Ok, I heard about these relocation lca brackets. I know you have to weld them on but where can I get this done safely? I want to get lower control arms but I want to know if it's worth getting these LCA Relocation brackets?

 

you should be able to get them welded pretty easily, i think most exaust shops would be able to do it.

also if you really can't weld them in, BMR makes a set that is bolt in, but i would recomend weld ins if you can go that route.

 

Does anyone have these LCA Relocation Brackets?

 

Lot's of people have them. I have Spohn's. Do you have a question about them?

-Schultzy

 

ive seen those things.....and as good of a product as they are i cant help but wonder....if you are capable of welding them in why wouldnt you just fabricate the bracket yourself its not like its some marvel of aerospace engineering....i mean i could see it if you dont have the equipment

 

It's just like anything else:
If you can do it and do it correctly, it is just a matter of what your time is worth.

Good luck with whatever you choose-
S-D

I bought the Spohns. They fit well and were not a problem to install.

 

what excactly do these help with? whats the benifits? thanks

 

This product is a must for lowered vehicles to correct your suspension geometry. Lowering your vehicle alters the LCA angle putting the rear of the LCA higher than the front of the LCA, this causes massive wheel hop and traction loss.

NON-LOWERED vehicles will also see a dramatic increase in traction by lowering the rearward angle of the LCA with our relocation brackets. The lower mount holes are placed in the arc pattern of the OEM length LCA. Therefore allowing a non-lowered F-Body to drop the rear LCA angle and NOT require a longer than OEM LCA. All geometry is correctly maintained. The anti-squat performance is providing most users with a full .10 or better 60' reduction!


http://www.spohn.net/index.cfm?fusea...t&productid=11

 

I'm going to buy some aftermarket springs from the sophn site. Will that lower my car enough for me to want these relocation brackets? And if any one has any pics of the installation or the brackets installed, OR some before and after photos....that would be great.

 

Everyone mentions the correction of wheel hop- I'd like to add that they also correct understeer or push caused by lowering the car (especially with the softer springs most people run on street cars). This is one main reason why all lowered f-bodies are notorious for plowing into corners.

 

I am not sure how much lower your car will be with the new springs. You can run your car after lowering without the LCA relocation brackets but you will be better off with them. I ran mine for about 9 months on the Sportlines before putting the new LCA's and brackets on. Definately a noticeable difference.

-Schultzy

 

Hey Schultzy89GTA, it looks like those relocators hang kinda low, I don't know if it's the angle of the shot or not, but I was wondering if you had any ground clearance problems. I'm planing to get the lca's, relocators, and a panhard from Spohn, but I want to make sure there'll be no big problems.

 

Those are nice pics, thank you. If anyone else has any pics please show me

 

No worries.

The Relocation brackets do not hang down below the wheel so there are no clearance issues there. I have all three of those pieces and have had 0 problems. I couldn't find a pic. If you need one let me know and I can take one for you.

-Schultzy

 

You said you had no problems, but how are the pieces? Do they perform well? Also has your car been lowered? I was planing on getting the adjustable panhard because I plan on lowering my car 1-2". And, did you have any installation problems? Thanks

 

The pieces are fine - high quality - do what they are supposed to do.

Sportlines = 1.5" drop front / 1.3" drop rear - so yes my car is lowered.

No installation problems whatsoever.

-Schultzy

 

Hey guys, I want to lower my IROC soon with the Eibach Pro-Kit springs. I saw that BMR offers a kit on the Thunderacing website that consists of the springs, an adjustable panhard rod, and the LCA brackets. Now I've done my reading up on all this LCA crap and I think I understand it now. But this kit doesn't come with new LCAs themselves- just the LCA brackets. My question is if I could get away with attaching my stock LCAs to the new brackets-will they fit and all? Later I plan on upgrading to new LCAs, but now I'm just a little tight on $. Yeah, I just wanna know if the stockies will have the right length and all for the new brackets.
Oh, and with that adjustable panhard rod, how would I adjust that? What is the point of adjusting it, and how would I know how much it would need to be adjusted? Also, is BMR just as good of a brand as Spohn? I think I am going to go with Spohn for my SFCs, still thinking about Hotchkis though. Sorry I asked so much, but I appreciate it! -89IRO

 

89IRO,

I am not familiar with the BMR pieces but all of the LCA relocation brackets that I have seen will work with the stock LCA's. You should be able to use the stockers with no probs and upgrade when/if you want. This will still allow you to correct the geometry after lowering.

The adjustable panhard allows you to center your rear. When you lower the car it will push out a bit on the passenger side. As far as how to adjust it - it will be obvious when you get it. How much? You can take reference points underneath the car and then adjust to ensure that the rear is centered. IIRC, mine was off about 3/4 inch.

As far as the BMR quality compared to Spohns, I can't answer. I know that just about everyone with the Spohn pieces are happy with them. I believe BMR makes nice stuff too. Maybe someone with the BMR's will jump in for you.

Later,

-Schultzy

 

Here's a pic (again- the moderators are going to shoot me) of my BMR bolt-in units/also welded. They will work with any LCA's, even the stock units.

 

O.K., so when I lower the car, I will need the LCA relocation brakets. As far as the LCAs themselves, I will decide if I want those later. Now when you say that I will need the panhard bar to "center" the car, how is the car getting out of center just by lowering the car 1"? Is it getting out of center veritcally or horizontally? I am a little confused here. Also, for the LCAs and panhard bar, they make them in adjustable and non-adjustable, is it important to get everyhing adjustable? Thanks guys. -89IRO

 

Oh, and with the LCA relocation brackets, how do I know where to weld them- I mean don't they have to be like at a precise angle? Do the original brackets have to be completely cut off the axle, or do the new ones get welded to the orginals? Do these things come with directions? Also, can an exhaust shop do the welding? -89IRO

 

An exhaust shop can do the work, shop around your area and ask around for recommendations in the regional boards. All that's required is welding and some time to line things up.

Just to clarify, you don't need LCA brackets. You don't need an adjustable panhard rod, and you don't need new LCAs. You can lower a car without all of that. It will be perfectly streetable, and perfectly fine as a commuter. It only becomes a need (instead of a want) when you need to push it, such as a racer.

From what I understand, some LCA brackets have aligning tools/attachments/methods. I've heard the Global West brackets do, but I have no experience with them. I've heard the Spohn do not have such things, and the install can become tricky. That's all hearsay though, and not from hands on experience with those products. People have used a string to get the length of the LCAs, in order to get the appropriate angle with the brackets. You can also bolt things up, with the default size LCAs and then weld everything in. I don't know if this is true for all configurations.

AGood2.8 posted some stuff about the BMR bolt-in brackets (that he had welded). The bolt-in will line up the angles properly. I don't know if the weld-ins do.

 

Just checked on the global west brackets someone mentioned.

The "New Lower Price" is $98.99 Geez, what a bargain!
The BMR brackets with the shock support are only $11 more.

Global west had always been proud of their parts. But $34 more for the same thing? Am I missing something about the global west parts?

http://www.globalwest.net/camaro93.htm