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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Stock Wonderbar Vs. Spohn

I currently have a stock Iroc wonderbar installed on my 84 T/A. I was thinking of upgrading to the Spohn wonderbar.

The Spohn wonderbar seems to be twice as large in diameter as the stock piece.

Is it worth it? Anyone have any experience with this? Any noticable difference?

(My car currently has SFC's, STB, boxed LCA's, panhard bar, lowered, etc...)

Thanks for any help.
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Not worth it unless you're doing some hardcore steering maneuvers. Even then, I would think the stock wonderbar would hold up fine.

Think about this. Take the stock wonderbar off and try your damnedest to bend it with your bare hands. That's about how much pressure it undergoes. If it bends, well you know what to buy.
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Hehe, thanks I guess I was just looking for an excuse to spend some $.
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Does the GTA has a stock wonder bar too?
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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No. IROC's only.

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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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I guess I'll have to buy one then. Thanks
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by JamesC
No. IROC's only.

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And 1lE's... lol I know if a 92 TA 1LE that has it..
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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Anything is possible with GM, but I've never heard of any car, other than IROC's, with the wonderbar.

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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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Go with the TDS one. Bolts right in with no modifications.

The Spohn and BMR ones I had needed one hole elongated for them to work.
We put the TDS one on in just a couple of minutes.
btw, I am running the GM unit on my 88 Formula and it works great.
New from the dealer was $23 when they still had them.
I picked up 2 from the junkyards for $5 each.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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Spohn bar is very thick and strong. However, dual fan cars have problems getting them to fit.
I have a Spohn bar for sale.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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why are you selling? Is it so hard to install on cars with the dual-fan set-up? Any ideas of why it was not installed in the GTAs?

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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by Firebreather
why are you selling? Is it so hard to install on cars with the dual-fan set-up? Any ideas of why it was not installed in the GTAs?
Just a guess, but I think they were on the IROC's due to the cars being raced in the IROC racing series.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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I'm selling because:
I went to a junk yard and there is a 86 Firebird(single fan) with Spohn sticker on it...yeeeesssss.
I check the chassi and it had the Spohn wonder bar and some other goodies. Although I already have the stock bar, I thought this was better.
Once I got it home, it hit the lower dual fan mounts big time(search).

This seems to be an IROC only item, could be because of the racing, better engineers at the Camaro plant...I don't know
Its still for sale
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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how much to 21153
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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I think it is a IROC only, but I think I have heard of a 1991 350 Z28 with one. Might have been hear-say, though. With the single fan, Spohn is in easy (well, it was hard with no jack). The duals are tricky. A friend of mine has the dual fan Z28 and had a TDS. The Spohn is a little beefier, though.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Just bought my second Global West unit:

Part# TS-14 ---- Price $46.00

It is pictured on their site http://www.globalwest.net between the two SFCs.
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