Just lowered my car...maybe just alittle too much : (
I don't know why, but that looks so mean with the primer all over the place, stock gray wheels, and the crazy drop. Makes me think race car for some reason. Is it actually dropped, or are the springs out?
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Re: Just lowered my car...maybe just alittle too much : (
Originally posted by crazy3rdgen
i can barely get my body under the car anymore
i can barely get my body under the car anymore
You must be skinny, I couldn't get under my car when it was at stock height!
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that looks so bad ***... how much of a drop is that or is it a drop at all or did u just take the springs out.
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
the camber on the rear wheel makes me think
the camber on the rear wheel makes me think
You can't get camber on a solid rear axle uless you torch and reweld it so.
Its dupped.
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Originally posted by crazy3rdgen
lol hm
lol hm
hey mr drifter put those pictures back NOW!!!!
please with a cherry on top
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Holy **** that car looks awesome. It looks bad *** with that hood. I think i have a new dream, airbags.
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reminds me of mine last year...
I deff want to bag mine after seeing jeff's on bags. always wanted em but never seen em on a nice 3rdgen. only trucks and old school rides.

I deff want to bag mine after seeing jeff's on bags. always wanted em but never seen em on a nice 3rdgen. only trucks and old school rides.

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Originally posted by ME Leigh
And i thought mine was low.
And i thought mine was low.
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Originally posted by vsixtoy
The "blue" cars springs are out of it in that picture. Its resting on the bumpstops. I would be imppossible for the front wheels to turn without hitting the fenders and causing damage- The ride would be teribble because the rear axle would make contact with the unibody unless the rear was cut and refabricted for axle travel clearence.
The "blue" cars springs are out of it in that picture. Its resting on the bumpstops. I would be imppossible for the front wheels to turn without hitting the fenders and causing damage- The ride would be teribble because the rear axle would make contact with the unibody unless the rear was cut and refabricted for axle travel clearence.
Also you can get it that low with the springs in
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Originally posted by flrtin1
It would not be impossible to have the front that low and still drive it and have a good ride!
Also you can get it that low with the springs in
It would not be impossible to have the front that low and still drive it and have a good ride!
Also you can get it that low with the springs in
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The K member is less then 1/2 inch of the ground there.
The rear is fine I dono WTF your talking about. Ive drove with it slamed like that befor. The ride sucked because It wasnt setup with the proper springs or shocks/struts.
So unless you have done it. Dont say It cant be done. I wouldnt do it again. it was just for ****s and gillgles.
The rear is fine I dono WTF your talking about. Ive drove with it slamed like that befor. The ride sucked because It wasnt setup with the proper springs or shocks/struts.
So unless you have done it. Dont say It cant be done. I wouldnt do it again. it was just for ****s and gillgles.
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
wish my exhasut wasn't so big so i could set mine lower....
wish my exhasut wasn't so big so i could set mine lower....
When I was gona stay n/A and not do a turbo motor I was gona do my Hooker SC L/T's and Dr. Gas X pipe and tube. No need with the turbo motor now. I'll prob just do the Oval tube to the back.
