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Is there such a thing as too much traction?

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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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Car: 1991 Camaro Z28 5.7 G92
Engine: L98 Tuned Port Injection
Transmission: TH700R4
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Is there such a thing as too much traction?

Here is my suspension setup:
Stock springs (211,000 miles on them)
No front sway bar (at the track only)
Fairly decent stock-type struts and shocks ( L98 IROC)
Lakewood LCA's
Torque Arm Bushing
Poly panhard rod bushing

bfg Drag Radials

I went to test out the whole setup and I had the Rear tires set at 22 psi and my car would hook nicely and lift the front of the cra up a lot, but sometimes it would lift it up then the motor wouldn't quite bog but it would slow it down some. It's like the felling you get when someone slams on the brakes, but in the opposite direction.

My car seems to get there faster when I get a little wheelspin then it hooks after I am moving. I will be tweaking it at the track on saturday but I was just wondering if no spin and a slight bog is better than some spin.

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If it bogs should I just launch it from a higher rpm? I am also trying to keep the tires aired up as much as possible for my trap speeds.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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As far as I know, it does sound like you should launch at a higher RPM...
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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Car: 1989 GTA Nighthawk
Engine: 389 CID TPI
Transmission: TCI 700R4
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You need to launch at a higher RPM or slip the clutch more to keep the engine at it's peak torque while launching. Bogging is bad, wheelspin is bad, the best is no wheelspin right on the edge of traction with the engine singing and the clutch smoking (Dust), that's when you will go the fastest.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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Car: 1991 Camaro Z28 5.7 G92
Engine: L98 Tuned Port Injection
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Axle/Gears: 3.23 Posi G80
Somtimes everything hooks too well. My tires grab, and my clutch doesn't slip. I dont' want to be launching at 5000+ but if that's what it takes then OK.
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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A larger pumpshot from your carb may help as well.
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 02:31 AM
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Every clutch slips when you make it slip, you have to learn not to dump it but to feather it, it takes a deft touch to get it right and when you do you'll know it. I think it's almost a lost art. I used to drag race motorcylcles and I could beat bikes with wheelie bars off the line because I could control the clutch so well, holding the front tire inches off the pavement. In a car you are looking for that perfect spot at the edge of traction with the engine at it's torque peak. When you find it, if you can find it and if you can hold it there by slipping the clutch until you can dump it then you will know it because you will be flying!
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