weld on vs bolt on
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I bought bolt on SFCs and had them welded on. Either ones you get, have them welded on. If you just bolt them in, the bolt holes can get elongated and allow movement.
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i like the bolt-ins since you can install them at home then take them somewhere to be welded up, should decrease the labor rate.
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So you spend time to bolt them in?? Or just buy the weld in and not have to "bolt them in" then weld them in anyway. The welding will happen anyway so why waste your time to bolt them in......taking out the bolts are a peice of cake anyway?? Just saying.....
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Just lets you do most of the install yourself if you dont have the means to weld
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If you have the ability to weld then you wouldn't be addressing the original poster who was asking. Typically the bolt-in subframes have more bracketry as well that can be welded up to the floorpan also. For the average DIY'er bolting it in at home and taking it somewhere to be welded is cheaper than just having the weld on's added.
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that sounds like a good idea, bolting them in and having them welded. when places weld them in, do they check to make sure everything is straight, like if the frame is off?
I'm planning on getting a set sometime as I have a T-top that leaks cold air from outside on corners and rattles in the cold (and I just wanted to stiffen up the ride a bit). the weatherstripping doesn't look top notch (replacing that too) but sometimes I wonder if my car is bent. I don't want somebody to weld my car in a bent position
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...deRearEdge.jpg
as compared to
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...0Pics/Pass.jpg
P.S. my interior doesn't look as bad as those pics suggest
I'm planning on getting a set sometime as I have a T-top that leaks cold air from outside on corners and rattles in the cold (and I just wanted to stiffen up the ride a bit). the weatherstripping doesn't look top notch (replacing that too) but sometimes I wonder if my car is bent. I don't want somebody to weld my car in a bent position
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...deRearEdge.jpg
as compared to
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...0Pics/Pass.jpg
P.S. my interior doesn't look as bad as those pics suggest
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If you suspect that the frame is off take it to a competent body shop and have it put on a frame machine, it’s the only way to know for sure. Some monkey welding subframe connectors for $1-200 won’t be taking the time to do this or usually even have the machine to do it.
Re: weld on vs bolt on
If you use bolt ons with the intention of having them welded after you install, Grind to bare metal where all the welding will be done. Prime with weld thru primer then install. Otherwise they will most likely have to remove them to get a good clean surface to weld to anyhow. Defeats the purpose of saving your welding guy labor.
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