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LOL, mine has been this low for 19 yrs, little higher that yours was but when you get the hood, 4 people (5 now....
my wife keeps trying to tell me how that happens), tool box, floor jack, and luggage in it, its down there.
my wife keeps trying to tell me how that happens), tool box, floor jack, and luggage in it, its down there.
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Originally posted by flrtin1
LOL, mine has been this low for 19 yrs, little higher that yours was but when you get the hood, 4 people (5 now....
my wife keeps trying to tell me how that happens), tool box, floor jack, and luggage in it, its down there.
LOL, mine has been this low for 19 yrs, little higher that yours was but when you get the hood, 4 people (5 now....
my wife keeps trying to tell me how that happens), tool box, floor jack, and luggage in it, its down there.
Kandied has 18's on his so it just looks as low.
TPI383 has 15"Irocs and has about 2 1/2" front the 15" rim to the fender lip. Car is undrivable like that. I don't mean you can gentle cruise through a parking lot with a decent ride- anything resting on bumpstops can do that. Ride quality is considered at speed with normal freeway dips and bumps. You'd crash that car like that at freeway speed-might even a 30mph on many roads when you stuff that K-member into the ground and the rear walks around on you.
Good ride my foot.
Flirt1, my ride is as low as what you have. But I guarantee its a whole lot stiffer than yours also in order to maintain rideheight at speed without riding on the factory bumps (which are trimed down and reshaped I might add) but I'm not nearly as low as what the blue car is. You can not get lower than what I have and have any quality of ride. I can still however run turn 1 & 2 at Cailf Speedway at 123mph without grounding out, I'm that stiff through the high bank compression. The NASCARS this sunday were dropping to 141 apexing that same bank.
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Originally posted by TPl383
15inch IROC's .......lol......
15inch IROC's .......lol......
But your quote above leads me to believe that you think I am wrong about the existance of 15" IROC rims? Or is my assumption correct and you were confirming.
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My assumtion could be wrong and they could be 16''s, but I still guess so looking at the fendergap from the rim and the ground clearence gap.
No wonder you've been banned a few times for chewing peoples asses... It seems no matter how long I follow TGO and the suspension board, there is always SOMEONE to talk **** to you.
You would think that most of the people would have figured it out by now.
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First off vsixtoy you say:
and when I respond you come at me with
Seems to me you were the one making the bold statement!
Anyway we will use your "new" math and figure this out with measurements and pics as you requested
Now lets say my fender to rim clearance is oh....3 1/4" and you subtract ok 2" Then if those rims are 16" mine are 15" subtract 1/2" from that it would leave 3/4” and I am sure that there is more than that between the fender lip on rim on the blue car
now back to reality I would say my car sits 1/2" to 3/4" higher than the blue one. Now as I said when you put the hood on and put the tools in and 4 people it is pretty low
As far as ride, 19yrs ago they didn't have nice things to buy for the camaros like lowered springs/spindles or air ride (yes I think Kandied91z car is awesome). So can you get a nicer ride now yes, but driving the car for years..... 86 thru 92 12hrs round trip to Duqoin, 800 miles of the power tour this year, and 6hrs to Nauvoo and back last Sunday and considering I have spinal cord damage and a lot of jarring bothers me…. but the car ride does not, I would say it has a good ride
Now if you would like anymore proof let me know!

