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poly is an option that i know about - and am considering. BUT i would really like to know the life span for the Al ones, even if i dont buy them.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by RB83L69
If you have ever tried to replace them in stock sheet-metal control arms, you wouldn't be asking this. You would have done the correct thing up front, which is to just put the stock ones in the dumpster, and got something decent.

I have the Lakewoods; they cost very little, are many times stronger than sheet metal ones boxed or not, come with poly bushings, and only took like 10 minutes to put in.... it took me as long to jack the car up as it did to make the swap.
well time isnt that important to me. performance wise though i am NOT going to go out and spend anything over $50 on LCAs bottom line. i already boxed them - that cost me $0. i KNOW that was less money then the lakewoods or the spohns. they do however come with poly bushings. how hard are we talking to remove the bushings and get the new ones in, because last time i checked nothing is that hard when you have the right tools. i have heard of melting and hammering the old ones out and then pressing the new ones in. thats not difficult. takes longer the 10 mins but not difficult. as far as doing the correct thing up front explain how i messed up when i boxed the stock ones. the rear end was 30 miles away from my car and i had the LCAs just sitting there so i boxed them - whats wrong there
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 04:27 PM
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You'll see what I mean when you go to try to change them out.... I'll give 3-1 odds that the old ones won't come out without at least one LCA getting destroyed.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 04:41 PM
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i have never done it thats why i am asking but you are saying that it is pretty much an impossible task.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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Global West

Find out if the solid aluminum ones you were considering using have any kind of guarantee. Global West claims an average life of 120K miles. I'd consider this on a par with the stock or poly bushing lifespan. Also I really like that they are greasable. They have a grease fitting, so you can inject grease into it at every oil change time.

There is nothing wrong with boxed LCA's. That is what SLP uses. I had no problems removing my old stock LCA's. I DID have some problems installing the new ones. But it was nothing that some all-thread washers and nuts couldn't solve for me.

You can press out your old bushings yourself with a bench vise, cold chisel and hammer. Just use the cold chisel to collapse the core and push it out with a 1/2" drive socket against the core and a piece of tubing on the other. I used a piece of exhaust tubing I had on hand. If you have access to a hydraulic press it will simplify the job. Just make sure to support the opposite end of the LCA when you drive out the bushing. I unknowingly collapsed the LCA slightly and had to use the all-thread to spread it open again.

Lon
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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with a lifespan of 60k miles i would be very happy. the car is not driven 20k a year or anything. i am going to call them tommorrow about a warrenty or a life span estimation. the thing with the all thread is what i was i was thinking too
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