I would be impossible for the front wheels to turn without hitting the fenders and causing damage- The ride would be teribble because the rear axle would make contact with the unibody unless the rear was cut and refabricted for axle travel clearence.
Prove it, Because I can back what I say with pictures and measurements. You make a bold statement on a public forum, please prove it.
Anyway we will use your "new" math and figure this out with measurements and pics as you requested
Now lets say my fender to rim clearance is oh....3 1/4" and you subtract
Your a good two inches higher minimum than the blue car.
now back to reality I would say my car sits 1/2" to 3/4" higher than the blue one. Now as I said when you put the hood on and put the tools in and 4 people it is pretty low
As far as ride,
Good ride my foot.
Now if you would like anymore proof let me know!

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Originally posted by TPl383
yes they made 15inch iroc rims.
Its just funny you thought my rims were then. *** they are no wheres near IROC rims.
They are 91-92 Specific rims.
yes they made 15inch iroc rims.
Its just funny you thought my rims were then. *** they are no wheres near IROC rims.
They are 91-92 Specific rims.
However, you have the factory Camaro rims that followed the sequence of cars known as IROC. Its always been common practice to signify the factory aluminum Camaro sport rims even of the later years as IROCs just as the earlier ones are, People will know what is being refered to without a picture.
They went single line style, double linestyle, 91-92 style- Basically had GM keep the IROC name(wasn't their choice) the 91-92's were to be IROC's also. Its just an unsaid assumption.
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Flirt1, I measuresd my car. 16" rims fender to rim like you are showing your's measured I have 4 1/4". Now this is with a lightweight V6 car(aprox 200lbs lighter on the front suspension), 800+ lb front springs, and Koni yellows maxed out so this car can be hammered on without having the wheels hit the fenders. From fender lip to ground I have 24 7/8" and thiese springs have been in this car for 12 years.
Now with what you are telling me, you have 15" rims with a 3 1/4" distance gap. That puts you 1 1/2" lower than me if this is true. There is no way in hell that either 1) your figures are correct, Or two you have any kind of ride quality at all, especially if you have a V8 in it!
I have 2" travel EXACTLY before my 245/50-16's make contact with the inner fender and thats it. So you are telling me with yours sitting 1 1/2" lower than mine + possibly a V8 in it (need to connfirm this), put springs soft enough to give good ride, but not ground out IN THE 1/2" TRAVEL(Edit: Your second picture- the side shot was a redX the first time it loaded, couldn't see you had such dinky tires on the car- lets bump that travel figure up to about 1 1/2" max- I'm being generous with that figure, its most likely less. I don't what size or why you are running tires that small. So you have a little more travel to the fender, but how much to the K-member)you have from the ridehieght you are claiming- you must have about 2200lb front springs in there. Nice ride quality.
Should I even get into the bumpsteer problems you'd have fighting the steering wheel with the inversion angle on you lower A-Arms and tie rods at that ride height? And even greater problems with more suspension travel. Again, ride quality?
Ground clearance- You'd never get over a small speedbump, go up a driveway, or around an intersection gutter dip for that matter without severe scraping or even risk of getting stuck- ride quality?
I think I made my point- sorry to have to get sarcastic, but you asked for it.
Lastly, the turn radius and problem hitting the fender was directed towards the "bluecar" of TPI. You obviously even in the first picture are not hitting your sidewall from turning the wheel sitting "still" @ 70mph is another question. From the second picture, all I can say is, why the dinky tires and rims on a car that you claim to street drive alot? Thats setup for straight line drag and would have "again" a terrible ride quality.
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Kandied, I want to pay you a well deserved complement and say you are well out of you league having you car photographed with those 9 other cars. They should be embarrased to be sitting next to you. It looks that nice.
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Originally posted by flrtin1
you can get it that low with the springs in
you can get it that low with the springs in
Flirt1, you happen to have a picture showing the entire car from side veiw- meaning the entire front and rear? Curious if you have drag slicks on the back? and the overall stance of the car?
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All I have to say are you on something or is this what people are talking about
those tires are 215/65r15 which is what the car came with from the factory
thats right these were drag cars from GM 
so I guess you really know your stuff
From the second picture, all I can say is, why the dinky tires and rims on a car that you claim to street drive alot? Thats setup for straight line drag and would have "again" a terrible ride quality.
those tires are 215/65r15 which is what the car came with from the factory
thats right these were drag cars from GM 
so I guess you really know your stuff
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Flirt1, you happen to have a picture showing the entire car from side veiw- meaning the entire front and rear? Curious if you have drag slicks on the back? and the overall stance of the car?
go to hotrod.com power tour day four photo gallery, pictures one and two......but wait I can't drive this "drag car" on the street so I must not of done half of the power tour which by the way was on two lane not interstate
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lol, your killing me

now if you had some video of it being driven with the cow bell on it that would be priceless

now if you had some video of it being driven with the cow bell on it that would be priceless
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Originally posted by flrtin1
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All I have to say are you on something or is this what people are talking about
those tires are 215/65r15 which is what the car came with from the factory
thats right these were drag cars from GM 
so I guess you really know your stuff
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All I have to say are you on something or is this what people are talking about
those tires are 215/65r15 which is what the car came with from the factory
thats right these were drag cars from GM 
so I guess you really know your stuff
To all- here's what this guy did. proof is in his pictures:
Its a real picture don't get me wrong- no photoshop. But tell me why the hell you have to play games with everyone and pretend your car is that low when its not.
Your first picture (the one I duplicated when I quoted you) is the same exact height my car is (I was exactly correct on my first assumption). Next series of pictures you post- you purposely (to be some kind of know it all bigshot) have someone sit on your front end while you take the picture (cars one inch lower from this) How do I know- your next picture below it (if you magnify the screen- I have a large monitor and the magnifcation tools- your unfortune) your tape measure is reading exactly at 4" from rim to fender, the real height!
Next, if everyone looks real close, you will see he has let a significant amount of air out of his tire (hence why I thought at first they were about 24" or less in diameter) thus making the ground clearance next to the Pepsi bottle look minimal.
Was this all worth the attention- You've been exposed and have lost any credibility around these boards
Yours truely, Dean
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